TERRI SCHIAVO DAILY MARCH 2005 PART 6- NO FOOD OR WATER IN THE 6TH-7TH DAYS - GOOD FRIDAY

various | 3-24-05

[STARWISE]

Judge George Greer ruled that the State of Florida has no right to take custody of Terri Schiavo, which ruling came hours after an appeal by Terri's parents to re-insert the feeding tube was refused by the U.S. Supreme Court.

Meanwhile, another hearing was scheduled tonight before US District Judge James D. Whittemore .. the same judge who previously heard and denied the request subsequent to the 'de novo' intention of the law past last weekend by the Congress and signed by President Bush, in an effort to confirm that no stone was left unturned before Terri would endure legally sanctioned dehydration until death.

[Abby4116]

Great job Pattyjo.

[TAdams8591]

WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE???

I have replied to these people upon occasion, when I saw fit, and will continue to do so.

[SvdByFaith]

I feel the same way. My concern is that the death-camp agenda people slipped in under the radar because people just don't want to believe that it could happen here in America. They can't make the connections, and when people try to give them a head-start, they roll their collective eyes and call us weirdos.

Since when are we the weirdos when Felos is telling people he's a god and is psychic?

They've already infiltrated our schools and will be raising up the next generation of pro-death judges, lawyers, teachers, and heaven forbid, presidents.

God help us all! Please be with Terri and her family as they suffer under these people! Open the eyes of the blinded so they may see the truth and know the enemy!

[Halls]

Exactly my thoughts! I just made the call to DCFS in Florida! My God people, JEB has washed has hands of this! May God have mercy on us all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Halls]

I will never trust any leader again! I only trust Christ and I can't believe this is happenin! I can't believing I'm witnessing this in our history! I can't believe it! I can't believe it!

[utahagen]

You asked: "What I think you're saying (correct me if I'm wrong) is that Terri wouldn't have wanted her parents to see her dying. Wouldn't that also apply to removal of a ventilator, if she were dependent on one?" What I mean is that Terri (or anyone contemplating end-of-life issues) should answer a series of questions, one of which concerns whether they accept that their families will have to witness the physical effects of the ill or dying person's choices. (Yes, you are accurate that this would be the case with respirators and the like, as well.) I believe writing a living will and having it witnessed brings home to the person what could be the ramifications of end-of-life choices. Given that dying of starvation and dehydration is a long and gruesome (at least to witness) process, compared to watching someone die within minutes of a ventilator being turned off, verbal remarks alone should not be controlling. I happen to think that Terri, if she were asked if she would want to have water and nutrition cut off over her parents' anguished objections, would have drawn the line at respirators and the like. But I swear to you -- please believe I mean this -- I am not crafting an argument out of sympathy for Terri's parents (although I surely do have sympathy for them). If Terri had draft a living will that specifically spelled out hydration and nutrition (as opposed to "life support"), I would sadly agree that her wishes should be controlling. But I find unpersuasive the evidence that Terri thoughtfully considered the possibility she would be in a near or actual PVS, and that she would want to be deprived of food and hydration in such a state. Where there is doubt about this, the assumption should be that the person would not want to be dehydrated and starved to death.

[SvdByFaith]

I second that!

[Velveeta]

Most people at 20 years of age, don't even know that there IS such a thing as a g-tube/feeding tube.

[MJM59]

I wonder if there would be this much of a fuss if she were a lesbian or a Muslim??

[nicmarlo]

If Terri had draft a living will that specifically spelled out hydration and nutrition (as opposed to "life support"), I would sadly agree that her wishes should be controlling.

Had Terri had such a document in hand, before 2000, it was considered a FELONY. That kind of document may not have even LEGALLY passed muster, as I strongly doubt that any attorney would draw up a document that would allow future ILLEGAL acts to be sworn to.

[Tarantulas]

My biggest concern: since when is food and water considered treatment?

Under Florida law, the feeding tube is in the same category as a "breathing tube" or ventilator:

(10) "Life-prolonging procedure" means any medical procedure, treatment, or intervention, including artificially provided sustenance and hydration, which sustains, restores, or supplants a spontaneous vital function. The term does not include the administration of medication or performance of medical procedure, when such medication or procedure is deemed necessary to provide comfort care or to alleviate pain.

Reference

[Tree of Liberty]

That change was made in '99, I believe, and that Felos was a major proponent of the alteration.

[MarMema]

for anyone I missed, a Hugh Finn story

[Tarantulas]

So if a person signs a living will, says he/she does not want tubes, oxygen, etc. The tube is removed, oxygen is removed, the woman sits up in the hospital bed and says "I'm hungry"

Should food be brought to her?

Yes. I guess I don't really understand your question because it doesn't seem to apply to the current case.

[utahagen]

Good point, but I was trying to make the point that even people who have no problem with euthanasia, for example, should demand that the person's wishes be specific and in writing. I think many people on the Michael Schaivo side of this argument are knee-jerk supporting Michael out of defense of the principal that "you should be able to do whatever you want with your own body". Even those who believe this should demand that the standard for determining a person's wishes be very high, given the stakes.

[DJ MacWoW]

It was signed into law in 99.

Senate 2228: Relating to End-of-life Care

Notice it applys to "End of Life Care".

[Velveeta]

Indeed the young ones understand.

I see that another 10 year old was arrested at the hospice today.

His name is Joshua.

God bless his brave heart.

[LauraJean]

I just got off the phone with Sean Hannity's producer and told her how if the FBI started an RICO investigation Terri could be taken into custody as a material witness. She listened to me and told me she would convey the idea to Sean.
Keep praying kids it ain't over till the fat lady sings.

[Faith]

The groups protected by political correctness would have had no trouble keeping her alive.

[Mudboy Slim]

Prayers fer Terri...MUD