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Mom ousted for taping gay acceptance `lies' (Forced off property at High School Gay Awareness Day)
The Boston Herald ^ | Thursday, December 16, 2004 | Jessica Fargen

Posted on 12/16/2004 10:05:07 AM PST by presidio9

Two parents, shocked at frank talk during a gay and lesbian awareness day at Newton North High, were forced off the property after one parent whipped out a video camera and started taping.

``This does not belong in curriculum,'' said Kim Cariani, who said four police officers and the principal told them they would be charged with trespassing if they did not leave.

``It's against my religion. It's morally wrong and forced in a child's face.''

Each year, some students at Newton North forgo classes during To BGLAD: Transgender, Bisexual, Gay and Lesbian Awareness Day with assembly-like sessions including ``Out at the Old Ballgame'' and ``Color Me Queer.'' Students are not required to attend.

Cariani kept her two kids home during the day, but she was curious.

Cariani and another parent, Brian Camenker, were in the audience when adults in a panel discussion talked about being gay. When one man told the students he was attracted to his sister's husband, Cariani said she started to record the ``propaganda, false information and lies.''

The principal demanded Cariani turn over the videotape or leave, Camenker said.

``They took the two of us and pulled us out and gave us one minute to leave and if we came back on the property we would be arrested for trespassing,'' he said.

Tom Mountain, a columnist for the Newton Tab, was also barred from the assembly ``for the safety and security of the children,'' he said he was told.

Newton schools Superintendent Jeff Young said it is a violation of school policy to tape or photograph students without parental permission. Cariani refused to give up the tape, so they were asked to decamp, he said.

The awareness day, held for the past 10 years, is one of several ways the schools highlight diversity, Young said. Students who don't want to go can go to the library or computer lab.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: article8; briancamenker; diversity; education; educrats; homosexualagenda; indoctrination; pc; pedophilia; recruitment; sexliesand; students; thegaystate; tolerance; videotape
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To: MineralMan
Going on a school campus with a video cameral is going to get you tossed, unless you have permission.

You think that recording the proceedings at a government school is wrong?

121 posted on 12/16/2004 10:54:25 AM PST by Protagoras (Christmas is not a secular holiday)
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To: Modernman

I have a question for the pre-op TV who lamented his penis. What other healthy body parts can you request to have amputated without getting you 90 days observation?


122 posted on 12/16/2004 10:54:28 AM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: Skooz
"Maybe she was concerned that the kids might be lead in a prayer. That would change your mind on this issue in a nanosecond."

LOL! Home Run!

123 posted on 12/16/2004 10:54:41 AM PST by Sam's Army (Never trust anyone that still wears an 80's surfer cut)
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To: nevergore
The real issue was that the material was controversial and the school principal and administration didn't not want the "light of day" shown on it.

To say nothing of the fact that she was taping the presenters, not the students.

124 posted on 12/16/2004 10:55:26 AM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: massgopguy
What other healthy body parts can you request to have amputated without getting you 90 days observation?

Foreskin, generally.
125 posted on 12/16/2004 10:55:28 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: rollo tomasi
Good argument

Thank you, yes, it was very logical and straightforward. It doesn't make a darn bit of difference whether my tax dollars went to someplace. It doesn't give me any right whatsoever to be there.

Of course, there are differences between taping on a military installation and taping a school assembly. And those differences should of course be taken into account and respected. But naturally, these certain modifiers are stated few and far between. All I saw was "her tax dollars went there, so she had every right to be there!"

So yes, I agree. My statement was logical and to the point. Wouldn't you agree?

126 posted on 12/16/2004 10:56:06 AM PST by TheBigB (Smartass remarks $5.00...with extra pithiness $2.00 more!)
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To: presidio9

Until enough tax-paying parents care enough to demand change in the schools we'll see more of this type of thing, and not just in Massachusetts.


127 posted on 12/16/2004 10:56:24 AM PST by opus86 ("I think those are things that people who think about those things are thinking about...")
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To: HostileTerritory
At my high school, we called it "the Prom."

What, you think no gay couples go to proms these days?
128 posted on 12/16/2004 10:56:26 AM PST by beezdotcom (I'm usually either right or wrong...)
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To: Modernman
Presumably, the kids who were there had their parents' permission to attend, so I'm not sure why she thinks she should be butting in.

OK. I give permission for my kids to attend on the day that they go over the teachings of Christ. Oops. I forgot...they don't, and won't have one of those days.

129 posted on 12/16/2004 10:56:31 AM PST by TankerKC (R.I.P. Spc Trevor A. Win'E American Hero)
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To: nevergore
Tell that to the Dad's taping every football and basketball game that they cannot film it...won't happen....same issue, school property and students...

Exactly.

The real issue was that the material was controversial and the school principal and administration didn't not want the "light of day" shown on it.

Bingo.

130 posted on 12/16/2004 10:56:51 AM PST by Skooz (The "holiday" has a name.)
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To: Skooz
But using our tax dollars to teach children the virtues of butt sex and fisting is a-ok.

I didn't see anything that indicated that there was any sexual instruction....

131 posted on 12/16/2004 10:56:57 AM PST by VaBarrister
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To: TankerKC

I bet her tax dollars are spent on the boys' basketball team, too, but that doesn't give her the right to film them changing in the locker room. (To make an extreme example.)


132 posted on 12/16/2004 10:57:21 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: MineralMan
The fact that there was an attraction [between two males] is meaningless.

Perhaps to you it is, but not to me. That's the whole point, at least it seems to me. That's why the mom was there. Documenting that children were being exposed to such perversity.

You said earlier on this thread that "There are homosexual teenagers". No sir, there are not. There are teenagers who, after being exposed to programs exactly like this, programs that normalize the homosexual perversity, and trivialize any moral objection to the aberration, *think* they're homosexuals, but they're not. They're just poor, confused kids who, while struggling with their developing bodies and minds, are convinced that their confusion over their sexuality (which every teenager goes through, just with varying degrees) is an indication that they are homosexual.

It's sick, sad, and evil what the schools are doing to kids today. If I had a kid, there would be no WAY I would send them to public school, because guaranteed, for all the crap like this we hear about, there's probably 10 other things they're doing, other things more subtle and therefore, arguably, more *dangerous*, than even this.

133 posted on 12/16/2004 10:58:04 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: presidio9
hey look on the bright side at least she isnt facing 47 years i n prison because of it Christians Face 47 Years in Prison Because Philly Judge Calls Bible Verses fighting words
134 posted on 12/16/2004 10:58:26 AM PST by freepatriot32 (http://chonlalonde.blogspot.com)
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To: TheBigB
Only if you wanted $5.00 for your smart-ass remarks.
135 posted on 12/16/2004 10:58:38 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: beezdotcom

They didn't at my high school. Lots of schools ban same-sex couples from the Prom. It's certainly a very heterosexual event, particularly if you can get a hotel room afterwards.


136 posted on 12/16/2004 10:58:43 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: presidio9
Tom Mountain, a columnist for the Newton Tab, was also barred from the assembly "for the safety and security of the children,' he said he was told.

The sodomites are careful about who they allow to observe them as they begin to pervert other people's children.

137 posted on 12/16/2004 10:59:07 AM PST by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: VaBarrister
I didn't see anything that indicated that there was any sexual instruction....

I guess we will never know how detailed the instruction was, seeing as how the administration has kept it Top Secret and forbidden the parents from knowing.

138 posted on 12/16/2004 10:59:14 AM PST by Skooz (The "holiday" has a name.)
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To: VaBarrister
I didn't see anything that indicated that there was any sexual instruction

And we will never know, will we? A public meeting held in a public building involving minors was not allowed to be recorded by a parent of a student who is an attender of the school. We will never know what went on at that meeting through an objective witness (the camera). Is that acceptable?

139 posted on 12/16/2004 10:59:48 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Leatherneck_MT; Mulch

Amen.


140 posted on 12/16/2004 11:00:00 AM PST by lodwick
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