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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative

Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923


Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.


Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.


PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)



I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE


Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)


This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.




TOPICS: US: Alabama; Your Opinion/Questions
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To: bluepistolero

Yep!! That's the ones! :)


541 posted on 06/23/2005 10:33:09 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: justche

bookmarking


542 posted on 06/23/2005 10:33:51 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
Joran's half brother Lorenzo

Lorenzo, now where I have I read that name, just tonight?

543 posted on 06/23/2005 10:33:52 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: TexKat

From what I heard of the date rape drug on various crime documentaries, GHB is fast acting especially mixed with alcoholic beverages which is what GHB gets mixed up with. It'll knock the wind out of one's sails in the blink of an eye, and in some cases may even kill the person.


544 posted on 06/23/2005 10:34:05 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Whop-bobaloobop a WHOP BAM BOOM!!)
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To: Howlin

Usually the talking heads, are full of it. LOL But maybe they're right this time.


545 posted on 06/23/2005 10:35:49 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: Pepper777

Well I grew up in a very hard part of the midwest and the stuff was around and easy to get back then, it was not used as date rape drug in my neck of the woods. The kids would get high with it, but you had to watch how much you took or would find yourself passed out cold. There was many different types of drugs around back then, including crack which was not the drug of choice back then and you very little about it back then.


546 posted on 06/23/2005 10:36:41 PM PDT by stlnative (I have tons of sharp cheese to hand out to the Natalee thread whiners. :-)
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To: Pepper777

A&E made a show based on his successful capture of the Revlon heir. Of course he was captured and jailed himself for simply doing the job the FBI should have been doing all along.


547 posted on 06/23/2005 10:37:06 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Whop-bobaloobop a WHOP BAM BOOM!!)
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To: Howlin

" Lorenzo, now where I have I read that name, just tonight?"

It was in one of those posts from Reihl about the ransom. I think TexKat posted them.


548 posted on 06/23/2005 10:37:35 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: Pepper777
Something else that struck me today:

SHE SAYS

On Dan Abrams' show, the mother said that Joran said "The only thing I did wrong was not bring her to a responsible adult."

What the hell does that mean?

549 posted on 06/23/2005 10:38:16 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin

"And I heard either she or her sister this night saying that they thought she was alive and that "they are moving her around from place to place."

"Did anybody else hear that?"

~~~~~~~~~~

Yes, I'm certain Beth did say that.

Who knows? Stranger things have happened. It would be a miracle if she is still alive, but I never thought the little boy last week would be found, not to mention Eliz. Smart.

Miracles do still happen in this crazy world.


550 posted on 06/23/2005 10:38:56 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: Pepper777

also note that a mattress was found along the beach in the Marriot area that had Transmission fluid on it (transmission fluid is red like the color of blood)

not likely it used for tanning lotion

could it have been used to cover blood stains?



551 posted on 06/23/2005 10:39:25 PM PDT by vigilante2
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To: Howlin

What drives me insane is these parents were talking about "house rules" in these interviews, and I'm like WTH? Kids coming home at 3:30am on a damn school night? Had that been me when I was their age, mom would get the belt with the meat hooks and whip my hide right off my bones.


552 posted on 06/23/2005 10:40:15 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Whop-bobaloobop a WHOP BAM BOOM!!)
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To: brigette

I didn't realize people took it as a drug voluntarily. That's scary, but I guess not as scary, as having it put in their drink by someone else.


553 posted on 06/23/2005 10:41:26 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: TexKat

OMG. Amazing.

I can believe it.


554 posted on 06/23/2005 10:41:35 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

no


555 posted on 06/23/2005 10:42:11 PM PDT by vigilante2
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To: BigSkyFreeper

I thought that was terrible when they put *Dog* in jail.


556 posted on 06/23/2005 10:43:13 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: Howlin

"The only thing I did wrong was not bring her to a responsible adult."

Reading along and jumping in:

I think it means that he's saying she was too drunk and he should have made sure she was safe.


557 posted on 06/23/2005 10:43:25 PM PDT by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: Howlin

Very interesting remark.

Translation--> I turned to my dad who is NOT responsibly, for help.


558 posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:38 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: vigilante2
also note that a mattress was found along the beach in the Marriot area that had Transmission fluid on it (transmission fluid is red like the color of blood)

What?

559 posted on 06/23/2005 10:45:06 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Saw that "house rules" b.s.

No one paid any attention to what this Joran was doing. He was free to do "whatever".


560 posted on 06/23/2005 10:45:13 PM PDT by bonfire (dwindler)
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