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I was wrong; so please join me in supporting Harriet Miers.

Posted on 10/09/2005 3:28:25 PM PDT by Pukin Dog

I decided to end my self-imposed exile from posting due to information that I received this past weekend from ‘a little birdie’ in Washington, which I subsequently had confirmed by another ‘insider’ if you can call him that.

You know I won’t tell, so don’t bother asking me for names, links, or further information. I trust these individuals, and have received accurate information from them before and shared it here on Free Republic. Of course, all are free to either accept or reject what I am about to share, but if you know anything about the Dog, I don’t change my mind often, and my only goal is to pass on information that can help support the Conservative agenda.

Issue 1.

Information was shared with me on Saturday, which described in no uncertain terms that Harriet Miers stands as the only nominee on Bush’s list which has any chance of confirmation by the Senate Judiciary Committee. The reasons for this are numerous, and would be embarrassing to the Conservative movement should one or many of the ‘stars’ who we hoped Bush would select be shot down in Committee, which again, if true, would be a certainty.

More than one of the persons we might have wanted made it clear to the President that they would not accept his nomination if selected. You can draw your own conclusions as to why, but the only hint I will provide is that data mining works too damn well these days. What we saw back when Clarence Thomas was nominated would seem like a walk in the park, compared to what would be done to some of our most popular jurists.

Our Democrat opponents have been quite busy, especially after John Roberts embarrassed them, searching for any information that would allow an open personal attack on a nominee. Sadly, many of the folks we wanted badly would have had their lives destroyed had they attempted confirmation to the bench, and wisely declined. There is no one among us who has not done (or had a family member do) things that we either regret, or would rather keep to ourselves. Because none of us are perfect, it is possible that had one of our choices been selected, we might have lived to regret that day for a very long time.

Issue 2.

Arlen Specter is in my opinion, a traitor to the Conservative movement. He has made it clear to the White House that he is determined to protect his legacy, by NOT supporting any name among those who might make it possible to overturn Rowe V. Wade. What that means, is that had Bush put up someone who might make us proud, Specter reneged on a PROMISE to support Bush’s judicial nominees in return for his, (and especially Rick Santorum’s) support for his re-election. This promise was made when there was strong consideration for removing Specter’s pending chairmanship in favor of John Coryn, or an extension to the term of Orrin Hatch.

The removal of Specter from the Chairmanship would have been disastrous, because he would have remained a committee member, and would have sided with Democrats against the President’s selections out of spite. So, why not simply remove Specter from the committee? That would have been really bad PR, considering Specter’s health issues at the time these decisions were being made.

One could argue that it might have been best to send up nominee after nominee, even if eventually defeated, but remember that O’Conner is only around hoping for a quick confirmation so that she can be with her ill husband. Bush was under the gun to come up with a confirmable candidate, or risk a Supreme Court not running at full strength as important rulings came under review.

I am told that Arlen Specter has gone back on every single promise he made when his chairmanship was still a question, and feels untouchable now that he is ill, because any punitive measures taken against him would be seen as ‘less than compassionate’ by the MSM and Democrats, who admittedly would have a field day, were Specter punished for his duplicity. The sad thing is that after “Scottish Law” or even the “Magic Bullet theory” that some think that anything that Arlen Specter says can be trusted. Sure, he supported Clarence Thomas, but does anyone believe that Specter would still be a Senator if he had not?

Issue 3.

Let’s face it; our Republican Senate is an embarrassment. From the weakness of Frist, to the petulance of the dude who ‘thinks he is leader’ McCain, down to his McCainiac compadre Lindsey (tinker-bell) Graham, to the nut from Mississippi who thinks he can actually get his leadership position back by actively rebelling against the President, we aint looking to good at all.

Our Republican Senate has as members at least 7 Democrats who could have never gotten elected as Democrats, who nonetheless support the Democrat agenda whenever they can get away with it, which unfortunately due to the weakness of Frist, is all too often. I find myself wishing Tom Delay would run for the Senate against Hutchinson, just so we can have someone in the Senate not afraid to break some heads to get things done. Why can’t we have a Republican Lyndon Johnson when we need one?

Because our Republican Senate is so weak, President Bush cannot rely on them for much. He could not have gotten majority support in this current Senate for any judicial nominee that would have made us proud. The usual suspects have made it clear to the President that any nominee who would have put their re-election prospects at risk would vote against that nominee. The bottom line, is that the Republican Senate is made up of too many who want the job, but not the work. The only job they see before them is that of getting re-elected to another six year term.

Luttig, McConnell, JRB, Owen, Alito, or anyone else you want to name, would have been defeated, and probably defeated in committee, in order to save other Senators from having to vote them down on the floor. Of this, I am now convinced. Only two names were considered allowable for Senate confirmation; Miers and Gonzales. When Bush met with Senators, he was reportedly told that these two names were the only ones that stood a chance to be confirmed, but Gonzales would face pointed questions about Abu Gharab, Gitmo, and the administration’s policy on torture. It would have been ugly, but he would have been confirmed against the added damage done by dejected a dejected conservative base, and liberal attacks on the President’s agenda. There would have also had to be a new search for an Attorney General, which would have been just as ugly.

Had Bush put up selections that would have been defeated, the chorus of ‘Lame Duck’ chanting coming out of Washington would have drowned out the President’s agenda. A defeat in the Senate would have also signaled to Congress that they were on their own, and no longer had to back up, support, or even listen to President Bush. They would have been free to play the political-calculation game that the Democrats have been playing for 6 years; avoiding tough votes that would be used against them in a future campaign.

So, what’s the bottom line?

The bottom line is that Bush did his best to give us what we want, in a way that will not hurt the prospects of the Conservative agenda. The primary thing that must be considered, is that the Congress can NEVER be put back in Democrat hands, for that would destroy all progress made up to now. Our day will come, but this aint it. If we had a Republican Senate made up of real patriots without the odd liberal in Republican clothing, things would be a lot better.

In Miers, Bush has clearly taken what he can get, and our best hope now is for another vacancy on the court before this administration’s term is up. The current makeup of the Congress will just not allow our agenda to be passed at this time without major sacrifices and pragmatic thinking to overcome the inherit weakness of having traitors in our midst.

It appears to me that Harriet Miers is the best CONFIRMABLE candidate for the Supreme Court at this time. This fact is not the fault of the President. Indeed it is OUR fault. It is us who have supported less than the best candidates for the Senate. We are responsible for Chaffee, Snowe, McCain, Graham, Lott, Frist and other persons of questionable courage. We should not be blaming Bush for our own votes. We selected the people that the President must rely upon to move his agenda forward. If they are losers, then he loses too.

Though they literally suck, we are stuck with these people because we must keep the majority to keep our agenda alive. There have been worse moments for us, but none would be worse than than the day we lose the Senate our House majorities. I now believe that although Bush disapointed many of us, that he did the very best he could do without destroying our momentum.

Yes, like Rush Limbaugh said, it was a choice made from weakness.

But the thing to remember, is that it was not Bush’s weakness, but our own, and that of the people we have elected to Congress that made this happen. Had they been strong, Bush could have selected anyone we wanted.

Because of what I now know about how and why Harriet Miers was selected, I withdraw my earlier statements against her, my statements suggesting anything less than my strong support of the President, and finally, my self imposed exile from Free Republic.

Pukin Dog is back, so deal with it.


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To: maryz
Democrats use money.

Most Democrats cant raise money at all, so the party relies on a few heavy hitters like Hillary to raise funds. In return, they do what she wants, knowing she'll cut them off if they don't.
541 posted on 10/09/2005 6:13:36 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog
This "Senate" problem will go away when a few choice Senators start paying the price at the ballot box. Unfortunately for the President, he brought this on himself when he supported Specter early and often.

Sometimes keeping your friends closer means they have the opportunity to get the knife in good and deep.

542 posted on 10/09/2005 6:14:27 PM PDT by Republic of Texas
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To: Wolfgang_Blitzkrieg
So...I'm hearing win-win here? ; )
543 posted on 10/09/2005 6:14:43 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: Pukin Dog

ping


544 posted on 10/09/2005 6:15:43 PM PDT by TSchmereL ("Trust but verify.")
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To: Pukin Dog
Hmmmm, worth thinking about:

The bottom line, is that the Republican Senate is made up of too many who want the job, but not the work...

The primary thing that must be considered, is that the Congress can NEVER be put back in Democrat hands, for that would destroy all progress made up to now. Our day will come, but this aint it. If we had a Republican Senate made up of real patriots without the odd liberal in Republican clothing, things would be a lot better.

545 posted on 10/09/2005 6:16:16 PM PDT by GOPJ (The enemy is never tired, never sated, never content with yesterday's brutality. -- President Bush)
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To: Grandma Pam
I missed all the shows because I went fishing. I cant say I understand Bush's thinking either, but I have decided to go on the fact that all the other nominees were great people. He had the stones to renominate those who were filibustered, so that says something.
546 posted on 10/09/2005 6:16:43 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Stevens and Ginsberg will not retire while Bush is in office, for the obvious reasons of succession. So I guess this is the start of a death watch.


547 posted on 10/09/2005 6:16:45 PM PDT by Republic of Texas
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To: Congressman Billybob

Congressman Billybob,

Nice to see (OK, read) you here.


548 posted on 10/09/2005 6:16:52 PM PDT by Bush 100 Percent
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To: Pukin Dog
I think this is basically what Thomas Sowell opined a couple of days ago.

BTW...Owen had her name withdrawn from consideration for anybody interested. I keep seeing her name mentioned in posts and she was never in the running.

549 posted on 10/09/2005 6:16:55 PM PDT by moondoggie
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To: Pukin Dog
Yes, like Rush Limbaugh said, it was a choice made from weakness. But the thing to remember, is that it was not Bush’s weakness, but our own, and that of the people we have elected to Congress that made this happen.

BULL. Specter is Bush's 100% fault. No sympathy from me. Screw them both.

550 posted on 10/09/2005 6:17:34 PM PDT by Sloth (We cannot defeat foreign enemies of the Constitution if we yield to the domestic ones.)
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To: Miss Marple
Well, the President could have stood up and said "I can't get Janice Rogers Brown because of Snowe, Chaffee, Collins, Hagel, McCain, Specter, etc."

And then, how much support would he get on other legislation from those people in the next three years?

The president is not the only GOP organ of speech, the GOP claims to control the Senate and House.

Is a 60 vote hurdle Constitutional? I think it's not. And it irks me that the President ratifies the hurdle.

And the comment that legislation is attached to nomination shows not only a gross disregard for BASIC balance of power issues embodied in the Constitution, but also a childish "tit-for-tat" mentality.

I wish the GOP would just grow up and act like real adults in this. It has shown itself capable of grown up advocacy -- see conduct of the the Iraq War and handling of the Katrina payout.

As to your initial hypo, the President needn't name names. All he has to do is assert that the candidates are entitled to an up or down vote, and "drop the bomb" in the Senate. As it is, the GOP is admitting it is not competenent to dispose of the issue that supermajority vote on executive nominations is unconstitutinal.

551 posted on 10/09/2005 6:17:50 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Congressman Billybob
LOL. Oh man...I am sorry! Whew.

BTW, I've never had the opportunity to run into you since I decloaked, but I've appreciated your posts for many years—from my safe and secure lurkerdom.

It's nice to officially bump into you.
552 posted on 10/09/2005 6:18:16 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: A.Hun; All
What a good post.

My family knows DeWine, well, and all of us are alarmed and angry at his cowardice and appeasement practices.

I admire Senators who back their President and care more about their constituents than what the press will say or distort. What is going on? Where is the senate leadership?

553 posted on 10/09/2005 6:18:27 PM PDT by Republic (Michael Schiavo LIED about having a college degree on his guardianship application,)
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To: Soul Seeker
If the W.H. is listening, then listen to this. The Senate weasels need to be exposed to the people.

If the W.H. knows Miers to be an originalist, then why should he smoke out the weasels?

(He should only do that when he has no other choice.)

554 posted on 10/09/2005 6:19:17 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: TheHound
What is a conservative?

There is no definite definition for the term. Exccept as subscribing to status quo, old fashioned, etc.

556 posted on 10/09/2005 6:20:45 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Congressman Billybob
Meantime, the ability of the Court to make bad, 5-4 decisions, will be gone.

Excellent point! As opposed to now, when the Dems can delay as long as they want since O'Connor offered to stay until her replacement is confirmed.

557 posted on 10/09/2005 6:21:29 PM PDT by maryz
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To: MojoWire
This post makes a lot of sense, and most of the information provided in it is very logical and likely true. Man, what a frustrating situation. As someone from Pennsylvania, I still have a bitter taste in my mouth because of Spector's re-election in 2004. Things like this are the reason I would never survive in politics. It would be too tempting to rat out all the wimps, and thus lose support from the party bosses.

That's how I feel. We (the conservatives) have worked our butts off and have accomplished huge things in electing a R Senate, House, and President. It couldn't have happened without us. And still, we got little or nothing, except to slow down the inexorable leftward drift of the country for a few years--in fact, in spending and entitlements, our 'conservative' representatives turned on us.

I'm sick of being the R's embarassing second cousin. Yet the alternative--a swift descent into Hell under Hillary the Evil or some Howard Dean style lunatic--is even more odious. And that is what the R establishment counts on to keep us in line.

So I will hold my nose and support this nomination. I will organize my butt off in 2006 and hope that someday, we will reach an actual turning point instead of being able, at most, to just apply the brakes lightly.

558 posted on 10/09/2005 6:22:04 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: pollyannaish
Uh, if the rapture is two years away, doesn't that mean we won't need an extended warranty on Meirs?

LOL! You've had some good posts on this thread, but this one is utterly superb!

559 posted on 10/09/2005 6:23:04 PM PDT by maryz
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