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To: BlackElk
1. Transitional papacy which slowed and then halted termite trends of "progress."

26 years is not a transition.

2. Named a college of cardinals which elected B-16.

I hope you are right on this one. But the jury is still out.

3. Suppressed the "liberation" theologians with the able assistance of Cardinals Ratzinger and Dario castrillon de Hoyos.

That's the minmum a pope should do. Anything less would, I imagine, be unacceptable to God.

4. Stripped Hans Kung of status as "Catholic" theologian.

See # 3.

5. Disciplined Edward Schillebecx, OP, for his deviations on theology.

See # 3.

6. Disciplined those who resisted papal authority over naming and consecrating of bishops. I really don't like to see people who are very much like me punished for bad tactics, but how else to vindicate the very necessary institution of papal authority. We suffered through John XXIII and Paul VI. We get to celebrate their successors.

See # 3.

7. Opened the door to a restoration of the Tridentine Mass with Ecclesia Dei.

The door was never shut.

8. Published the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

What was wrong with the previous one?

9. Performed brilliantly in concert with Ronaldus Maximus and the Iron Lady in laying waste to the soviet Empire.

What about consecrating Russia to the Immaculate heart of Mary as requested by Our Lady?

10. Was, by far, a more eloquent defender of innocent human life than any of his recent predecessors.

Not really fair to his predecessors since mass murdering of unborn children is a fairly recent phenomenom.

11. Engaged the enthusiasm of many young people who have acceopted Catholic standards of morality on life issues as a reslt.

I disagree. Exmaples, please.

12. Achieved an effective de facto alliance with Muslim and Third World nations in resistance to the United Nations and the Hildebeast on abortion at international conferences.

Effective in what way?

13. Answered Stalin's historic question: How many divisions has the pope?

What was the answer?

14. Has seen an uptick in orthodox Catholic priestly vocations whose lib-left mentors at seminaries endlessly whine about the orthodoxy of their students.

I have not witnessed this.

15. Labored under fiercely antagonistic circumstances from entrenched but rapidly aging Kumbayas and a militantly secular world, among, ummmm, other forces.

But did he win?

16. Was human and accomplished much but failed often enough to remind us that he was human.

Every pope to date has been human.

17. Showed us how to live.

Don't understand???

18. Showed us how to die.

Don't understand?

301 posted on 05/03/2005 8:08:17 AM PDT by Judica me
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To: Judica me; BlackElk

Evidently another has joined in the race with Warthog for "composition of the most contumacious claptrap of the day" award.


305 posted on 05/03/2005 8:11:39 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: Judica me
>>>>>>>>13. Answered Stalin's historic question: How many divisions has the pope?

>>>>>>>>>What was the answer?

If you don't know the answer, I suggest a visit to Poland or any of the other nations that used to labor under Soviet tyranny and are now free. In fact, I suggest taking your disdain for John Paul to Krakow--perhaps advertise it at one of the typically packed Masses in Poland--and see how the locals react.

>>>>>>11. Engaged the enthusiasm of many young people who have acceopted Catholic standards of morality on life issues as a reslt.

>>>>>>>I disagree. Exmaples, please.

There was a New York Times article shortly after John Paul's death entitled "Young Catholics try to reclaim traditonal standards on sex," or something like it. It provided both anecdotal and statistical evidence that younger Catholics were more orthodox on matters of sexual morality, because of John Paul's teachings.

313 posted on 05/03/2005 8:20:16 AM PDT by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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