Posted on 11/07/2005 11:46:41 PM PST by BillyBoy
My Fellow FReepers,
As it now past midnight (well at least for those of us in Central Standard Time) and I did a general search and couldn't find a single thread dedicated to election 2005, I have taken the liberty of creating one.
THIS is the place to post all your updates and discussions on '05 races around the country. From the Boston Mayoral Race to the fight for Virginia Attorney General, keep the adrenaline flowing here.
Will the GOP make a midterm gubernatorial comeback after suffering through the 2001 "mistakes" of McGreeley and Mark Warner? Will Ahnuld, the CA Dummycrats, or independent minded conservatives emerge triumph in California's latest (but not greatest!) "special election"? Will the liberal incumbent crush his equally liberal challenger in New York? And do conservatives even care?
Let's get the discussion rolling folks. You heard it here first!
That's good.
Hey hey hey, wait a minute! Don't you know that Bush isn't popular?! HEY EVERYBODY! BUSH HAS LOW APPROVAL RATINGS! I CAN'T BELIEVE NOBODY ON THIS THREAD HAS POINTED THIS OUT YET! ;)
-Dan
What makes you think low turnout affects vote totals? This is NJ. You've heard of Miracle on 34th Street, haven't you heard of Election Night on Broad St?
Greetings from a fellow Tar Heel, Smooth. In the South, it's a matter of "getting over the hump." There are still a substantial number of otherwise sane (which is to say conservative) North Carolinians who cling to their Dem party registration because they believe that races are decided in Dem primaries.
Once that ceases to be true (and to an increasing extent, it will), you'll see a "tipping point." It has happened in SC (which we fondly refer to as "Baja Carolina"), and it's only a matter of time before it happens in NC and VA.
I agree with your posts.
Bush's favorability went down due to the hurricane mania, high gas prices, and the Miers pick.
Hurricanes are almost behind us, gas prices are coming down, and he picked a good judge in Alito.
I expect his favorability to be in the upper 40's by year end.
Losing tonight is good because it will focus the GOP on returning to conservative fundamentals.
Based on results last year, a good chunk of Kerry voters also voted in favor of gay marriage bans...in almost every state, the percentage that voted for the bans far exceeded the Bush vote...
I don't think it matters much either. It is still probably higher than most second term presidents. Bush is not Clinton. He doesn't govern by polls. I'm sure they are a little bothered by them, but they won't change their methods of governence just to raise poll numbers.
New Jersey has been a lost cause since the early nineties. But we can still dream!
Bush polls don't need to be discounted. They're patently bogus on their face. Economy roaring on, 5.0% unemployment, 8,000 jobs lost because of Katrina NOT 35,000, GDP up 3.8%, above 3.2% estimates, new housing market STILL booming, gas prices down over a buck the past month, wilson proved day by day to be more and more of a hack and a fraud. Pentagon announcing last week 1.8 tons of enriched yellow cake uranium out of Iraq last year. General Valalley on the record that wilson said his wife by name worked at the "Agency". On and on and on. The idea that polls are against him given ALL that shows how rigged the sampling of the polls was. NO President is unpopular when there is that much good news across the board in the country.
I think the President has to stop misstepping. That alone will get him a few points, and every point counts.
The GOP is reunited now, especially since Alito is on board. That's a good start. Dubya needs to really get on his game - he needs to communicate with the American people better (its almost shocking how little he has improved in 5 years). 3-4+ dead soldiers a day has to stop, too. The August vacation in Crawford makes him look out of touch and aloof: it hurt him this year.
Basically he needs to smarten up.
Trust me, Travis County is about as far left as one can get.
No report from Loudon County either. Kilgore had hoped to do well. He's behind in Prince William though. Not a good sign.
It is quite clear to me that Kaine has won.
NO . . . Your earlier diatribes focussed on the meaning of this race vis a vis the President and the 2006 elections . . . My 'historical perspective' clearly indicates that the VA gubernatorial election MEANS NOTHING relative to political realities beyond the borders of VA!!!
BTW: Generic national polls of 'adults' are and will continue to be GROSSLY manipulated by agenda driven pollsters.
Conversely, election polling, e.g., the VA governor's race, are and will continue to be MUCH more accurate for one very simple reason: The pollsters know their predictions will be evaluated against an definitive, objective outcome -- no such measure will ever again exist for President Bush and the pollsters/MSM/DNC know this better than anyone else!!!
Even compared to San Francisco? Seattle? Portland OR? New York? Boston?
It shows that the polls were right in those races.
As are the polls showing low approval for Dubya & the GOP.
dewey defeats truman
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