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I was wrong; so please join me in supporting Harriet Miers.

Posted on 10/09/2005 3:28:25 PM PDT by Pukin Dog

I decided to end my self-imposed exile from posting due to information that I received this past weekend from ‘a little birdie’ in Washington, which I subsequently had confirmed by another ‘insider’ if you can call him that.

You know I won’t tell, so don’t bother asking me for names, links, or further information. I trust these individuals, and have received accurate information from them before and shared it here on Free Republic. Of course, all are free to either accept or reject what I am about to share, but if you know anything about the Dog, I don’t change my mind often, and my only goal is to pass on information that can help support the Conservative agenda.

Issue 1.

Information was shared with me on Saturday, which described in no uncertain terms that Harriet Miers stands as the only nominee on Bush’s list which has any chance of confirmation by the Senate Judiciary Committee. The reasons for this are numerous, and would be embarrassing to the Conservative movement should one or many of the ‘stars’ who we hoped Bush would select be shot down in Committee, which again, if true, would be a certainty.

More than one of the persons we might have wanted made it clear to the President that they would not accept his nomination if selected. You can draw your own conclusions as to why, but the only hint I will provide is that data mining works too damn well these days. What we saw back when Clarence Thomas was nominated would seem like a walk in the park, compared to what would be done to some of our most popular jurists.

Our Democrat opponents have been quite busy, especially after John Roberts embarrassed them, searching for any information that would allow an open personal attack on a nominee. Sadly, many of the folks we wanted badly would have had their lives destroyed had they attempted confirmation to the bench, and wisely declined. There is no one among us who has not done (or had a family member do) things that we either regret, or would rather keep to ourselves. Because none of us are perfect, it is possible that had one of our choices been selected, we might have lived to regret that day for a very long time.

Issue 2.

Arlen Specter is in my opinion, a traitor to the Conservative movement. He has made it clear to the White House that he is determined to protect his legacy, by NOT supporting any name among those who might make it possible to overturn Rowe V. Wade. What that means, is that had Bush put up someone who might make us proud, Specter reneged on a PROMISE to support Bush’s judicial nominees in return for his, (and especially Rick Santorum’s) support for his re-election. This promise was made when there was strong consideration for removing Specter’s pending chairmanship in favor of John Coryn, or an extension to the term of Orrin Hatch.

The removal of Specter from the Chairmanship would have been disastrous, because he would have remained a committee member, and would have sided with Democrats against the President’s selections out of spite. So, why not simply remove Specter from the committee? That would have been really bad PR, considering Specter’s health issues at the time these decisions were being made.

One could argue that it might have been best to send up nominee after nominee, even if eventually defeated, but remember that O’Conner is only around hoping for a quick confirmation so that she can be with her ill husband. Bush was under the gun to come up with a confirmable candidate, or risk a Supreme Court not running at full strength as important rulings came under review.

I am told that Arlen Specter has gone back on every single promise he made when his chairmanship was still a question, and feels untouchable now that he is ill, because any punitive measures taken against him would be seen as ‘less than compassionate’ by the MSM and Democrats, who admittedly would have a field day, were Specter punished for his duplicity. The sad thing is that after “Scottish Law” or even the “Magic Bullet theory” that some think that anything that Arlen Specter says can be trusted. Sure, he supported Clarence Thomas, but does anyone believe that Specter would still be a Senator if he had not?

Issue 3.

Let’s face it; our Republican Senate is an embarrassment. From the weakness of Frist, to the petulance of the dude who ‘thinks he is leader’ McCain, down to his McCainiac compadre Lindsey (tinker-bell) Graham, to the nut from Mississippi who thinks he can actually get his leadership position back by actively rebelling against the President, we aint looking to good at all.

Our Republican Senate has as members at least 7 Democrats who could have never gotten elected as Democrats, who nonetheless support the Democrat agenda whenever they can get away with it, which unfortunately due to the weakness of Frist, is all too often. I find myself wishing Tom Delay would run for the Senate against Hutchinson, just so we can have someone in the Senate not afraid to break some heads to get things done. Why can’t we have a Republican Lyndon Johnson when we need one?

Because our Republican Senate is so weak, President Bush cannot rely on them for much. He could not have gotten majority support in this current Senate for any judicial nominee that would have made us proud. The usual suspects have made it clear to the President that any nominee who would have put their re-election prospects at risk would vote against that nominee. The bottom line, is that the Republican Senate is made up of too many who want the job, but not the work. The only job they see before them is that of getting re-elected to another six year term.

Luttig, McConnell, JRB, Owen, Alito, or anyone else you want to name, would have been defeated, and probably defeated in committee, in order to save other Senators from having to vote them down on the floor. Of this, I am now convinced. Only two names were considered allowable for Senate confirmation; Miers and Gonzales. When Bush met with Senators, he was reportedly told that these two names were the only ones that stood a chance to be confirmed, but Gonzales would face pointed questions about Abu Gharab, Gitmo, and the administration’s policy on torture. It would have been ugly, but he would have been confirmed against the added damage done by dejected a dejected conservative base, and liberal attacks on the President’s agenda. There would have also had to be a new search for an Attorney General, which would have been just as ugly.

Had Bush put up selections that would have been defeated, the chorus of ‘Lame Duck’ chanting coming out of Washington would have drowned out the President’s agenda. A defeat in the Senate would have also signaled to Congress that they were on their own, and no longer had to back up, support, or even listen to President Bush. They would have been free to play the political-calculation game that the Democrats have been playing for 6 years; avoiding tough votes that would be used against them in a future campaign.

So, what’s the bottom line?

The bottom line is that Bush did his best to give us what we want, in a way that will not hurt the prospects of the Conservative agenda. The primary thing that must be considered, is that the Congress can NEVER be put back in Democrat hands, for that would destroy all progress made up to now. Our day will come, but this aint it. If we had a Republican Senate made up of real patriots without the odd liberal in Republican clothing, things would be a lot better.

In Miers, Bush has clearly taken what he can get, and our best hope now is for another vacancy on the court before this administration’s term is up. The current makeup of the Congress will just not allow our agenda to be passed at this time without major sacrifices and pragmatic thinking to overcome the inherit weakness of having traitors in our midst.

It appears to me that Harriet Miers is the best CONFIRMABLE candidate for the Supreme Court at this time. This fact is not the fault of the President. Indeed it is OUR fault. It is us who have supported less than the best candidates for the Senate. We are responsible for Chaffee, Snowe, McCain, Graham, Lott, Frist and other persons of questionable courage. We should not be blaming Bush for our own votes. We selected the people that the President must rely upon to move his agenda forward. If they are losers, then he loses too.

Though they literally suck, we are stuck with these people because we must keep the majority to keep our agenda alive. There have been worse moments for us, but none would be worse than than the day we lose the Senate our House majorities. I now believe that although Bush disapointed many of us, that he did the very best he could do without destroying our momentum.

Yes, like Rush Limbaugh said, it was a choice made from weakness.

But the thing to remember, is that it was not Bush’s weakness, but our own, and that of the people we have elected to Congress that made this happen. Had they been strong, Bush could have selected anyone we wanted.

Because of what I now know about how and why Harriet Miers was selected, I withdraw my earlier statements against her, my statements suggesting anything less than my strong support of the President, and finally, my self imposed exile from Free Republic.

Pukin Dog is back, so deal with it.


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To: Pukin Dog

WTF? You are?


521 posted on 10/09/2005 6:00:05 PM PDT by dakine
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To: bitt

yeah, I guess I was wrong...he's just a regular old innocent bystander, not a drama queen at all.


522 posted on 10/09/2005 6:00:21 PM PDT by flashbunny (Sorry, but I'm allergic to KoolAid.)
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To: Republic
The Republican Senate is worse than you can imagine. Half those jerks are sure that they should be President, since they are obviously smarter than Bush. The problem with being a Senator, is that so many people are willing to kiss their asses, they start believing what they are told. I'd bet that John McCain sleeps under sheets that have "Maverick" printed on them. Hell, Lindsey Graham probably has the same sheets too.
523 posted on 10/09/2005 6:00:29 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog; Alberta's Child
You deserve a double welcome back: One for returning to FR, and the other for supporting Harriet Miers.

Please, add me to your ping list.


524 posted on 10/09/2005 6:00:39 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: bitt
Alternately leaving and returning is a rope-a-dopus

Dude, I'm using that. LOL.

525 posted on 10/09/2005 6:01:45 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Wolfgang_Blitzkrieg
Uh, if the rapture is two years away, doesn't that mean we won't need an extended warranty on Meirs?

BTW...I'm of the second coming school theologically speaking. But either way, with only two years to go, let's forget the bet and just go for it. ; )
526 posted on 10/09/2005 6:02:18 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: Pukin Dog
But you are assuming that Specter lets the nominee out of committee. He doesn't. His no vote would kill the nomination, and I don't care how much he said he would let Bush's picks get to the floor. I'm told he lied, and I believe it.

If true, then the blame still lies with this president, who was the deciding factor in Specter's primary win.

527 posted on 10/09/2005 6:03:10 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: Pukin Dog
I'd bet that John McCain sleeps under sheets that have "Maverick" printed on them. Hell, Lindsey Graham probably has the same sheets too.

My bet is McCain's king size sheets are big enough for both of them.

528 posted on 10/09/2005 6:03:39 PM PDT by Leroy S. Mort
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To: Pukin Dog

Pukin, I haven't been here long enough here to know you well, but from what I did see, you would have been missed. Thanks for the post.

IMHO it helps show what every conservative knows in his heart.

This situation is John McCain and his band of 14 rat b*stards fault. He single handedly stopped the golden opportunity to empanel known conservative judges. I firmly believe GWB had no real choice but to go to Mier, and she had the stones to accept the nomination.

Why so many are livid at Bush, when McCain destroyed the chance to end the filibusters and let conservative judges be nominated is beyond me.

To my everlasting shame, I voted for Lindsey Graham. He is gonna be the first one term Senator from South Carolina since the depression!

The awful trashing that Bush has endured, IMO for a situation he did not create, is a travesty.

Please add my name to your ping list.


529 posted on 10/09/2005 6:05:46 PM PDT by A.Hun
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To: Pukin Dog

I was wondering if some of the more favored were reluctant to go through an even worse process than they probably endured for their present positions.


530 posted on 10/09/2005 6:06:32 PM PDT by skr (Shopping for a tagline that fits or a fitting tagline...whichever I find first.)
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To: Pukin Dog

Good thoughts. I'm on the fence about Meirs, myself. I just wish Bush hadn't described her as the best choice. I know he HAD to, but...

And as for those giving you grief on your return - I assume you know the words to the song, Sammy Small?


531 posted on 10/09/2005 6:07:15 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: penowa
Once Casey has to actually say anything, Santorum will improve his numbers because Casey could never be mistaken for his dad once he opens his mouth,

Well, thanks for that info anyway. (Does Casey fils have the support of whatever PA calls its machine? I mean, to the extent that it would make a huge difference?)

533 posted on 10/09/2005 6:09:30 PM PDT by maryz
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To: A.Hun
and she had the stones to accept the nomination

That says something important about the nominee right there.

Not a single one of us, unless they have been through this themselves, can imagine what she is about to face.

I think there are very few of us who would be willing to subject ourselves to potential personal ruin and embarrassment, just for a job.

535 posted on 10/09/2005 6:10:34 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: Cboldt

What is a conservative?


536 posted on 10/09/2005 6:11:22 PM PDT by TheHound (You would be paranoid too - if everyone was out to get you.)
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To: Soul Seeker
What is the W.H. going to do to keep them on the ranch so that doesn't happen?

Sorry if I'm boring, but I'm asking again: What do the Dems do to enforce party discipline? Do they keep a couple of guys who will shoot off kneecaps if anyone steps out of line? They're doing something!

537 posted on 10/09/2005 6:11:30 PM PDT by maryz
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To: Pukin Dog

Welcome back, PD.

I watched Russert this morning because I was somewhere without cable. I find it instructive that the only time the MSM trots out "conservative commentator, former presidential candidate Pat Buchanan" is when they know Buchanan's going to be critical of the President.

The President, thanks to the RINOs, had to nominate the person who stood the best chance of being confirmed. Common Tator and Miss Marple have pointed this fact out again and again.

I just don't understand the thinking that it's more important to nominate an unabashed conservative who's guaranteed to be Borked than to nominate a stealth conservative candidate who can win. How does losing advance the conservative cause?

President Bush has to play the hand he's been dealt, and thanks to the RINOs, this is it.


538 posted on 10/09/2005 6:13:13 PM PDT by Grandma Pam
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To: pollyannaish
I've been to a couple weddings like that, also. Only I was the groom. I just didn't realize the analogy until a few years later. LOL.

John / Billybob
539 posted on 10/09/2005 6:13:15 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Bush plays chess, while his opponents are playing checkers.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
OH baby---now that is marvelous 'stra-tee-ger-y'!

Hehe.

540 posted on 10/09/2005 6:13:34 PM PDT by Republic (Michael Schiavo LIED about having a college degree on his guardianship application,)
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