Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

It's baaaaack...
1 posted on 01/26/2005 7:31:12 PM PST by ArcLight
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-22 next last
To: ArcLight
1,300 and 3,000 years old.

Interesting.

2 posted on 01/26/2005 7:33:55 PM PST by rdl6989
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Victoria Delsoul

Shroud of Turin ping.


3 posted on 01/26/2005 7:35:38 PM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm not expecting to grow flowers in the desert.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: ArcLight

The 1988 tests were discredited long ago. The "scientists" who performed them turned out to be bigots who knew the answer before they asked the question.

Other evidence, such as pollen, puts the date back much earlier and associates it with the Holy Land.


4 posted on 01/26/2005 7:38:23 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: ArcLight

It's between 1 and 1,000,000 years old. You heard it here first...


5 posted on 01/26/2005 7:39:19 PM PST by zoso82t
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: ArcLight

187 comments here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1324044/posts
Shroud Of Turin - New Date?


7 posted on 01/26/2005 7:46:32 PM PST by PAR35
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: ArcLight

I have researched some of the studies done on the shroud lately, and the consensus seems to be that it is older than the 1980s study suggests and that fiber and chemical analysis indicates the presence of plant material specific to the Jerusalem area. Of course, there will always be controversy surrounding the shroud as with any religious or "divine" relic, but its story is compelling.


8 posted on 01/26/2005 7:46:43 PM PST by Blowtorch
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: ArcLight

read later


9 posted on 01/26/2005 7:51:56 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Secularization of America is happening)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: ArcLight

D'uh!


13 posted on 01/26/2005 8:09:37 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: ArcLight

"That led to the then Cardinal of Turin, Anastasio Alberto Ballestrero, admitting the garment was a hoax."

I guess this guy took courses in radiocarbon dating, antique cloth manufacturing, comparative anatomy, palynology and Ancient history while in theological seminary.

The ONLY claim that the Shroud doesn't date to the time of Christ is based on the radiocarbon testing. The radiocarbon testing, as pointed out in this and MANY earlier articles indicates the testing was flawed.

The degree of anatomical accuracy protrayed in the image was clearly beyond the knowledge of any Medieval hoaxer. Pollen sample indicate the Shroud was originally in the Middle East. Studies by fabric experts indicate it was produced in the Middle East at the time of Christ. Nobody has successfully explained how the image was produced - we can't make a similar image with modern technology at this point.

All of which provides as least as much circumstantial evidence that this is indeed the burial shroud of Christ as evidence that Scott Peterson murdered his wife and unborn child - and probably a lot more.

At a time when a animal bone could be passed off as a body part of some dead saint to nearly anyone in Europe, why on earth would a Medieval hoaxer go to such detail to create such an image - not even considering the abilities of anyone to do so at that were non-existant.

This IS the real thing.


14 posted on 01/26/2005 8:10:17 PM PST by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: ArcLight

Why not simply wash the thing?


15 posted on 01/26/2005 8:14:34 PM PST by aculeus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: ArcLight
Turin shroud 'older than thought'

Better title: Turin shroud 'older than some wanted to believe'
17 posted on 01/26/2005 8:30:16 PM PST by aruanan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: ArcLight

I'm not a scientist, but I've had my doubts about the radio-carbon dating due to the fact that the shroud was actually in a fire. Wouldn't that have affected the results?

But if the test sample was taken not from the shroud itself but the cloth used to repair it, then what was that supposed to have proved to begin with?


19 posted on 01/26/2005 8:36:53 PM PST by Marauder ("I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just." - Thomas Jefferson)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: ArcLight

I find the shroud fascinating, but am not convinced one way or the other. I have always suspected that the original carbon dating was inaccurate. The carbon dating placed the shroud's age at approximately the same that historical records show the shroud was repaired after being in a fire. The fact that the British Museum never investigated the possibility that the samples could have been from the repaired area seems to me to indicate that they decided prior to beginning the tests that they would debunk the shroud once and for all, and found the results they wanted.


20 posted on 01/26/2005 8:40:06 PM PST by Richard Kimball (We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men are ready to do violence on our behalf)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: ArcLight

"It's one million years old!"

21 posted on 01/26/2005 8:40:14 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: ArcLight

God forbids making graven images and then creats one himself. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.


24 posted on 01/26/2005 8:58:52 PM PST by Soliton (Alone with everyone else.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: ArcLight

Peer-reviewed journal. Interesting....


26 posted on 01/26/2005 9:27:19 PM PST by Antoninus (In hoc sign, vinces †)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Alamo-Girl; HiTech RedNeck; Don Joe; Young Werther; RightWhale; SMEDLEYBUTLER; mjp; Jape; ...

BBC Shroud of Turin PING

If you want on or off the Shroud ping list, Freepmail me.


28 posted on 01/26/2005 9:31:33 PM PST by Swordmaker (Tagline now open, please ring bell.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: ArcLight

Bump to bump.

Cool.


31 posted on 01/26/2005 9:40:43 PM PST by Spirited
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: ArcLight
coincidentally, the national geographic channel had an hour long special on "the mystery of the shroud" this evening. it followed their 2 hour long show basically debunking the da vinci code, and they seemed to be trying to draw a connection between the shroud and da vinci. the entire show was an "exploration" of means by which da vinci either painted it, or created it using extremely primitive photographic techniques, etc., etc.
32 posted on 01/26/2005 9:41:05 PM PST by smonk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: ArcLight

Boy, these tests are really accurate;

Between 1,300 and 3,000 years old.

Yeah, and I'm between the ages of 15 and 78.


37 posted on 01/26/2005 9:53:47 PM PST by Fruitbat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-22 next last

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson