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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative

Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923


Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.


Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.


PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)



I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE


Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)


This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.




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To: maggiefluffs

SM:

This same poster appears to be in Aruba. He was asked if the family was aware of the "hit" at the quarry, etc. He said that the family has asked that nothing be announced to the media unless there's a positive identification.


3,041 posted on 06/27/2005 3:39:43 PM PDT by maggief
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To: af_vet_1981

I can't get past Beth's feelings that Natalee was at the vdS home at 3am, or was it 3:15am?


3,042 posted on 06/27/2005 3:41:34 PM PDT by maggief
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To: maggiefluffs

The silence from the media is deafening. I can't imagine the press being quiet about anything to do with searches or hits even if the family requested it. Hopefully, we'll hear something from Greta later.


3,043 posted on 06/27/2005 3:44:25 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: brigette

" yeah I watch it today... just like another day in the BTKs normal life. (he is enjoying this) "

I agree, Brigette. I've heard people like the BTK, get some sort of a sick high, from talking about their hedious crimes. Sadly the victim's families have no way of knowing, if he is even telling the truth. He probably has no empathy for what he has done to the victims and feels no remorse.

Thanks for the great links you've provided today.


3,044 posted on 06/27/2005 3:44:54 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: the Deejay; brigette; maggiefluffs; TexKat; Howlin; Gracey; No Surrender No Retreat
Had to run some errands and heard Geraldo on Sean Hannity's radio show. Whooo-Hoooo, Geraldo was ripping the Arubans for the NH investigation like you wouldn't believe! I was really happy to hear it. I'm not a fan of Geraldo, but he does have a big mouth and we all know this investigation has been botched from the get-go and while the complaints have been restrained, he goes full force. I'm sure he'll repeat all of his criticisms tonight on Fox News. Some highlights:

*Says the ONLY reason anything happened with the VDS's is because of Beth, Jug & Dave... Period (went into details)! The authorities were perfectly happy to nab the two poor security guards & that was what the VDS's were counting on, etc.

*Talked about the first night when PVDS was telling Joran to stay silent and not say anything right in front of Beth & Jug. Said there were two police officers there & the VDS's were speaking the local language having quite a conversation. Beth & Jug, of course, couldn't understand them, but Geraldo couldn't believe the two officers were never even asked about what the VDS's said to each other! Their conversation was clearly overheard by the officers and yet the "investigator" didn't bother.

*He blasted them (like we all have) for wasting days and not seizing and collecting potential evidence from the ones who were with Natalee last, and their lack of competency. In fact, he said that a rookie cop in the U.S. would have done a much better job.

Anyway, Geraldo roasted & toasted the Arubans for their incompetency and I truly think it will reverberate. If the Arubans don't get their sh*t together an punish the ones responsible, just wait until Natalee's parents hit the U.S. and tell their stories. Their tempers alone will cause a tsunami to hit Aruba!

3,045 posted on 06/27/2005 3:45:32 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)
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To: WestCoastGal

I watched it live this morning. The 'thing' spoke as though he was discussing planting his garden. Absolutely chilling!

Some people are a total waste of skin.

I had to turn to the weather channel after just a few moments of listening to him..............still depressed.


3,046 posted on 06/27/2005 3:46:46 PM PDT by Rushmore Rocks
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To: maggiefluffs
Her senses may have been right and if she is found in the quarry then they moved her there quickly from the VDS property. It could be police asked to go into Joran's "pad" that night and Daddy told them not without a search warrant. PVDS's demeanor may have became more "nervous" when this was asked by police.
3,047 posted on 06/27/2005 3:47:55 PM PDT by stlnative (please do feed the THREAD trolls by responding to the thread troll's post)
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To: demkicker

Great report. Thank you.


3,048 posted on 06/27/2005 3:48:02 PM PDT by maggief
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To: All

I woke up to that horrifying testimony this morning from the BTK killer. The one consolation I have if a "nice" looking man like that came to my door are the two dogs that waited patiently at the bottom of my bed for me to wake up.

Belgian Malinois they are. BTK would get my male's best "cujo" imitation at the front door, and never get past him, for if he did, my female, Hanna, is ready to do the "tag-team" thing.

These dogs take a lot of time, and are not for those who work out of the home, but for pure family protection, they can't be beat. Know your breeder, of course, and be ready for training, (best with private trainer) and never go to the bathroom alone again, or anywhere for that matter. But, they will protect you to the death, yet sit on command.


3,049 posted on 06/27/2005 3:49:11 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; brigette; maggiefluffs; No Surrender No Retreat; ...
From SM:

arubagirl Monkey Junkey

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 6:41 pm Post subject:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Been to Moko damn closes to Montanja (about 2 minutes driving)

NOTHING. All quiet. No evidence tags, no one in the water, nothing.

Asked a friend helping in TX group. He searched until 4 pm, found nothing.

3,050 posted on 06/27/2005 3:53:47 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: demkicker

Wow!!!

Thanks for that interesting bit
from Hannity's radio show.

I wish Geraldo would say same on
TV!!

If the Americans in Aruba don't
start speaking their minds, from
there, they're wrong in not doing
so.

It's Aruba! not the USSR.


3,051 posted on 06/27/2005 3:53:48 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: Otta B Sleepin

I wonder if he attended one of those alleged Aruban Underground parties? The only one I am aware of, is the guy(found) who lost his head via an unknown sharp instrument.

Anything is possible as to who might be in the quarry. I am hoping that Natalee is located. I pray there may be some evidence though minute, to put the slam dunk on the perps. NSNR


3,052 posted on 06/27/2005 3:54:03 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: Malichi

Glad you liked the comment. I quess we could call Teddy, "Baby Snorkel." NSNR


3,053 posted on 06/27/2005 3:56:41 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: WestCoastGal

Today was his BIG chance to give
detailed reports of his evil deeds,
on tv w/a HUGE audience.

And he played it to the hilt!

I hope he doesn't live long in
prison.


3,054 posted on 06/27/2005 4:00:07 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: TexKat

May have been a false/positive hit by the dog. Someone said a body had been found recently in that quarry, so maybe they picked up that scent if the other body had been in the quarry if it had been in the water for sometime before it was pulled out.

I won't go into detail about water logged bodies and what happens to them, but my hubby has told me about it as he has pulled a few out of Mississippi before.


3,055 posted on 06/27/2005 4:01:05 PM PDT by stlnative (please do feed the THREAD trolls by responding to the thread troll's post)
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To: demkicker
Anyway, Geraldo roasted & toasted the Arubans for their incompetency and I truly think it will reverberate. If the Arubans don't get their sh*t together an punish the ones responsible, just wait until Natalee's parents hit the U.S. and tell their stories. Their tempers alone will cause a tsunami to hit Aruba!

Geraldo should roast and toast himself. The reporting he did yesterday was absolutely pitiful. And what you posted that Geraldo was ranting and raving about was already known. Its been posted in articles and threads for days here now.

Just about the only thing that we have received from Geraldo regarding this case is lies, unconfirmed and misinformation.

3,056 posted on 06/27/2005 4:01:58 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

No death penalty for him in Kansas, under the grand-father clause. I am sure he will be well received by the (AB)moments before he meets his allah.NSNR


3,057 posted on 06/27/2005 4:03:53 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: No Surrender No Retreat
No death penalty for him in Kansas

You are kidding me. That makes me want to cry.

I am not one that is big on the death penalty. But there are those that just really need killing. And this one qualifies.

3,058 posted on 06/27/2005 4:09:34 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

The only justification for keeping him alive is to study him, like one would a particularly nasty insect.


3,059 posted on 06/27/2005 4:14:32 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: TexKat

TexKat did the prosecutor really mean pVDS is a (SINO)suspect in name only? NSNR


3,060 posted on 06/27/2005 4:15:36 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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