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Why I Am a Liberal (Not trolling - Jist food for thought)
useless knowledge ^ | Warren C. Norwood

Posted on 02/18/2005 2:52:25 PM PST by loe joe

Some of my friends, family members, and co-workers wonder how I could be a political liberal in the midst of this new swell of conservatism the United States. The answers to that are all too simple.

I am a liberal because the system originated by liberals called Social Security has made my parents' retirement more possible and comfortable than it would otherwise have been.

I am a liberal because the system originated by liberals called Medicare paid for my mother to have two knees and a hip replaced at a cost that otherwise could not have been born by all of her children together.

I am a liberal because Medicare paid for my father's operation to remove a cancerous kidney at a cost that would otherwise certainly have forced my parents to liquidate their assets.

I am a liberal because that system originated by liberals called WIC gives my daughter food stamps for cheese and milk and other necessities she needs to feed her children.

I am a liberal because that system demanded by liberals called company-paid employee medical insurance helps pay doctor bills for me and my wife and my daughter and son-in-law and grandchildren and sister and most of my other close relatives.

I am a liberal because the idea of autonomy of the individual is a liberal idea.

I am a liberal because the idea of political liberty is a liberal idea.

I am a liberal because government by the consent of the governed is a liberal idea.

I am a liberal because the Bill of Rights is a set of liberal ideas which protect us all. Freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom of worship, freedom of the press, due process of law, freedom from torture, the right to face our accusers, the writ of habeas corpus, and freedom from unreasonable search and seizure are all liberal ideas. Most people in the world do not have those rights.

I am a liberal because those liberal ideas in our Constitution give us control of our representatives from the school board to the Senate and President of the United States, give us the liberal idea of checks and balances, and the liberal idea of no taxation without representation.

I am a liberal because the idea of public education is a liberal idea.

I am a liberal because the idea of a five day work week is a liberal idea.

I am a liberal because the idea of a strong, well funded and disciplined military under civilian control is a liberal idea, as is the notion of Veteran's benefits and military retirement.

I am a liberal because the Geneva Conventions are a liberal idea. The conventions protect American prisoners and all prisoners of signees from torture and abuse.

I am a liberal because the idea of the public maintenance of roads is a liberal idea.

I am a liberal because civil rights, children's rights, women's rights, and labor rights, are all liberal ideas.

I am a liberal because almost all the progressive ideas of the last four centuries have been liberal ideas resisted by the conservatives of their times. Those liberal ideas make this a better place to live for me, my family, my friends, my community, my country, and my world.

I ask people who insist on repudiating liberalism to please check off the liberal ideas above they are ready to do without.


TOPICS: Philosophy
KEYWORDS: gimme; iloveche; inbeforethezot; kittychow; mentalillness; newbie; roadapples; troll; wantsfreestuff; whiner; willworkforjist; zot
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
troll stomp kata
101 posted on 02/18/2005 3:13:07 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: loe joe; cyborg; MeekOneGOP; dead; KoRn; Mo1; MEG33

Welcome to FR, newbie! This is not a new laundry list you've just shared with us.

One FReeper tagline says, approximately: "Liberals lie at the premise. Grant them that and you lose the real argument."

Let's grant for the moment that you are not lying and trolling, but are sincere. You've copied us on this old email that tries to give Constitutional credence to modern usage of the term "Liberal." Much more important: what's your personal position on concealed carry weapons for self defense, on traditional marriage and on the death penalty for child molesters? That's what we'd like to know, as a fine howdy-do....

Never mind the Ides of March, beware of kitties with Viking Helmets....


102 posted on 02/18/2005 3:13:43 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (ATTN. MARXIST RED MSM: I RESENT your "RED STATE" switcheroo using our ELECTORAL MAP as PROPAGANDA!)
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To: loe joe
Well, actually you are a "liberal" because you believe in wealth re-distribution. I suspect this is because you believe economic transactions are typically zero-sum. I'd also guess you believe the slogan "the rich get richer while the poor get poorer"

BTW, Civil Rights were conservative issues until about 1967 when the movement ceased to be about rights but race based entitlements (see wealth redistribution). Remember the GOP was founded by Anti-Slavery Democrats. Abolition was the sole purpose of it's existence. This was carried through to the 1964 civil rights act, which owes it's existence to conservatives.

BTW, you'll find most conservatives believe liberals are inherently racist. I agree with this.

103 posted on 02/18/2005 3:13:53 PM PST by Dead Dog (T)
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To: John Lenin

Don't think so. Bush is liberalism lite aka compassionate conservatism.


104 posted on 02/18/2005 3:14:03 PM PST by Arkie2
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To: jdm

I think "me and my wife" is correct in this case. Don't hit me.


105 posted on 02/18/2005 3:14:05 PM PST by stayathomemom
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To: ChewedGum
This liberal jerkoff uses the word "me" way too much. "It's all about "me, me, me, meeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!" What a waste of space.
106 posted on 02/18/2005 3:14:05 PM PST by jdm (Stockhausen, Kagel, Xenakis -- world capitals or avant-garde composers?)
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To: loe joe
I am a liberal because the system originated by liberals called Social Security has made my parents' retirement more possible and comfortable than it would otherwise have been.

I stopped reading right here. If her parents had been able to invest the money instead of it going to SS, isn't it possible they would be far better off? I think we all know the answer to THAT question. Based on everyone else's comments, the rest was just entitlement twaddle.

107 posted on 02/18/2005 3:14:35 PM PST by Disambiguator (Pi$$ off a liberal nanny-statist hoplophobe; buy a .50 BMG!)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
zot!
108 posted on 02/18/2005 3:14:35 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: loe joe; Knitting A Conundrum; Gewittermädchen; 4mycountry; TheBigB; VRWCmember; ...


Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my Viking Kitty/ZOT ping list!. . .don't be shy.


109 posted on 02/18/2005 3:16:02 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: loe joe
I am a conservative because I can take care of myself, thank you very much.

Now shut the hell up, and you and your family please remove yourself from my wallet.
110 posted on 02/18/2005 3:16:03 PM PST by teenyelliott (Soilent green is made of liberals...)
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To: loe joe
Its so simple

Allowing people to invest their money into the stock market for Social Security
is a great idea.

Not only is there a better return than 2% that the government provides but it
also provides a means by which the government can reduce the deficit.

Here's how it will reduce the deficit: As the stock market grows as a result of
the increased influx of investment money, so does the economy, and when the
economy grows so does the amount of taxes businesses pay the government, which
reduces the deficit.

Everyone wins even liberals that complain about the deficit.

Problem with Democrats and liberals is Social Security is no longer the third rail. They have no new ideas even though they love to call themselves progressives.
111 posted on 02/18/2005 3:16:46 PM PST by april15Bendovr
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To: stayathomemom
"I think "me and my wife" is correct in this case. Don't hit me."

I'm not a betting man, but I'm sticking with "my wife and I."
112 posted on 02/18/2005 3:16:47 PM PST by jdm (Stockhausen, Kagel, Xenakis -- world capitals or avant-garde composers?)
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To: Arkie2

Bush is so liberal he wants to cut government programs. Name on RAT that will even dream of doing that ?


113 posted on 02/18/2005 3:16:54 PM PST by John Lenin (Just because they smile when they see you doesn't mean they like you)
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To: loe joe
I am a liberal because civil rights, children's rights, women's rights, and labor rights, are all liberal ideas.

See:

George Wallace (D)
Lester Maddux (D)
Orval Faubus (D)
Robert Byrd (D)
Al Gore, Sr. (D)

All giants in the fight for against civil rights.

114 posted on 02/18/2005 3:16:57 PM PST by Bob
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To: loe joe
<

I want a ball
I want a party
Pink macaroons and a million balloons
And performing baboons and ...
Give it to me
Rrhh rhhh
Now!

I want the world
I want the whole world
I want to lock it all up in my pocket
It's my bar of chocolate
Give it to me
Now!

I want today
I want tomorrow
I want to wear 'em like braids in my hair
And I don't want to share 'em

I want a party with room fulls of laughter
Ten thousand tons of ice cream
And if I don't get the things I am after
I'm going to scream!

I want the works
I want the whole works
Presents and prizes and sweets and surprises
Of all shapes and sizes
And now
Don't care how
I want it now
Don't care how
I want it now

115 posted on 02/18/2005 3:17:12 PM PST by itsamelman (“Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh.” -- Al Swearengen)
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To: loe joe

Welcome to FR
Having fun yet?


116 posted on 02/18/2005 3:17:19 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator
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To: loe joe; Sean Hannity

See how nice we are Sean. 100 posts and no zot!


117 posted on 02/18/2005 3:18:04 PM PST by CAluvdubya (From the RED part of California)
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To: finnman69
I am a liberal because the idea of the public maintenance of roads is a liberal idea.

Are you saying that Ike was a liberal?

118 posted on 02/18/2005 3:18:12 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Apparently, this is the only job for which I am suited. I am beset by the ironies of my life)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
Zot!
119 posted on 02/18/2005 3:18:17 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: teenyelliott
Now shut the hell up, and you and your family please remove yourself from my wallet.

ROTFLMAO

120 posted on 02/18/2005 3:18:26 PM PST by Gewittermädchen (The best minds are not in government...Ronald Reagan)
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