Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative
Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...
Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts
Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts
Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts
Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts
Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts
Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts
Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts
Aruba Info...
Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif
Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif
San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif
Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)
Hotel Pictures -
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)
Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1
Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1
Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg
Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html
Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif
Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)
Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/
Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html
Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html
Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)
Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/
Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923
Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.
Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif
The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long
B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.
D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse - the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.
D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.
G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located
D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives
F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.
C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.
E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.
PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
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This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.
Examples
Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif
or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)
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Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
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(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)
This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.
Been lurking on here for a couple of days. Better and more informative than FOX.
The way this is starting to unfold is making more sense.
Early on, Russ Fine, of 101.1 in B'ham, had stated that he had it from a very reliable source that there was a lot going on behind the scenes in this case.
What he alluded to was that a kdinapping had taken place, but could say no more than "there are people involved at very high levels."
Perhaps his source was correct. Thusfar, no body has been found. The longer the little brat behind bars stays silent, the colder the trail grows, IMHO.
I tend to think (and pray)that Nat is still alive, and being held at a location other than Aruba.
just my 2 cents.
Posted by: bamaboy | June 23, 2005 10:47 PM
GHB has been around a long time - long before it was called the Date Rape Drug. It was around when I was a teenager in the early to middle 1980's.
I saw the show ... and she seems level headed. But so much about this case is puzzling.
Also, I understand that the entire trial will be held behind closed doors (if there is one). But does the public EVER get to hear what happened?
Holding them under suspicion of premeditated murder has upped the ante to the point that surely some one of them will crack.
Yes, thank you. Hence my comment on 526.
I think the planned use of a pharmaceutical or illegal substance during a sex crime is definitely premeditated rape.
Senor,
Like most everything else, it is pure rumor and speculation but I did hear small amount of chatter re ransom being paid today. Was face to face communication, not on internet nor in media. A friend of a friend heard. I live in Alabama with relatives in Mountain Brook. But I cannot verify in any way and have heard other rumors that turned out not to be true from same sources. Gossip, in other words. What I heard was the natural father of Natalie had made arrangements for payment via insurance policy he holds on all family members or had filed a claim on that policy.
I find this hard to believe since he is out in the garbage dump digging for her body. But in the absence of facts, people will talk, hoping something is being done and some how she is still alive.
So perhaps the search team will be able to at least get the dad out of the dump as it seems they have finally decided the certified dogs are not going to infest their island with imaginary diseases. In fact, one might think they would be more concerned about all that garbage rotting in the heat with all sorts of discarded appliances and vehicles leaking who knows what instead of four immaculate canines doing professional work. I don't remember seeing any photos of the dumps in the travel brochures, either. Rather poor sanitation practices for a place so concerned about contamination via search dogs.
As I understand it there are three dumps and a pond between the home of the VDS and the two brothers' home that may be a starting point. Have to wonder why these have not been searched already but can only surmise it is because they did not want to find anything and only looked where they thought nothing would be found. But if her body was thrown in there and things have since been added on top of it, as in the case of the Hackering woman in Utah, they might not have been able to retrieve it for better hiding. At least not without attracting major attention or some sort of moving equipment depending on what has been added since the body. Just a thought.
Also, can anyone provide a link to the article which appeared around the time Joren was taken into custody the second time that contained a quote by the Chief of Police or other high ranking LE to the effect "How can I do this to my best friend's son?" I read it at the time but did not realize how meanigful it was. Wish I had kept the article and if anyone knows where I can find it please send me a link as I would like to have that as a reminder of how this all came to be such a royal mess.
Posted by: Anna | June 23, 2005 11:02 PM
The Revlon heir used the stuff and filmed his victims. I remember some of them saying they had no recollection of the things they did while under the influence of GHB. He escaped to Mexico during his trial, but was caught by a bounty hunter. They made a TV movie of his case.
My thinking is, it's a family affair. They're all involved in her murder. They're thinking they could get away with it based on the fact they are rich and famous people living on that island.
Must not take very long to kick in. The Kalpoe brothers' mother said they told her N was very drunk when they were driving around. That wasn't too long after they left the club, I think.
Caught by Dog and that wrestler wife of his.
Amazing...unfreaking believable post! -- I remember the dumps while there years back. I'm sure they are lots more expansive than then.
Hope this girl is found alive. And if God has already taken her, both creepy stubborn son and father should pay the ultimate price.
I cannot imagine that "premediated" doesn't mean something CLOSE to what it means here, can you?
Of course, it can mean what it means here, any time......even a minute or a second before. But how can that involve the father?
What on earth could make them charge "premediated murder" without a body OR evidence of a crime, really?
Supposedly not related.
" Holding them under suspicion of premeditated murder has upped the ante to the point that surely some one of them will crack. ""
That may very well be why they are using the term of Pre-Meditated Murder, hoping the two brothers will tell all, for a plea deal.
Right, but if they kill her it will be impossible to get rid of her body with the search teams and publicity around. If she's alive, her kidnappers are probably flipping out.
Wasn't there a rumor about Joran's half brother Lorenzo being involved? He is Daddy's son from a previous relationship. He is supposedly close to Joran.
Daddy and Joran like to gamble. Have they accrued any large debts to unsavory characters?
To a person, all the talking heads have said tonight that there is no way the Aruban police would charge that to use it as 'wedge' between the boys, the father, and the son.
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