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1 posted on 01/03/2005 8:31:58 AM PST by qam1
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2 posted on 01/03/2005 8:34:03 AM PST by qam1 (Anyone who was born in New Jersey should not be allowed to drive at night or on hills.)
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There is no cultural celebratory template for women who decide not to have children.

*rolling eyes* Now these people think they should be celebrated for doing NOTHING? No wonder they didn't have kids. They're too damned self-centered!

3 posted on 01/03/2005 8:36:37 AM PST by Prime Choice (The DNC! Where boys and girls look the same! That's a little strange isn't it?)
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There is no cultural celebratory template for women who decide not to have children.

Well, there's no party for those who decide not to buy a house, either.

4 posted on 01/03/2005 8:37:12 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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It doesn't occur to anybody to celebrate a child-free woman in that way."


SELFISH!


5 posted on 01/03/2005 8:38:30 AM PST by Ellesu
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bump


6 posted on 01/03/2005 8:39:14 AM PST by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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Every time I read about couples like this I remember the little old ladies in the nursing homes I have visited who never had any children and have to rely on that lone nephew who lives 1,500 miles away for a family connection.


8 posted on 01/03/2005 8:39:44 AM PST by Slyfox
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Well, if you have priorities in life that would seriously conflict with having children, I would have to say that it's probably best to not have them. However, I think they are missing out on a pretty awesome experience. It's not nearly as disruptive as they think it is...unless you are a complete party animal. :)


9 posted on 01/03/2005 8:39:44 AM PST by exnavychick (Just my two cents, as usual.)
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I am thankful these folks don't have children and not just because they vote liberal. Self centered parents are not good for society.


11 posted on 01/03/2005 8:40:26 AM PST by Raycpa (Alias, VRWC_minion,)
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My best friend had a baby. Now she bought a house with her husband. We're not the friends we used to be at all.


12 posted on 01/03/2005 8:40:33 AM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To those who are calling childless couple selfish, stop and think---isn't it more selfish to have children that you don't want? I think that's even more common and the children suffer. They can tell always when they're not wanted. It's called neglect.


15 posted on 01/03/2005 8:42:05 AM PST by Minuteman23
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May they find contentment and fulfillment.


17 posted on 01/03/2005 8:42:36 AM PST by GSlob
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I can understand why some people choose to not have children. What I cannot understand is why they would choose to miss out on the most joyous part of their lives, when the grandchildren come along and make up for all the sacrifices earlier in life. I have never experienced so much joy in my life as I have with my granddaughter, and the no doubt the next one, due to arrive this week.

I love the phrase "If I had known grandchildren were so much fun, I would have had them first!"

18 posted on 01/03/2005 8:42:44 AM PST by TommyDale
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"We started feeling sort of socially isolated," said Andrea Wenker, 33, of Colorado Springs. "Our friends started having babies ... "They're talking about childbirth and diapers. It's important to their lives, but you start feeling, 'I'm still here, I'm still a person.' "

"Whether or not I want to have kids is not the only consideration," said Wenker. "I believe there's a problem with population, serious issues with the environment, and I believe I have to be part of the solution."

Honey, you're a whiny liberal tweedle, and I'm delighted you've decided not to reproduce. Please consider not voting, either!

19 posted on 01/03/2005 8:42:46 AM PST by Tax-chick (To turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just.)
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As an unmarried (and consequently childless) woman, I can relate to this article. Being unmarried adds a whole other layer to the issue for me, but I must say that I get annoyed by reactions from both liberals and conservatives to my life circumstances. From liberals, I often get a knowing look of "oh, good for you to refuse to be oppressed by a man," when in fact I am a strong supporter of marriage (one man and one woman, of course) and would love to marry, have children, and be a stay-at-home mom. From conservatives, I sometimes get looks of pity or even disdain--the "you poor thing, your life means less" look. I don't want to be assumed to be a feminazi just because I'm currently single and without kids and therefore largely focused on my career, and I also don't want to be told that my value is basically on hold unless and until I have a "family of my own."


23 posted on 01/03/2005 8:43:32 AM PST by susiek
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There's a term called DINKS. Double income, no kids.

I'd guess the demographic of this group is largely democrat voting.

29 posted on 01/03/2005 8:45:48 AM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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The Eatons are part of a small but growing segment of American couples who have chosen not to have children.

If they're Catholic, their marriage is non-sacramental. It's even arguable whether this is a valid natural marriage.

33 posted on 01/03/2005 8:47:23 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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"It doesn't occur to anybody to celebrate a child-free woman in that way."

Because the celebration is about the baby, not about your "choices".

50 posted on 01/03/2005 8:53:21 AM PST by P.O.E. (Happy New Year)
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Why does this article remind me of the ones that celebrate obesity?


51 posted on 01/03/2005 8:53:28 AM PST by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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Hi All-

These people shouldn't be criticized, they should be applauded for not having children. It is much better that they stated their true feelings on the topic, rather than adhering to societal pressures and having kids anyway. If these were inner-city, low-income people being interviewed for the article, we would say how brave they are for breaking the cycle of welfare dependence.

I know of young couples (with children) who aren't mature enough to properly take care of themselves, much less their offspring. These kids arrived due (in part) to relentless pressure from their parents. Too bad they couldn't just say, "No!"

~ Blue Jays ~

60 posted on 01/03/2005 8:55:49 AM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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I Me Mine bump


66 posted on 01/03/2005 8:58:20 AM PST by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor.)
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