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Archeologists discover St. Paul's tomb
Catholic World News ^ | Feb 17, 2005 | unknown

Posted on 02/17/2005 12:58:57 PM PST by Mike Fieschko

Rome, Feb. 17 (CWNews.com) - Vatican archeologists believe that they have identified the tomb of St. Paul in the Roman basilica that bears his name.

A sarcophagus which may contain the remains of St. Paul was identified in the basilica of St. Paul Outside the Walls, reports Giorgio Filippi, a archeology specialist with the Vatican Museums. The sarcophagus was discovered during the excavations carried out in 2002 and 2003 around the basilica, which is located in the south of Rome. Having reached what they believe is a positive identification of the tomb, Vatican experts will soon make a public announcement of their discovery.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: archaeology; archeology; discovery; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history; morelies; rome; stpaul; tomb; vatican
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To: rwfromkansas

"I certainly am no expert."

Perhaps there's less to dislike in Catholicism than one might think, if one seriously looks into it.


201 posted on 02/18/2005 7:58:16 PM PST by dsc
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To: eleni121

Yes, I did know that.

Simply updated the name to make it recognizable.

I probably wouldn't use Nubia, Idumea, Parthia, etc. for the same reason unless something in the discussion required it.


202 posted on 02/18/2005 8:38:10 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of it!)
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To: Right Wing Professor

No, the Church would not allow that, just as it cannot permit willful desecration for the sake of curiosity.

But you can see here how the mind of a non-Catholic thinks. There is this material thing here, and it belongs in a grave, and it's gross, so only someone really gross would want to touch it or look at it or move it or talk about it, unless, of course, there is some materialistic (scientific) motive. Therefore Catholics are morbid and gross. Period. Let's talk about something else. All of this precludes the reality of the spirit world. The Catholic interest in the relics of the saints has nothing to do with any such material or scientific basis, but is firmly rooted in the tradition handed down to us from apostolic times, beginning with the martyrdom of St. Stephen, whose mention is appropriate, for he was slain by stoning under the supervision of the same man with whom we are concerned in this thread. In the traditional calendar there is a feast day for the finding of the body of St. Stephen. The first Masses were said over the remains of such martyrs in the Catacombs, and even today the altar stones required for Mass contain a particular arrangement of the various relics of saints, all based on that tradition. As an "ex-Catholic" you ought to know all this. Which reminds me, when was the last time you attended a Traditional Latin Mass?

If anyone has any doubts about how objectively important the physical remains of the saints are, I would ask them to then please explain how satanists or witches are almost always able to tell from a distance the location of relics, and sometimes even the identity of the saint. One thing is certain: in exorcisms, the devil can be commanded to say whose relics are present, and therefore the devil always knows. But being a liar from the beginning, if you ask him (outside of the exorcism's binding venue) he would likely deny it.


203 posted on 02/18/2005 9:52:24 PM PST by donbosco74 ("Men and devils make war on me in this great city." (Paris) --St. Louis-Marie Grignion de Montfort)
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To: stockpirate

Jesus was not a Christian? You must not be talking about Jesus Christ, right? Some other Jesus?


204 posted on 02/18/2005 9:56:39 PM PST by donbosco74 ("Men and devils make war on me in this great city." (Paris) --St. Louis-Marie Grignion de Montfort)
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To: donbosco74

Yes, I am talking about Jesus Christ, he was a jew, not a Christian! Didn't you know that, it is in "all" the books?


205 posted on 02/19/2005 3:46:31 AM PST by stockpirate (Kerry & Democrats; supported, financed, trained, guided, revered, in favor of, Communists.)
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To: stockpirate

You've been reading (and believing!) the wrong books, buddy. If Jesus wasn't the first Christian, then there are none in truth. Tell me, do you believe Jesus Christ is God?


206 posted on 02/19/2005 7:16:53 AM PST by donbosco74 ("Men and devils make war on me in this great city." (Paris) --St. Louis-Marie Grignion de Montfort)
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To: donbosco74

Jesus Christ was "NOT" the first Christian. A Christian is by defined as someone that is a follower of Jesus Christ. Jesus was not following himself, but his father that sent him. It was only after his death did the term Christian come about.


207 posted on 02/19/2005 8:33:38 AM PST by stockpirate (Kerry & Democrats; supported, financed, trained, guided, revered, in favor of, Communists.)
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To: donbosco74

Jesus Christ was "NOT" the first Christian. A Christian is by defined as someone that is a follower of Jesus Christ. Jesus was not following himself, but his father that sent him. It was only after his death did the term Christian come about.


208 posted on 02/19/2005 8:33:42 AM PST by stockpirate (Kerry & Democrats; supported, financed, trained, guided, revered, in favor of, Communists.)
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To: stockpirate

Okay, so you don't speak English well. I'm okay with that. But when it comes to Christianity, you, who are apparently not one, should not be telling one who is what one is.

Who is it, perchance, that you have established as your source for the "is by defined as" to which you refer?

Incidentally, my original question still stands, to wit: Do you or do you not accept the divinity of Jesus?


209 posted on 02/19/2005 10:37:33 AM PST by donbosco74 ("Men and devils make war on me in this great city." (Paris) --St. Louis-Marie Grignion de Montfort)
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To: donbosco74

I speak English fine, I just don't type well without my glasses on.

I, who am a Christian, do not think Jesus was a Christian, which is a follower of Christ. But I am certain he was a Jew! The "Christ" is the Saviour, and the sacrifice had not been made, therefore Jesus could not be a Christian because he was not yet prefected, (prefect) if you will.

So in order for him to have been a Christian it would mean he was following himself, which I think you will even agree at that point he was not doing, else why pray to his father to take this cup from him?

I can understand that you may not be able to follow this line of thought for whatever reason as it does require one to do more than just react to dogma that has been fed to the masses for years.

My question to you would be, "Do you believe that there is a Trinity or is all the Godhead manifested in Jesus?"


210 posted on 02/19/2005 1:43:19 PM PST by stockpirate (Kerry & Democrats; supported, financed, trained, guided, revered, in favor of, Communists.)
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To: Popman
This accusation did not come from the homosexual agenda community. I was from a conservative scholar many many years ago when the phrase "gay" still meant happy and celebratory...........
211 posted on 02/21/2005 5:04:56 AM PST by Red Badger (I call her GODZILLARY because she went to NYC and made her nest there, too.........)
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To: madison10; Popman

http://www.beliefnet.com/story/142/story_14299.html


212 posted on 02/21/2005 5:09:33 AM PST by Red Badger (I call her GODZILLARY because she went to NYC and made her nest there, too.........)
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