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Palestinian Genes Show Arab, Jewish, European and Black-African Ancestry
Global Politician ^ | December 16, 2004 | David Storobin, Esq.

Posted on 12/17/2004 3:05:57 PM PST by quidnunc

A study by the University of Chicago found that Arab populations, including Palestinians, Jordanians, Syrians, Iraqis, and Bedouin, have at least some sub-Saharan African genes. Non-Arabs from the region, including Turks, Kurds, Armenians, Azeris, Georgians, and Jews did not have any African roots. [1] A possible explanation is the proximity of the Arabian peninsula to the Black African nations. This conclusion is favored by the fact that Yemenite Arabs have 35% Black African genes in their mtDNA (which passes through the mother), while others have less. Yemen, of course, is very close geographically to several Black African nations. Other Arabs, especially those far away from the Arabian peninsula, have as little as 10% African blood in their mtDNA. As such, it is possible that the African gene was merely diluted by the introduction of non-Arab (and non-African) genes to the pool when Arabs began to conquer other Middle East people after the rise of Islam. The "real" Arabs -- those who have Arab ancestors stretching beyond the last 1,400 years – are actually 35% Black in their mtDNA. These Arabs are from the Arabian peninsula.[2]

Other populations that are now called ‘Arabs’ became Arabized through intermarriage and adoption of the Arabic language and culture. These people are partially Arab and partially descendants of the nations that lived in their region prior to the rise of the Muslim faith. Just as their "Arab gene" was diluted by mixing with local genes, so too the 35% of the mtDNA that is Black African was diluted and reduced to around 10%.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Israel
KEYWORDS: africa; arab; archaeology; dna; genealogy; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; history; israel; mtdna; origins
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To: Pilsner

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21 posted on 12/17/2004 3:41:20 PM PST by cyborg (http://www.zimbabwesituation.com/flamelily.html)
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To: Pilsner

Not sure why my post came out blank but the original settlers mixed a lot with the Khoi-Sans.


22 posted on 12/17/2004 3:43:28 PM PST by cyborg (http://www.zimbabwesituation.com/flamelily.html)
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To: Pilsner
I read an interesting article several years ago about the earliest White people in South Africa.

There was a surprisingly large number of Portuguese sailors shipwrecked around the Cape. These sailors were adopted into the Hottentot tribes. Eventually these tribes became so White that they began to look as much like Europeans as Africans. I think their descendants are known as "Cape Coloreds"

Also am sure it said the Boers were pretty much pure Dutch except they mixed with French Huegenots.

23 posted on 12/17/2004 3:47:46 PM PST by Shanda
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To: Pilsner
I have all of my lines back to before the crossing.
I'm pure cracker, but sadly did find some French.
24 posted on 12/17/2004 3:49:00 PM PST by ASA Vet (What if there were no hypothetical questions?)
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To: Veto!

Actually now it's become so "Cool" to be part American Indian that people are claiming it when it does't exist. Interesting shift over time from trying to hide that ancestry.

It's even worse for being Irish (the officially sanctioned "cool" ethnic derivation); a lot more people claim Irish ancestry than actually are Irish these days.

The other neat angle is a lot of people who consider themselves "white," particularly in the South, are a fairly substantial % black African (10% or so.)


25 posted on 12/17/2004 3:51:03 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: blam

I've already added the kw, I'll ping GGG when I get home. :')


26 posted on 12/17/2004 4:30:50 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: GSlob
"How did they put it in that last Friday sermon? "Sons of pigs and monkeys", or was it something similar?"

As the web site for Harper’s Magazine reported, one study showed that Jews and Palestinians have common ancestry that is so recent that it is highly likely that at least some of the Palestinian blood actually descends from Jews. [3] Another study by New York University confirmed a remarkable similarity between Jewish and Palestinian genes. "Jews and Arabs are all really children of Abraham," said Dr. Harry Ostrer, director of the Human Genetics Program at New York University School of Medicine, who worked on the study. "And all have preserved their Middle Eastern genetic roots over 4,000 years.

Who was it said "The hatred of brothers is stronger than the hatred of strangers"?

27 posted on 12/17/2004 4:56:26 PM PST by sinanju
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To: quidnunc
I remember about 4 years ago an article in the journal "Science" described a genetic study of persons in the Middle East and compared the extent of differences between ethnic groups there. They concluded that there was no discernible genetic difference between any random sample of Israelis and any random sample of Palestinians.

The reaction among many Arab and Jewish biologists/anthropologists worldwide was to denounce the study and destroy or remove access to the issue.

I will never truly understand how people can get to the point where thinking like this takes place.
28 posted on 12/17/2004 5:02:57 PM PST by spinestein (Intolerance will not be tolerated !)
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To: SunkenCiv
"I've already added the kw..."

What is kw?

29 posted on 12/17/2004 5:04:00 PM PST by blam
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To: cyborg

Middle east is the crossroads of culture. Why is this news?



Those were my thoughts exactly.


30 posted on 12/17/2004 5:07:11 PM PST by FauxBlonde
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To: quidnunc
"Palestinian Genes Show Arab, Jewish, European and Black-African Ancestry."

That's why they're bastards.

31 posted on 12/17/2004 5:13:49 PM PST by yooper (If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there......)
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To: GeekDejure

"I am 90% Martian."

Me 10% Martini.


32 posted on 12/17/2004 5:15:59 PM PST by PoorMuttly ("The right of the People to be Muttly shall not be infringed,")
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To: quidnunc

They have Euro blood thanks to the Crusades, and they have Mongol blood thanks to the Horde. What blood do they not have might be a more interesting question.


33 posted on 12/17/2004 5:19:44 PM PST by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: quidnunc

Check Arafat's DNA; there's bound to be a couple of camel genes in there...


34 posted on 12/17/2004 5:23:19 PM PST by lancer (If you are not with us, you are against us!)
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To: Strategerist

I remember an article about the topic in Scintific America stating that there is a High percentage of European blood in the black population in America.

Probally a reason some Arabs look like Europeans. The Roman Empire certinaly helped out with Genetic mixing between the populations of Europe and the Middle East and Africa.


35 posted on 12/17/2004 5:30:32 PM PST by John Will
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To: ASA Vet
Gaelic, Norman, Frankish, Basque or Flemish?

French is country not a race.
36 posted on 12/17/2004 5:40:08 PM PST by demecleze
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To: John Will
It is thought by most historians (although they avoid mentioning it for PC reasons) that Indo-Europeans ruled the middle east(like at least 4000 years ago) as they did India. But the caste system in India remained (with inevitable mixing) while the Semitic peoples (loose racial grouping that includes Arabs and Jews) appeared to have finally revolted with the advent of Islam.

As far as I am aware the Palestinians were originally an Indo-European tribe.

One has to be careful with mtDNA as this is indicative of line of mothers, one has to look at chromosomal DNA and determine genetic distance values for populations. I have looked at these and are about what you would expect if your read history. But it is certainly conceivable that Semitic people in the middle east have mixing with Sub-Saharan Africans over the years.

So in the end you have alot of mixing in the middle east over the years.

This subject is a little faux pas as the Germans went a little bit berserk with the advent of racial science. I see it finally coming back into vogue, that is great for historians. As the composition of existing populations can help figure out quandaries. Such as the English being very close to Frisian and Danish which seems to indicate that the Celtic Britons were pushed off the land or killed during the Anglo-Saxon invasions.
37 posted on 12/17/2004 5:58:07 PM PST by demecleze
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To: Nabber

I have two Indian ggggggrandmothers.


38 posted on 12/17/2004 8:24:13 PM PST by Mercat (Have a blessed Christmas and New Year.)
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To: demecleze
French is a country not a race.

France is the country, French are the people living there, and their language.

Gaelic, Norman, Frankish, Basque, Flemish, and French are not a race. They are members of the Caucasian race.

39 posted on 12/18/2004 8:14:27 AM PST by ASA Vet (What if there were no hypothetical questions?)
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To: Mercat

No doubt.

But what's your proof? Most people couldn't prove it.
Your blood type might possibly give a hint.

My blood type is B-negative. Highest percentage of B-negative blood by ethnic type? Hungarian gypsies. My great grandmother was born in Hungary, as it turns out.


40 posted on 12/18/2004 9:54:18 AM PST by Nabber
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