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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative

Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923


Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.


Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.


PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)



I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE


Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)


This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.




TOPICS: US: Alabama; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: arrestedpaulvds; aruba; corruption; croes; daterapedrug; deepak; dutch; ghb; holloway; joran; kidnapped; mafia; missing; natalee; nataleeholloway; roofies; satish; sloot; tourism; travel; vandersloot
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To: BigSkyFreeper

I know what you mean. I go back and forth between "WHAT WERE YOU THINKING??" to "OMG I would just die if that were my child/husband"

The whole thing is a tragedy no matter how you look at it.


581 posted on 06/23/2005 10:58:00 PM PDT by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: texasbluebell

The kid may not be technically living under the same roof of the parents, but you can bet the parents are paying all the bills of the kid.


582 posted on 06/23/2005 10:58:21 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Whop-bobaloobop a WHOP BAM BOOM!!)
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To: bonfire
Except for the fact that Daddy looks (and acts) like such a simpering twerp.

Could just be for the cameras. Although Mama says he is very shy. I hope somebody writes a book about this.

583 posted on 06/23/2005 11:00:09 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: bonfire

I have no sympathy for these well-to-do schmucks who thought they could get away with murder because they're rich and famous people on the island of Aruba. My sympathy goes toward Natalee and her parents and friends.


584 posted on 06/23/2005 11:00:49 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Whop-bobaloobop a WHOP BAM BOOM!!)
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To: texasbluebell

I know a lady that lives in the Netherlands and her daughter is exactly the same way. She looks like a total freak (into the gothic thing) the kid runs her mother over and her mother lets her.


585 posted on 06/23/2005 11:01:58 PM PDT by stlnative (I have tons of sharp cheese to hand out to the Natalee thread whiners. :-)
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To: Pepper777; All
Translated Dutch News:

Right on Aruba the Dutch of assassination

ORANJESTAD judge who is stuck on Aruba because of the disappearance of American scholiere suspected, is now a verdachte in the matter. The 53 person whose birthday it is man is accused of the medeplegen of assassination, doodslag or removal with the death to consequence.

The judge was taken up yesterday. He is the father of the 17 person whose birthday it is boy who already concerning the vermissing of the 18 person whose birthday it is Natalee Holloway vastzat. Others also three become suspicious. Holloway disappeared three weeks suffered after schoolreisje. The police force thinks that she has been killed. So far no track of the scholiere has been found.

Posted by: LornaD | June 24, 2005 12:29 AM

586 posted on 06/23/2005 11:02:35 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

I've been gone a few days but I thought they were middle class?


587 posted on 06/23/2005 11:02:43 PM PDT by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: bonfire

Van Der Sloot's are affluent, hell the father is hoping to be a judge, and the other's (the Kalpoe's) are upper middle class.


588 posted on 06/23/2005 11:03:52 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Whop-bobaloobop a WHOP BAM BOOM!!)
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To: Howlin

I really do feel sorry for AvdS. Her world has been destroyed, there's no going back to the way it was. She may never understand how it all went wrong. But even so, she still knows where her child is.

The same can't be said for N's family. Not yet anyway. Maybe this will turn out well.

I'm really encouraged after reading about the ransom being paid.


589 posted on 06/23/2005 11:04:25 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: bluepistolero
Well, it was a sweet little world until they messed with Alabama.

No kiddin'.

I wondered a while back if the Arubans knew what a Steel Magnolia is. They're finding out. Beth will show 'em.

590 posted on 06/23/2005 11:08:10 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: Howlin

I believe it was reported by Revoldo when they where first collecting evidence from the beach


591 posted on 06/23/2005 11:08:26 PM PDT by vigilante2
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To: TexKat

What's all the birthday talk in the post, about?? I hated to read the line about the police thinking Natalee is dead.

Did anyone else ever hear that the Queen of Holland was going to appoint the Dad to his Judgeship? I wondered if that was normal or if they are very, very, wealthy people in Holland and were getting special treatment. I doubt if we'll ever know all there is to this story.

I sure hope this isn't true about the police thinking Natalee is dead. Beth's hope had made me think Natalee was still alive.


592 posted on 06/23/2005 11:09:53 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Oh, definitely. Joran didn't lift a finger, I'd wager.

Too much time on his hands.


593 posted on 06/23/2005 11:10:03 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: Howlin

Howlin,I feel nothing for these people.Where is Natalee .She is the same age as my daughter and many of my daughter's friends have gone there.Where is Natalee .


594 posted on 06/23/2005 11:10:13 PM PDT by fatima
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To: texasbluebell

I'd venture a guess Joran was too busy getting or staying drunk. Every photo of those 3 punks I've seen, they're holding some sort of mixed drink, or two.


595 posted on 06/23/2005 11:11:57 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Whop-bobaloobop a WHOP BAM BOOM!!)
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To: fatima
Any type of so called "date rape" drug, e.g., GHB, or gamma-hydroxybutyrate that is a colorless and odorless drug that if surreptitiously placed in a drink, would make the person drinking the GHB laced drink appear to be intoxicated, and could make such a person unconscious within 20 minutes. Victims frequently have no memory of what happened and the drug is difficult to trace, often leaving the body within 24 hours. Another similar drug is Rohypnol (or "roofies").
596 posted on 06/23/2005 11:14:23 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: maggiefluffs
He could be overheard talking on the phone. It wouldn't take much to decipher that conversation, if the lines are tapped.

Maybe the sound equipment picked up his conversation and the videotape was analyzed. Techs could enhance his audio portion of the tape and perhaps hear what the normal ear couldn't.
597 posted on 06/23/2005 11:17:15 PM PDT by hummingbird ("If it wasn't for the insomnia, I could have gotten some sleep!")
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To: kcvl
kcvl,Is that what happened?
598 posted on 06/23/2005 11:18:16 PM PDT by fatima
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Yes, always a drink in hand.


599 posted on 06/23/2005 11:23:53 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: Palladin

That's probably because Greta is Dutch.


600 posted on 06/23/2005 11:27:55 PM PDT by N. Beaujon (http://www.nbeaujon.com)
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