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De-homosexualization of the Catholic Church
WorldNet Daily ^ | 5/2/2005

Posted on 05/02/2005 7:25:14 AM PDT by worldclass

Noting that in his Good Friday homily soon-to-be pope Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger condemned the "filth there is in the church," Wheeler believes the pontiff "will not tolerate [homosexuality's] presence in his church."

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To: BlackElk
1. Transitional papacy which slowed and then halted termite trends of "progress."

26 years is not a transition.

2. Named a college of cardinals which elected B-16.

I hope you are right on this one. But the jury is still out.

3. Suppressed the "liberation" theologians with the able assistance of Cardinals Ratzinger and Dario castrillon de Hoyos.

That's the minmum a pope should do. Anything less would, I imagine, be unacceptable to God.

4. Stripped Hans Kung of status as "Catholic" theologian.

See # 3.

5. Disciplined Edward Schillebecx, OP, for his deviations on theology.

See # 3.

6. Disciplined those who resisted papal authority over naming and consecrating of bishops. I really don't like to see people who are very much like me punished for bad tactics, but how else to vindicate the very necessary institution of papal authority. We suffered through John XXIII and Paul VI. We get to celebrate their successors.

See # 3.

7. Opened the door to a restoration of the Tridentine Mass with Ecclesia Dei.

The door was never shut.

8. Published the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

What was wrong with the previous one?

9. Performed brilliantly in concert with Ronaldus Maximus and the Iron Lady in laying waste to the soviet Empire.

What about consecrating Russia to the Immaculate heart of Mary as requested by Our Lady?

10. Was, by far, a more eloquent defender of innocent human life than any of his recent predecessors.

Not really fair to his predecessors since mass murdering of unborn children is a fairly recent phenomenom.

11. Engaged the enthusiasm of many young people who have acceopted Catholic standards of morality on life issues as a reslt.

I disagree. Exmaples, please.

12. Achieved an effective de facto alliance with Muslim and Third World nations in resistance to the United Nations and the Hildebeast on abortion at international conferences.

Effective in what way?

13. Answered Stalin's historic question: How many divisions has the pope?

What was the answer?

14. Has seen an uptick in orthodox Catholic priestly vocations whose lib-left mentors at seminaries endlessly whine about the orthodoxy of their students.

I have not witnessed this.

15. Labored under fiercely antagonistic circumstances from entrenched but rapidly aging Kumbayas and a militantly secular world, among, ummmm, other forces.

But did he win?

16. Was human and accomplished much but failed often enough to remind us that he was human.

Every pope to date has been human.

17. Showed us how to live.

Don't understand???

18. Showed us how to die.

Don't understand?

301 posted on 05/03/2005 8:08:17 AM PDT by Judica me
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To: AnAmericanMother

Her work in the Church will have its fruits, accruing both to her and her colleagues.

Maybe it's co-incidence, but the only child of ours who has given us more than a handful of trouble is the one who managed to evade any sort of volunteering in the Church.


302 posted on 05/03/2005 8:09:01 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: BlackElk
Finally, if you are worked up over the mistranslation of pro multis as for all instead of for many, this is no big deal.

No big deal to deliberately misquote Christ?

303 posted on 05/03/2005 8:10:19 AM PDT by Judica me
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To: Mershon
Again, you are counting infant baptisms in the total.

Read the USA TODAY article again. It says "converts coming into the Church this Easter." That means through the RCIA process. Infants do not come into the Church through the RCIA, so they are not included in the total.

Jones' numbers lowball the number of converts coming into the Church.

304 posted on 05/03/2005 8:10:38 AM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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To: Judica me; BlackElk

Evidently another has joined in the race with Warthog for "composition of the most contumacious claptrap of the day" award.


305 posted on 05/03/2005 8:11:39 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: Judica me

The Pope, Vicar of Christ and successor of Peter, personally signs off on the formulation of the Mass and all its contents/translations.

Feel free to deny his authority on the matter.


306 posted on 05/03/2005 8:13:06 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: ninenot
Our parish is pretty lavish with the incense. They fire up a pretty good size brick of charcoal and pour a coarse powder of incense liberally over it with a little gold spoon.

At Easter we had two thurifers so that one could keep the smoke going while the other slipped behind the roodscreen to recharge. They and the priest censed everything in sight thoroughly and repeatedly. There was a high wind on the evening of the Vigil Mass . . . had a little trouble making fire out front on the steps, then once it got going there was real danger of somebody catching on fire as the flames roared. It was great! Even us choristers up in the rear balcony were enveloped in the rising cloud of sandalwood and frankincense (at least that's what it smells like - is there an official formula?)

307 posted on 05/03/2005 8:13:36 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: BlackElk

A good list. I would expand a bit more on no. 17, "Showed us how to live." I believe John Paul was an inspiring example of personal sanctity, for some, the only such example they had ever been exposed to. This is why there was such a huge outpouring of emotion at his death, much to the consternation of our schismatic friends.


308 posted on 05/03/2005 8:14:56 AM PDT by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: ninenot
I have one of those too.

We're working on him - he is definitely a work in progress. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! I'm trying to lure him in through the Youth Group.

309 posted on 05/03/2005 8:15:13 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: ninenot; Wonder Warthog
Evidently another has joined in the race with Warthog for "composition of the most contumacious claptrap of the day" award.

re: Wonder Warthog. I think you are supposed to copy another poster if you mention them in a post.

310 posted on 05/03/2005 8:15:42 AM PDT by Judica me
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To: ninenot
The Pope, Vicar of Christ and successor of Peter, personally signs off on the formulation of the Mass and all its contents/translations.

Exactly. That is why I hold him responsible for bungling the translation of the Bible.

311 posted on 05/03/2005 8:17:04 AM PDT by Judica me
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To: worldclass
Great as JPII undoubtedly was, he was not nearly as strong as he should have been in rooting out this scandal. The delay in addressing it effectively has been devastating.

I don't blame him completely. As he got older and sicker, maybe some of his advisors tried to spare him anguish by not informing him of the extent of the problem.

What wasn't done before must be done now. Godspeed to Benedict XVI.

312 posted on 05/03/2005 8:20:07 AM PDT by shhrubbery! (The 'right to choose' = The right to choose death --for somebody else.)
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To: Judica me
>>>>>>>>13. Answered Stalin's historic question: How many divisions has the pope?

>>>>>>>>>What was the answer?

If you don't know the answer, I suggest a visit to Poland or any of the other nations that used to labor under Soviet tyranny and are now free. In fact, I suggest taking your disdain for John Paul to Krakow--perhaps advertise it at one of the typically packed Masses in Poland--and see how the locals react.

>>>>>>11. Engaged the enthusiasm of many young people who have acceopted Catholic standards of morality on life issues as a reslt.

>>>>>>>I disagree. Exmaples, please.

There was a New York Times article shortly after John Paul's death entitled "Young Catholics try to reclaim traditonal standards on sex," or something like it. It provided both anecdotal and statistical evidence that younger Catholics were more orthodox on matters of sexual morality, because of John Paul's teachings.

313 posted on 05/03/2005 8:20:16 AM PDT by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: AnAmericanMother
is there an official formula?

Possible. It wasn't covered in music Theory 101, nor Accounting...

314 posted on 05/03/2005 8:23:11 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: Thorin
In fact, I suggest taking your disdain for John Paul

What disdain? The fact that I don't hail him as one of the top three Popes in the history of the Church within 30 days after his death?

315 posted on 05/03/2005 8:23:31 AM PDT by Judica me
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To: Mershon
The Church was growing exponentially when the sacraments were given in Latin.

The Church is growing exponentially now, with the sacraments in the vernacular.

Latin is not something magical, Mershon. You seem to assert that the entire future of the Catholic Church hinges on a return to Latin in the liturgy. That's absurd on its face.

316 posted on 05/03/2005 8:23:47 AM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Prayer.


317 posted on 05/03/2005 8:23:53 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: Judica me
That is why I hold him responsible for bungling the translation of the Bible

QED. Bye!

318 posted on 05/03/2005 8:25:07 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: ninenot
QED.

Translation, please?

319 posted on 05/03/2005 8:27:49 AM PDT by Judica me
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To: worldclass; TonyRo76; redgolum
We poor ELCA Lutherans have no Ratzingers, and are being eaten alive by the feminazis and their sodomite "pets".

Pray for us!!!!

320 posted on 05/03/2005 8:28:35 AM PDT by Honorary Serb (Hristos voskrese!)
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