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A liberal - To the Republican community. Should we leave? [too DUmb to ZOT]

Posted on 02/13/2005 2:00:25 AM PST by The_Liberal Person

A liberal - To the Republican community.

1. What are your goals as Republicans?

2. Is your goal to make Liberals to leave America?

3. If you want us to stay, when does this country go too far to the right?

4. If you want us to leave, will the US government pay for our plane tickets?


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To: .38sw

Somehow, through mental machinations that evade my understanding, we are to blame for those poor choices.


321 posted on 02/13/2005 1:38:59 PM PST by pharmamom (Ping me, Baby.)
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To: The_Liberal Person
Segregation. Sexism, Racism.

Segregation is practically non-existent now; racism is at an all-time low. Sexism - whatever. All of these were much more problematic in the 50's, yet we didn't have the kind of behavior you see in the black community now. Why? The family was intact. Black businesses thrived. Illegitimate births were much lower than they are today. Black churches formed the backbone of the community. What happened? LBJ and the Great Society. Liberals tore the black family apart with social programs. You broke it. You fix it.

322 posted on 02/13/2005 1:45:05 PM PST by pharmamom (Ping me, Baby.)
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To: Dustbunny
What is a ZOT ?

It's the planet King Klobber rules. He tries to kidnap Underdog to marry his daughter, Princess Glissando, because no man of Zot is worthy of her.

But Underdog fights back and goes back to earth so King Klobber kidnaps Sweet Polly Purebred and holds her hostage until Underdog agrees to marry Princess Glissando.

When the Zotians fight, its called Zotting because their arms extend out of their sockets to Zot! their opponent.

This is basic American history, people!

323 posted on 02/13/2005 2:02:15 PM PST by Duke Nukum (King had to write, to sing the song of Gan. And I had to read. How else could Roland find the Tower?)
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To: mhking
You need the pumpkin catapult. I pinged you to #167. Sorry for the confusion.
324 posted on 02/13/2005 2:05:18 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: The_Liberal Person

325 posted on 02/13/2005 2:13:18 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: The_Liberal Person
Response from a Black Non-Liberal:

1. To make the system more equitable, but that means everybody having choice. Spend our tax money wisely. Etc...

2. Grow up. Life is transitory. We didn't tell you to leave. So-called celebrities said that. And none of them have left. I never heard one Republican say they would leave the US if Kerry was elected. Life comes and goes. Things change, leaders change, sometimes better, sometimes worse. You learn to deal with it. My people went through more pain in this nation than Liberals can ever imagine, and we still stayed here and fought for her. This our home.

3. When we all lose control over our personal lives and decisions. Then I'll be right alng side you fighting to get that freedom back.

4. No. The choice is yours. YOU always have a choice.

326 posted on 02/13/2005 2:19:05 PM PST by Clock King
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To: Duke Nukum

ROFLOL....... Thank you


327 posted on 02/13/2005 2:23:31 PM PST by Dustbunny (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist)
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To: The_Liberal Person
Anyway I feel like I'm wasting my effort here.

Ah, the kiss-off.

"You people are too extreme to carry on a civil conversation. I have to get back to the warm embrace of my liberal socialist progressive brothers and sisters..."


CYA

(wouldn't wanna be ya ;'}
328 posted on 02/13/2005 3:04:02 PM PST by rockrr (Revote or Revolt! It's up to you Washington!)
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To: The_Liberal Person

1. What are your goals as Republicans?
Answer: Try to convince the government that Utopia cannot be obtained no matter how much money they spend. Which amount can only be described by using the word "obscene."

2. Is your goal to make Liberals to leave America?
Answer: No, because we need liberals so we can make an example of them. Their positions are over the long term untenable. Plus, we cannot make you leave, can we? Many liberals have threatened to leave, but we are still waiting for them to follow through with this. Alec Baldwin et al. And might I add that, although the eight years of Clinton were a wasted eight years, it never entered my mind to leave the country. What - and leave a good fight? But just the fact that liberals would consider doing this shows that they are a pretty weak bunch.

3. If you want us to stay, when does this country go too far to the right?
Answer: It is really difficult to go to far to the right in this country. After government gets pared down to sanity, abortion is outlawed, government schools are no longer atheistic/socialistic institutions, and so forth, then we can discuss this further. But with that said, please do not confuse being a Republican with being a Conservative, which is what I am. Republicans and Democrats have their differences, but Republicans are still leading us down the road to Socialism. Albeit at a slower pace.

4. If you want us to leave, will the US government pay for our plane tickets?
Answer: You are probably not kidding about this, because liberals' religion is government. And they seemingly cannot get by without government being intimately and intricately involved in everything they do or want to do. So my answer is: "No!"

Have a great day!


329 posted on 02/13/2005 3:16:33 PM PST by DennisR (Look around - there are countless observable clues that God exists)
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To: The_Liberal Person
I'm glad that you chose to respond. What are some of your other questions


330 posted on 02/13/2005 4:04:20 PM PST by scott0347 (Commander of the 0347th Lancer Brigade, Operator of the Immaculate Steamroller)
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To: SirLurkedalot

and go and ruin some other country.


331 posted on 02/13/2005 4:08:01 PM PST by mulligan
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To: Berlin_Freeper; marmar; Old Sarge; Conspiracy Guy; MeekOneGOP; Fedora; Slings and Arrows; ...
This thread is idiotic.

Es ist zu laut. Bei wem kann ich mich beschweren?

332 posted on 02/13/2005 4:21:50 PM PST by bad company (There can be no freedom without right and wrong.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Greetings.


333 posted on 02/13/2005 4:24:44 PM PST by Darksheare (Red Sun rising, Drown without inhaling. Within, the dark holds hard. Higher than hope my cure lies.)
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To: The_Liberal Person
I don't know if you read my post (#115) but I hope you did. However, you said something in your post #167 that I am compelled to address.

When Americans are more educated than the rest of the world it makes our country stronger.

When I went to school NO other nation could could even approach the U.S.A. in education. All schools simply followed guidelines set forth by the government, but communities, cities and states set the agenda.

There was NO unionization of teachers, the cities could fire bad teachers and hire good ones.

But that wasn't good enough for the Democrats, some small communities/cities couldn't pay teachers as well as large cities, thus the NEA was born. A union to "protect" teachers that has become a slobbering behemoth of control in every phase of todays "education." From the elimination of a simple prayer to YOUR God, to slow elimination of keeping score in games, or spelling bees.

This is dumbing down our children. Look where the U.S.A. stands today. By your own admission education sucks!

You want better education? Tell your leaders, Kennedy, Pelosi and the rest to get out of the way! Let YOU and your neighbors control the schools. Tell the NEA to leave your community and let YOU handle education.

Then tell your teachers to teach the three Rs, and stop the "feel good" political correct nonsense.

Life does NOT echo PC, life it is tough.

I could go on, but I'm tired after a long day at work, and I want to see if you will respond to this.

334 posted on 02/13/2005 4:33:15 PM PST by Budge (<>< Sit Nomen Domini benedictum. <><)
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To: The_Liberal Person
We don't really care HOW you make everyone a winner as long as we all win.

Son, you are already a winner by having been born in this nation!

Or did I just ass-u-me too much?

335 posted on 02/13/2005 4:49:50 PM PST by Budge (<>< Sit Nomen Domini benedictum. <><)
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To: The_Liberal Person
I grew up poor, in fact I still am, and the liberals are offering to help me out of poverty

No they arent. They are offering to make you permanently dependent on the money forcefully taken from those who have done for themselves. You will NOT be lifted from poverty due to any socialist program.

336 posted on 02/13/2005 4:52:27 PM PST by SwankyC
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To: The_Liberal Person
All we want is for you liberals to get a clue about reality. Help us make America better instead of spending all your time telling us how bad America is.

But your side needs to step up to the plate, offer constructive suggestions, and help out.

Hint: Filbusters and obstructionism are not helpful.

337 posted on 02/13/2005 4:55:37 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: ex-Libertarian

Standing ovation here.

If he/she can't comprehend what you said here, there really is no point trying to explain it further.


338 posted on 02/13/2005 5:10:03 PM PST by Big Giant Head (Barring all differences, they're identical.)
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To: The_Liberal Person
WE'RE ANGRY? How about Dean, who says he "hates" Republicans?

You know, I have one Democratic relative, and he frequently makes cracks about the President. I say nothing. I'm beginning to think about saying some things to him, in polite and reasonable manner, because I think maybe he truly wants to understand why I feel the way I do.

I think that perhaps you are honestly asking these questions, and besides a few wisecracks (which is another conservative characteristic, humor without too much nastiness) I think you'll get answers.

Most Republicans are conservatives at heart. That means, we believe the marketplace will control what succeeds and what fails.

One of your questions was about the public school system. When an entire institutionalized entity is run by the government, it generally costs more, is more bureaucratic, has more smothering regulations and does a poorer job than if the entity were privately run and owned.

Example: Lots of people here have their chldren in private schools, and not necessarily expensive ones. I have my child in one, and the cost is about $3400 per year. That's far less than the state pays into the public school system for a child this age, and the private school is doing a much better job.

Now, not everyone can afford this amount ($3400) but they could if the government issued vouchers which could be used at either private or public school. Can you imagine the exodus from the failing public schools if an inner city mom could take her son from a drug/gang/crime/fear infested inner-city school and send him to a small suburban private school? If this mass exodus occured, public schools would be forced to improve, and that's where the marketplace mentality comes in. An improved public school system would keep more students, etc., etc. As it is now, they have no incentive. They just keep asking for more $$.

Another point about schools and a question for you: Why do teachers in public schools find it necessary to indoctrinate children in socialist ideology? Why do they find it necessary to teach our children that our values (God, family, patriotism) are warped, and their values (blame America for every ill in the world, our founding fathers were pigs, life is not sacred, marriage is not sacred, etc.) are right and good?

The democratic party is all about "choice" until it involves choices that take away some of their power, such as school vouchers, taking a tiny fraction of the taxes we pay and investing them in a personally controlled inheritable fund (one we can pass to our surviving spouse or child).

Republicans generally believe that traditional family unit (which has served Western Civilization well for millenia) is the best environment for producing stable adults who will go on to raise other stable adults. Democrats seem to want to change this, and that, frankly scares many conservatives because of the future ramifications for our children. Take a look at some of the European (Scandinavian) nations which have implemented these changes -- most of the children are born out of wedlock.

Going back to my relative. Here's what I will say.

When I think of the Democratic party, I have these characteristics in mind:

A refusal to honestly discuss issues that might be best for the country in the long run, such as reforming social security before a crisis is reached, and I think this is because they want to retain the power to scare the elderly EVERY ELECTION CYCLE WITH THE SAME OLD DIATRIBE -- THE REPUBLICANS WANT YOU TO STARVE TO DEATH!

I also think of Democrats as the party of partial birth abortion, gay marriage and capitulation to our enemies.

I think of liberals as people who might have good intentions, i.e. caring about the poor, but not seeing that feeling sorry for the poor will not help the poor. What will help the poor is opportunity -- opportunity to own their own businesses, to find good jobs because businesses can afford to create good jobs because they are free from crushing regulations.

Finally, I don't think Republicans/conservatives hate liberals. We just pretty much want to be left alone -- we want to keep the money we make, we want to protect the smallest of the innocent, the unborn (which have their own DNA, by the way, just thought I'd throw that in) and to raise our families the way we want, in safety, and to be able to teach our children our values (respect for others, life is precious, marriage is good, our country is good -- 30 million illegal aliens can't be wrong!) without the thought police coming along and telling us our values are all wrong.

339 posted on 02/13/2005 6:35:18 PM PST by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch (THANK YOU LORD -- John Kerry is still just a senator.)
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To: mulligan

LOL No kidding...if they don't toss his sorry ass in the memory hole first like a real police state would.


340 posted on 02/14/2005 12:58:04 AM PST by SirLurkedalot (I'm back...with NEW and IMPROVED knuckle-dragging action.)
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