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Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Link to Previous Thread ^ | 6/20/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/19/2005 10:14:36 PM PDT by stlnative

FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts?q=1&&page=1#1

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts?q=1&&page=1#1

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923


FR Quick Ping List (copy & paste) - active posters to the thread
(there is no real ping list - I really do not have one and I do not plan to make one)
Andy'smom;bonfire;brigette;kcvl;maggiefluffs;No Surrender No Retreat;Palladin;Rippersnapper;sarasota;TexKat;theophilusscribe


Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.


PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)


 


TOPICS: US: Alabama; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: aruba; corruption; croes; daterapedrug; deepak; ghb; holloway; joran; kidnapped; mafia; missing; natalee; nataleeholloway; satish; sloot; tourism; travel; vandersloot
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To: the Deejay


I prefer to think I was a great judge of character....lol. I came close to marrying him. :)


1,521 posted on 06/22/2005 5:05:34 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: WestCoastGal

I don't think sharks necessarily stay in one area. They pretty much go wherever there's water. Not that I'm buying the shark theory anyway ;-)


1,522 posted on 06/22/2005 5:05:59 PM PDT by GatorGirl (God Bless Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: cajungirl

I had to re read it a few times, until I saw what texasrangerette meant. I wish I had seen the interview.


1,523 posted on 06/22/2005 5:07:17 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: elli1
Bringing in an outside judge was a move to demonstrate impartiality.

All the more reason for letting the FBI assist in the investigation, to REMOVE doubts of impartiality. Thanks for helping to make my point! :)

1,524 posted on 06/22/2005 5:08:55 PM PDT by Rippersnapper
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To: All
2005 Mountain Brook High Graduates

Thursday, May 26, 2005

Mountain Brook High School commencement was May 24 at the Wright Performing Arts Center.

Honor graduates are Milner Benedict Owens, Casey Lawrence Raymond, Alexander Jobe Fix, Joanna Michelle Smith, Jori Ellen May, Carlie Hannah Stein, Sarah Eleanor Israel, Thomas Andrew Davis Jr., Yang Cao, Joseph Anthony Carley IV, Matthew McClelland Lukens, Amy Powell Roebuck, Edward Urban Kissel IV, Marquerite Lee Lucas, Allison Amanda Mays and Katherine Lynn Bluhm.

Class officers are Seth Capper, president; Katherine Miller, vice president; Mallory Sylvester, secretary; and Milner Owens, treasurer.

Candidates for graduation:

Sarah Brannon Ager, Robert Thurman Agnew III, Yelena Iosifovna Aleksandrovich, Sara Emily Allen, Jennifer Deborah Allon, Frank Martin Alverson Jr., Alexandra Ruth Anderson, Natalie Stewart Anderson, Taylor Brookings Anderson, Nicholas Arciniegas, Elizabeth Garrabrant Ard, Ann Sara Ascherman, Alvah Votelle Barron IV, McLean Carlisle Bean, Blayke Hanan Bearman, Craig Shipley Beatty, Catherine Elizabeth Beckham, Brandon Heath Benson, Dewi Aryanthi Billano, Ariel Bitran, Hannah Stewart Black, Barbara Blount Blackburn, Colin Adams McNeer Blanton, Katherine Lynn Bluhm, Danielle Lynn Bogart, Ryan Jay Broda, Kevin Louis Broday, Steven Isaac Bromberg, Lee Ashford Broughton, Anne Campbell Brown, Holly Graves Brown, Jeremy Edward Brown, Katherine Lee Brown, Ruth Ann Brown, Allison Elizabeth Bullington, Kathleen Davis Burg, April Suzanne Burgin, Sarah Payne Burton, Christopher Alfred Bush, Frances Ellen Byrd, William Randolph Byrd, Elizabeth Lewis Cain, Jessica Ann Caiola, David Preston Camp, Andrew Todd Campbell, John Holmes Cantrell, Yang Cao, Seth Frederic Capper, Joseph Anthony Carley IV, Patrick William Carey, Nicholas Salvatore Carley, Brandon Victor Carlisle, Elizabeth Anne Cezayirli, James Barnett Chenoweth III, Tatum Elizabeth Clanton, Ashley Nicole Cobb, Philip David Cohn, Phillip Mason Colgin, Ann Belton Collins, Megan Olivia Collins, Christopher Adam Cook, Gaines Richmond Cooper, Rebecca Ann Cooper, Wiley Howard Cooper V, Richard Thomas Corbett Jr., Jamie Blaine Davis, Thomas Andrew Davis Jr., Lauren Anne Deierhoi, Jessica Anne Delo, Shannon Elizabeth Denney, Griffin Fleming Dewey, Katherine Parker Dillard, D. 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Nichols, Andrew Jackson Noble IV, Rachel Eve Nomberg, Michael Patrick Taylor O'Neal, Milner Benedict Owens, Virginia O'Neal Page, Samuel Tate Patterson, Marian Courtney Patton, Casey Carlisle Payne, Caroline Carson Perkins, Joseph Hunter Phillips IV, Robert William Plumb Jr., Franklin Adams Pritchard Jr., James Moody Proctor III, Thomas Michael Putnam, David Walton Rader, Thornton Hope Ratliff, Bruce Alan Rawls Jr., Casey Lawrence Raymond, Christopher William Reuther, Bryan Montgomery Reynolds, Daniel Wesley Richeson Jr., Brian Connor Riser, Sarah Savannah Roach, Anna Catherine Roberson, Mary Elizabeth Roberson, Amy Powell Roebuck, Carly Rogoff Richard, Irvin Roth Jr., Christina Ashley Rountree, Emily Beth Rousso, Matthew Pelham Rowan, Katie Michelle Rushing, Stephanie Lynn Saia, Kristen Janeil Sandefer, Stephen Tyler Sandlin, Rachel Christine Saxon, John Slade Screven Jr., Mary-Katherine Sellers, Valgerdur Nielsen Sherer, Abby Lee Siegel, Jessica Lee Simmons, Mary Elizabeth Sims, 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1,525 posted on 06/22/2005 5:09:31 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: onyx

Talking about girlfriends brought this to mind - an incident from many years ago...

My daughter, who happens to be quite beautiful,was in a car accident - car totaled - my son met up my daughter's 'best friend' - as he was describing what happened to the car - she interrupts and says, "What happened to her face".

Jealously. Not saying Natalee's friend is BUT I'm not saying she isn't.

PS - not a scratch on my daughter's face but she did break her jaw.


1,526 posted on 06/22/2005 5:09:49 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: GatorGirl

How would anyone think they
could see sharks when it's
pitch black? Aruba doesn't
appear to have many street
lamps. Especially, around
the beaches. FOX'S Rick
Levanthal showed us how
dark it is around the
lighhouse area at night.
Also, said the lighthouse
light isn't always on.


1,527 posted on 06/22/2005 5:12:27 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: sarasota
"Greta reporting on her second meeting with the VS's, who want to go on camera to tell about their son."

This ought to be good. I think they have decided to use our media to spin their side of the story.

1,528 posted on 06/22/2005 5:16:05 PM PDT by WestCoastGal (Jr: “Heh.. that’s about the coolest thing that can happen. Other than a win or a great pass ~L Dog)
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To: Palladin
Today the plan is to spend the day with Natalee's mother... let's see if the plan is carried out.

Interesting add on comment by Greta.

Also, just caught Greta on the Factor and she said that after she and Natalee's mom had met for 90 minutes yesterday, that Natalees mom pressed to be able to do so the following day. TODAY. She wanted ACCESS. So, it was a greed upon by the Sloots. So Greta was to spend the whold day with Natalee's mom Today to see how she pends her day, PLUS have a second interview with the Sloots. The meeting was set for 3 pm.

As time approached Natalee's mom told Greta she couldn't make the appointment with the Sloots. Odd considering that she presed them so hard for this appointment and ACCESS the day before. Not to mention rude. Sorry, but she wanted the appointment then pulled a no show. Time will tell, I guess, if her time was better spent. Maybe she thought Greta could ask better questions, or maybe she thought they would reveal more, to Greta. We'll see.

1,529 posted on 06/22/2005 5:16:07 PM PDT by Rippersnapper
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To: the Deejay

Was there moonlight that night? A full or near-full moon can be quite bright.


1,530 posted on 06/22/2005 5:16:15 PM PDT by GatorGirl (God Bless Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: the Deejay
Fruedian slip, concerning the shark watching?

Been gone most of the day, and it doesn't look like much is happening.

Just a thought here, but it's impossible for me to imagine that Joran would have left any girl asleep on the beach at that hour in the early morning...AND he knew she had a plane to catch in a few hours.

Or has this part of the story been retracted yet?

1,531 posted on 06/22/2005 5:18:22 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (What happens in Aruba..stays in Aruba))
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To: the Deejay
Yeah, going to see the sharks at 1-2 am sounded strange to me. (Unless they were white sharks, LOL). Maybe they were going to use some Night Vision gear like the military has??? That explanation of his did not make sense.

But, then, I wonder why would Deepak say such a strange thing that could be debunked so easily, unless it really was true and just some dumb thing Natalee asked to do. You know, if she was drunk, or even had a little "buzz" on she could have said that. Whatever, the whole thing is still all very "fishy." (Excuse me, I couldn't resist)

1,532 posted on 06/22/2005 5:19:00 PM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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To: GatorGirl; the Deejay

Sharks are hunters. They're drawn to blood. Here's a differring view:

You might have one niggling question: "Great fun, but what about sharks?". Sharks are often portrayed in movies as vicious and aggressive man-eaters. In reality, however, sharks keep to themselves and the chances of getting injured by a shark are much less than the chances of being struck by lightning! It's good to learn sharks prefer to keep to themselves and don't bother you as long you don't bother them. Other dangerous fish will leave you alone if you leave them alone. Sharks are more like scavengers than predators, and it is very rare to get injured by marine animals. Accidents only happen if the animal feels it has to defend itself because it is being provoked in some way by divers. The golden rule for divers is to dive sensibly and responsibly. Some corals and sponges may be harmful but this will only be the case if you touch them. In case you accidentally touch or scrape one, your dive master can quite easily treat the sting with an ointment he will carry with him to the diving location.

http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/scuba.html


1,533 posted on 06/22/2005 5:19:31 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: GatorGirl

Not when Rick was there.
There's never enough
moonlight to see anything
in the water. The water
is still dark and so are
fish.


1,534 posted on 06/22/2005 5:20:07 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: Rippersnapper

Maybe Natalee's mom can't stand the thought of spending any more time with the Sloots after the first time. I saw her pull away when the Sloot woman kissed her.


1,535 posted on 06/22/2005 5:20:15 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: af_vet_1981
This could be significant.

Darn right! Erroneous information gets passed on because no one checked it out and corrected the information.

1,537 posted on 06/22/2005 5:22:25 PM PDT by Rippersnapper
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To: spectre

Good of you to "escape" and join us here. No real news today except Shep reported that the authorities put the brothers and JVDS is the same room and VDS chnaged his story about which brother picked him up, after the one brother asked VDS "why are you lying?"


1,538 posted on 06/22/2005 5:22:48 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: hershey; maggiefluffs
Totally self serving twaddle by Deepak. The Natalee portrayed here possesses the total opposite of her known character. She's pushy, aggressive, falling down drunk, and chasing men. Also has gambled away $360 of her father's money. Deepak and his brother and chum, Joran, are complete gentlemen, taken advantage of by this slut, and how mean is that! To top it off, they implicate the black guards. No police officer in his right mind would buy this lock, stock, and barrel since the truth usually lies somewhere in the middle, and the girl is missing. This could be the original story, however. They're just stupid and young enough to think it would work.

Deepak's story stinks to high heaven! Everyone who knows Natalee knows it too. This is the story the three of them rehearsed over and over again. They know damn well what happened to Natalee because they're responsible for her disappearance & possible death.

1,539 posted on 06/22/2005 5:24:00 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)
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To: TexKat
Did anyone notice O'Reilly's power trips tonight on Greta and Alan? When he wasn't belittling them, he was condescending.....and he indulged in the usual cutting off with Greta. Very strange behavior towards his felllow Fox employees. He certainly is an egomaniac, plus a know-it-all of the first order.

But then, we know that.

Of course, O'R is the STAR in the Fox pecking order.

Colmes needs a fashion consultant on the island. Alan, you're in the tropics. Get rid of the funereal clothes, you look like a dork you are. I'll bet you have black lace-up shoes on when you walk the beach.

Leni

1,540 posted on 06/22/2005 5:24:17 PM PDT by MinuteGal (Remember, Half the People You Know are Below Average)
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