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Jesus died of blood clot - Israeli researcher
Yahoo - Reuters ^ | June 8, 2005

Posted on 06/08/2005 4:41:38 AM PDT by echoBoomer

JERUSALEM (Reuters) - An Israeli researcher has challenged the popular belief that Jesus died of blood loss on the cross, saying he probably succumbed to a sometimes fatal disorder now associated with long-haul air travel.

Professor Benjamin Brenner wrote in The Journal of Thrombosis and Haemostasis that Jesus's death, traditionally believed to have occurred 3-6 hours after crucifixion began, was probably caused by a blood clot that reached his lungs.

Such pulmonary embolisms, leading to sudden death, can stem from immobilisation, multiple trauma and dehydration, said Brenner, a researcher at Rambam Medical Center in Haifa.

"This fits well with Jesus's condition and actually was in all likelihood the major cause of death by crucifixion," he wrote in the article, based on religious and medical texts.

A 1986 study in the Journal of the American Medical Association mentioned the possibility that Jesus suffered a blood clot but concluded that he died of blood loss.

But Brenner said research into blood coagulation had made significant strides over the past two decades.

He said recent medical research has linked immobility among passengers on lengthy air flights to deep vein thrombosis, popularly known as "economy-class syndrome" in which potentially fatal blood clots can develop, usually in the lower legs.

Brenner noted that before crucifixion, Jesus underwent scourging, but the researcher concluded that "the amount of blood loss by itself" would not have killed him.

He said that Jesus, as a Jew from what is now northern Israel, may have been particular at risk to a fatal blood clot.

Thrombophilia, a rare condition in which blood has an increased tendency to clot, is common to natives of the Galilee, the researcher wrote.

© Reuters 2005. All Rights Reserved.


TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: archaeology; blood; crucifix; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history; israel; jerusalem; jesus; kookthread; postedtowrongforum
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To: Petronski; onyx; cyborg
Jesus said

Matthew 10:14 If anyone will not welcome you or "listen to your words", shake the dust off your feet when you leave that home or town.

Jesus always knows best!!

101 posted on 06/08/2005 8:42:42 AM PDT by WKB (A closed mind is a good thing to lose.)
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To: rwfromkansas; Petronski

You never fail to disappoint. Now do you really think anybody here right now, bothered to read all that? If so, think again.


102 posted on 06/08/2005 8:43:28 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: onyx

. Now do you really think anybody here right now, bothered to read all that? If so, think again.




I promise I was 3 seconds from saying the same thing.


103 posted on 06/08/2005 8:45:20 AM PDT by WKB (A closed mind is a good thing to lose.)
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To: rwfromkansas
...God is a failure if a person did not choose him...

Oh my.

104 posted on 06/08/2005 8:45:25 AM PDT by Petronski (How do you solve a problem like Petronski?)
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To: Petronski; onyx; cyborg

Something is wrong with this picture.
Baptists and Catholics are agreeing!! :>)


105 posted on 06/08/2005 8:46:43 AM PDT by WKB (A closed mind is a good thing to lose.)
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To: WKB


I believe you on that. You KNOW I do. FOTFLOL!


106 posted on 06/08/2005 8:46:50 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: onyx

I live to plow through voluminous, circular Calvinist tautologies!


Everybody needs a hobby.


107 posted on 06/08/2005 8:47:05 AM PDT by Petronski (How do you solve a problem like Petronski?)
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To: brwnsuga; Petronski

Please note that the dry bones in Ezekiel didn't have a choice. They were dead.

It was God alone that made them alive.

Yes, WE HAVE A CHOICE. When we accept Christ, we willingly do so and with joy.

But, it ultimately is up to God to lead us to that point because as fallen sinners, we are dead in sin and hate God.

It is God who "began" the good work in us and will finish it (Phil. 1:6).

Praise God.

I know many disagree with me on this, particularly since it means He could not have died for everybody. Heck, I used to as well. But, I believe it to be the truth, and ultimately more gracious than letting everyone choose death in their own free will, since that is what every since one of us would have chosen if left up to us alone.

Blessings on this beautiful day of the Lord.


108 posted on 06/08/2005 8:48:04 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: Petronski


ROTFLMYKWO! Hilarious! You have NOT lost your touch! LOL-LOL-LOL!


109 posted on 06/08/2005 8:48:32 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: gobucks

I believe that Christ died FOR our sins, not because of or from our sins. He died because he was killed, sacrificed, to atone for our sins. Because He is perfect, his death was the atonement, however it occurred.

All that said, I do find it interesting as to what the MEDICAL cause of death was...


110 posted on 06/08/2005 8:50:46 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: rwfromkansas; WKB; Petronski

I see you're not finished yet. OMG!

"Everyone needs a hobby" --- FOTFLOL!


111 posted on 06/08/2005 8:50:47 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: Petronski
I live to plow through voluminous, circular Calvinist tautologies!

Calvinism is so seductive cause it completely absolves the believer from any responsibility for his actions. God wills and commands every single thing that happens and nothing we do can change it.

SD

112 posted on 06/08/2005 8:55:08 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: WKB
Well, if you don't care about discussing the nature of our amazing God, fine.

You can believe in your weak begging dog who has to rely on us to somehow choose him Even though THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE SINCE WE ARE ****DEAD IN SIN AND DEAD MEN DON'T GET UP OF THEIR OWN ACCORD AND IT IS GOD WHO BEGINS THE GOOD WORK IN US AND WHO DOES IT ALL IN THE SEQUENCE FROM ROMANS 8:29.

I have better things to do. Good day.

As for me, I believe in the ALMIGHTY.

113 posted on 06/08/2005 8:55:30 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: SoothingDave

That IS seductive. Do you have a pamphlet?




(LOL, SD)


114 posted on 06/08/2005 8:55:49 AM PDT by Petronski (How do you solve a problem like Petronski?)
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To: SoothingDave

Nonsense.

I am still responsible for my actions.

Though my actions fall into God's plan, it isn't like I am a robot doing whatever he commands.

God doesn't command me to sin. I do that myself. I am responsible.


115 posted on 06/08/2005 8:56:52 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: rwfromkansas
Discussing God is one thing
Name calling and insults because I don't
agree with you is quite another. That's the way Democrats do things.
116 posted on 06/08/2005 8:58:27 AM PDT by WKB (A closed mind is a good thing to lose.)
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To: RnMomof7; Gamecock

come check this out...


117 posted on 06/08/2005 8:58:49 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: rwfromkansas

118 posted on 06/08/2005 8:59:17 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: rwfromkansas
You can believe in your weak begging dog who has to rely on us to somehow choose him . . .

Did you just refer to Almighty God as a weak begging dog?



Have a nice eternity!

119 posted on 06/08/2005 9:01:43 AM PDT by Petronski (How do you solve a problem like Petronski?)
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To: onyx

Now that's a good one


120 posted on 06/08/2005 9:05:19 AM PDT by WKB (A closed mind is a good thing to lose.)
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