[maggief]

I can't get past Beth's feelings that Natalee was at the vdS home at 3am, or was it 3:15am?

[stlnative]

Her senses may have been right and if she is found in the quarry then they moved her there quickly from the VDS property. It could be police asked to go into Joran's "pad" that night and Daddy told them not without a search warrant. PVDS's demeanor may have became more "nervous" when this was asked by police.

[jacquej]

I woke up to that horrifying testimony this morning from the BTK killer. The one consolation I have if a "nice" looking man like that came to my door are the two dogs that waited patiently at the bottom of my bed for me to wake up.

Belgian Malinois they are. BTK would get my male's best "cujo" imitation at the front door, and never get past him, for if he did, my female, Hanna, is ready to do the "tag-team" thing.

These dogs take a lot of time, and are not for those who work out of the home, but for pure family protection, they can't be beat. Know your breeder, of course, and be ready for training, (best with private trainer) and never go to the bathroom alone again, or anywhere for that matter. But, they will protect you to the death, yet sit on command.