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Posted on 08/30/2005 1:34:04 PM PDT by NautiNurse
The situation in New Orleans continues to deteriorate due to rising water levels and desperation. Search and rescue continues via boat and air. Authorities have announced the goal to evacuate all the remaining residents of NOLA. The New Orleans Mayor has reported numerous gas leaks throughout the city. Sporadic fires occurring. Attempts to evacuate hundreds of hospital patients from Charity Hospital and Tulane Medical Center are in process. Patients are being transported to other hospitals as far away as Florida.
The Army Corps of Engineers is at the NOLA levee breaks with current plans to drop 3000 lb sand bags in an effort to stop the flow of water. NOLA hospital evacuations continue for thousands of patients. Reports indicate all evacuees are being taken to the SuperDome, which is now surrounded by water. The generators at the Dome are now in jeopardy. The Governor of Louisiana has called for a day of prayer tomorrow...
Elsewhere, search and rescue continue in Mississippi and Alabama. Biloxi reports indicate catastrophic damage.
Links to various news and local government websites:
WLOX TV Biloxi, Gulfport, Pascagula has link to locate family and friends (very slow load)
2theAdvocate - Baton Rouge Includes Slidell, St. John Parish, St. Bernard Parish updates, and other locations.
Inside Houma Today needing boats, volunteers, lists gas station openings, water, etc.
WALA Channel 4 Mobile, AL Includes links to distribution centers, Emergency Ops, etc.
Sun-Herald Gulfport MS Includes link to town by town reports
Mississippi updates via Jackson Ledger
Streaming Video:
WWL-TV (via KHOU/Houston): http://www.wwltv.com/cgi-bin/bi/video/makeadplaylist.pl?title=beloint_khou&live=yes
WKRG/Mobile: mms://wmbcast.mgeneral.speedera.net/wmbcast.mgeneral/wmbcast_mgeneral_aug262005_1435_95518
WDSU/New Orleans via WAPL/Jackson: mms://a842.l1291238841.c12912.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/842/12912/v0001/reflector:38841
All are Windows Media Player links.
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Due to the number of requests to assist, the following list of some charities is provided.
This is not intended as an endorsement for any of the charities.
www.redcross.org or 1-800 HELP NOW - note: website is slow
Salvation Army - 1-800-SAL-ARMY or Salvation Army currently looking for in-state volunteers - (888)363-2769
Operation Blessing: (800) 436-6348.
America's Second Harvest: (800) 344-8070.
Catholic Charities USA: (800) 919-9338, or www.catholiccharitiesusa.org.
Christian Reformed World Relief Committee: (800) 848-5818.
Church World Service: (800) 297-1516 or online at www.churchworldservice. org.
Lutheran Disaster Response: (800) 638-3522.
Nazarene Disaster Response: (888) 256-5886.
Presbyterian Disaster Assistance: (800) 872-3283.
Wal-Mart Stores Inc. is accepting donations at its 3,800 stores and Web site, www.walmart.com.
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Tropical Storm 12
Better go back and find the zeros on those scales. Also look for the "normal lake level" marker at the 1 foot mark.
I happened to wake up in time for the 4 am news. Cantore may actually have been correct in guesstimating the surge plus wave at 37 feet, for there were pictures of a beachfront building 5 stories tall with obvious fourth-floor damage. Other pictures included piles of matchsticks, a flipped 18-wheeler with only the tires showing above the floodwaters, shattered highways and bridges, and of course videos of the Coast Guard and looters in action.
Did Mississippi get proper warning or were news agencies just focused on New Orleans and LA?
The scale of this disaster is amazing, there are so many problems: Evacuation, Refugee Housing, Food & Water, Medical, Civil Engineering, Transportation, Alternate Export Routing, the Political Crisis which will develop, etc.
It is clearly beyond the capacity of the Louisiana government - but probably not beyond FR.
I remember the news, especially FNC, showing the projected paths, which showed the storm hitting the lower east side of Louisiana, then cutting up northeast and running up Mississippi.
Hurricane turned to east in last few hours.
LP elevation here:
http://waterdata.usgs.gov/nwis/uv?format=gif&period=7&site_no=073802331
Current 5.11 feet about 4 feet increase from gulf surge going over the dam backwards. Blow the dam and LP goes to 0.
most of NO drains back into the lake.
The wettest side of a hurricane is the northeast side. I don't think they expected the huge water surge.
I'm confused. Broken levies have water spilling into and filling the city.
Well said.
I'm so tied of the discussion about who did what wrong.
First action: get the people out.
Second action: Blow LP dam to drain most of the city.
Third action: get pumps going to finish draining city.
Four action: repair levees
Fifth action: have a big meeting to discuss what to do next.
True. But blow the LP dam and the lake goes down 5 feet. Well below even the breeches.
Sometimes I am amazed at what I do NOT know LOL!
Those of us who went through school when education was the priority know about the silt from the Mississippi and the delta.
My question is this-the Mississippi does not flow as it did in the past because of the dams and locks. Has that affected the silt deposits? I guess I am asking, if the Mississippi flowed as it did in the past, would NO be in such trouble today or is that one of those great debate questions no one can answer with certainty?
***....Gulfport Fire Chief Pat Sullivan said most of those who died in Gulfport perished in the zone of the storm surge, which pushed up to a set of railroad tracks about six blocks from the beach. "We begged, we pleaded, we demanded. We told them they had a good chance of dying if they didn't leave. But there's only so much government can do to protect people," Sullivan said. "Too many people tried to ride it out. We can't regulate good sense." ....*** Mississippi search crews pulling bodies from rubble - railroad tracks about six blocks from beach
Still confused.
Is this dam holding lake water back from the city?
If so, is there any place for it to go?
Do you want to add more if there is?
No the lake was overfilled by the storm surge going over the dam between it and the gulf. We need to blow a big hole in the dam to drain the lake down to sea level.
Okay. Thanks for taking the time to explain that to me.
well thats a good qustionyes and no however for years the Miss appears to want to try to break free north of baton rouge and follow a coursre similar to the atchafalya. Thats great for costal erosion prob on the rest of the gulf bad because it would cause major destruction but mainly bad for nola because it wouldnt be on the river or be aport and be pretty useless
well thats a good qustionyes and no however for years the Miss appears to want to try to break free north of baton rouge and follow a coursre similar to the atchafalya. Thats great for costal erosion prob on the rest of the gulf bad because it would cause major destruction but mainly bad for nola because it wouldnt be on the river or be aport and be pretty useless
The dam doesn't cross the whole lake does it? I thought S.E. section was free-flowing estuary?
Or, I probably should have said it's not so much a dam as it is protective wall between the tidal marshes to the south and the lake?
Don't know, trying to research where the level control really is. There must be a spillway, lock or something.
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