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To: Cincinatus' Wife

No the lake was overfilled by the storm surge going over the dam between it and the gulf. We need to blow a big hole in the dam to drain the lake down to sea level.


4,074 posted on 08/31/2005 2:39:35 AM PDT by John Jamieson (Hybrids are a highway around CAFE, that's all they're good for.)
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To: John Jamieson

Okay. Thanks for taking the time to explain that to me.


4,075 posted on 08/31/2005 2:42:46 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: John Jamieson

The dam doesn't cross the whole lake does it? I thought S.E. section was free-flowing estuary?


4,078 posted on 08/31/2005 2:46:07 AM PDT by Rebelbase ("Run Hillary Run" bumper stickers. Liberals place on rear bumper, conservatives put on front bumper)
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To: John Jamieson

Or, I probably should have said it's not so much a dam as it is protective wall between the tidal marshes to the south and the lake?


4,079 posted on 08/31/2005 2:48:33 AM PDT by Rebelbase ("Run Hillary Run" bumper stickers. Liberals place on rear bumper, conservatives put on front bumper)
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Plan for coping with levee break: patch, then pump***..................."It's a flood wall embedded in the earthen embankment," he said. "It began to stress [Monday] and ... cantilevered out of the levee." Then the dirt around it washed out and collapsed.

The rushing water tore 4 to 6 feet into the embankment, then cascaded the remaining 10 to 15 feet to the street, said Jeffrey Jensen, flood control program manager for the corps at its Washington headquarters.

Engineers hope the water gushing through the levee will slow or stop once the water in Lake Pontchartrain recedes to pre-storm levels and below the level of the breach.

"It's not subsiding as much as we'd hoped," Jensen said.

The Corps' plan to dump rocks or containers of sand into the gap from the air is a variation on what Stockton described as the standard procedure for mending a levee.

"You typically go in and start dumping large rocks or boulders to slow the flow of water down, which will slow the amount of erosion taking place," he said.

Smaller rocks, gravel and sand can then be poured in to seal the break. Sometimes a temporary ring levee is built outside the breach, often on higher ground where access is easier and the water flow slower.

Access to a levee break can be a problem. Some levees are designed to support truck traffic, but not this one. Barges are better if they can be moved close enough without being drawn into the gap.

"We're working on whether we can get a barge up there," Hecker said. "That's difficult due to the relatively narrow width of the canal."

Once the leak is plugged, the corps will turn to pumping.

The city's 22 drainage pumps can't do it fast enough on their own, so the Corps is prepared to bring in high-volume portable pumps to assist if the Federal Emergency Management Agency calls for them.

It would take "days or weeks" to drain the floodwater to a point where the city's pumping stations could operate again, Stockton said. Some pockets of water could remain for months.

In the meantime, tens of thousands of homes and businesses are steeping in seawater, sewage and other waste. ...............***

4,083 posted on 08/31/2005 2:59:02 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: John Jamieson

Aha, it has a dam. Where is it? Why doesn't it have a way to open it?


4,916 posted on 08/31/2005 9:32:56 AM PDT by Torie
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