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Another student victim of Liberal schooling
television news | 11/12/04 | sunnyside

Posted on 11/12/2004 6:39:25 AM PST by SunnySide

Heard this on the t.v. news while on the net. So I don't have a link, source or tv station (Sorry Mr. Mod)


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To: webstersII

Well, until the 70s the French schools on which the Prussian were based were admirable for the education you got there.

And the Prussian model wasn't so bad either: after all illiteracy rates in France and Germany are below the ones in the United States...

What the problem is everywhere today is that, in a world that has changed, schools haven't changed as much....


141 posted on 11/12/2004 8:26:34 AM PST by Pitiricus
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To: Aquinasfan
He's SHE'S open-minded and tolerant.

It's a she, and she is pro abortion.

142 posted on 11/12/2004 8:27:19 AM PST by Protagoras (A new day has dawned, FR is now a forum for liberal views.)
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To: Pitiricus
So you are against compulsory schooling?

I'm undecided. I don't reject the idea out of hand since the first 100 years of our nation's existence shows that we did pretty well without it.

An improvement over the existing system, an improvement which would give parents greater control over their children's education (which is their natural responsibility), would be a voucher program.

Now what do you make of the fact that government schools do not teach logic yet claim to inculcate "critical thinking skills"?

Welcome to the Middle Ages...

From your lips to God's ears.

BTW, you and people like you are one of the reasons why our family homeschools. You will get my kids over my dead body.

143 posted on 11/12/2004 8:27:44 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: All

Folks, Pitiricus was on another thread yesterday spreading outrageous lies about the Catholic Church, claiming that "Pope Pius XII had lots of nice things to say about Hitler" and similar communist propaganda. And I inform you of this as an agnostic. In my opinion, he's a troll, looking to bait people into an argument.

Just letting you know.

Oh, and for the record?

"So you are against compulsory schooling? Welcome to the Middle Ages..."

A true liberal mind at work here - judge that compulsory schooling -must- be good, simply because it "sounds right". Odds that this guy ever checked what actually happened to the literacy rate in this country when compulsory schooling was instituted, and found out that it -droppped-? And that the same is true in the history of the UK? Zero. But who cares about results? As long as we can feel good about ourselves, that's all that matters.

Qwinn


144 posted on 11/12/2004 8:27:47 AM PST by Qwinn
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To: Pitiricus
But yes, there is a random element in raising a child because it depends on the child, on the parents, on exterior factors and on interactions between all these factors.

It's that "exterior factors" part that we're working on controlling. I mentioned that my son had playmates who attend public, private, and home schools. Frankly, I'm a snob when it comes to my child. He's not allowed to interact with children who don't come from families that we approve of. Oh, I know that in years to come, I won't have the ability to do that... but, by then, I hope that his own internal moral compass will guide him. Nine is too early, in my book, to learn that there are a-holes in the world. That knowledge will come soon enough.

You can try and shift the odds, but the random element will always stay...

Not only can you try, you can absolutely shift the odds.

145 posted on 11/12/2004 8:28:36 AM PST by TontoKowalski
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To: Pitiricus
So you are against compulsory schooling?

Another liberal position.

146 posted on 11/12/2004 8:29:03 AM PST by Protagoras (A new day has dawned, FR is now a forum for liberal views.)
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To: Aquinasfan

Well I am all for school vouchers...

As to the Middle Ages, go back there if you want... It will give more opportunities to my children!


147 posted on 11/12/2004 8:29:07 AM PST by Pitiricus
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To: jjones9853

"I guess they're happy that their boys will spend their lives being day laborers"

You write that as if being a day laborer is a bad thing. I bet you don't mind that YOUR home was built by day laborers. The world IS about balance as in nature. So not everyone wants or needs to be in white collar occupations or validation that they are status worthy to those around them.


148 posted on 11/12/2004 8:29:07 AM PST by SunnySide
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To: Pitiricus
Well, how would you react if my kids would tell to yours "Jesus, if he ever existed, was not the messiah, not god and belief in Jesus as part of a so-called trinity is politheism..."

First, nobody ought to be outraged, and it would take a real sicko to file suit over it, that's for sure.

149 posted on 11/12/2004 8:29:54 AM PST by Sloth ("Rather is TV's real-life Ted Baxter, without Baxter's quiet dignity." -- Ann Coulter)
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To: Qwinn

Play nice. Tolerance and all that.


150 posted on 11/12/2004 8:30:11 AM PST by Protagoras (A new day has dawned, FR is now a forum for liberal views.)
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To: Qwinn
Folks, Pitiricus was on another thread yesterday spreading outrageous lies about the Catholic Church, claiming that "Pope Pius XII had lots of nice things to say about Hitler"

I believe there is truth in that. However it must be kept in the context of biblical teaching about authority and in the political context of causing the local Catholics to be persecuted ( See modern day France and Spain) .

151 posted on 11/12/2004 8:30:30 AM PST by Raycpa (Alias, VRWC_minion,)
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To: Sloth
Jesus, if he ever existed

The poster claims Jesus never existed. On other threads and now tries to sneak it in on this one.

152 posted on 11/12/2004 8:31:40 AM PST by Protagoras (A new day has dawned, FR is now a forum for liberal views.)
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To: Pitiricus
Well I am all for school vouchers...

Naturally, vouchers come with government conditions. It's the dreamed of takeover of private schools by liberals.

153 posted on 11/12/2004 8:33:39 AM PST by Protagoras (A new day has dawned, FR is now a forum for liberal views.)
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To: Pitiricus
my son... had an SAT of 1600

LOL, yeah, right.

154 posted on 11/12/2004 8:34:32 AM PST by Sloth ("Rather is TV's real-life Ted Baxter, without Baxter's quiet dignity." -- Ann Coulter)
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To: Raycpa

*sigh* No, it's not true - the most that can be said is that he didn't condemn Hitler at every single possible opportunity, and that was for the very reasons you state.

However, Time Magazine quoted Albert Einstein as saying the following in 1940, while Pius XII was Pope: "Only the Church stood squarely across the path of Hitler's campaign for suppressing the truth." And multiple New York Times editorials of the time called the Vatican a "lone voice in the wilderness", and the Pope the only European leader to speak out against Hitler. Israeli scholars have credited the Vatican with saving the lives of over 700,000 Jews during World War II - if it wasn't for those evil anti-Semitic Catholics, as he would like to portray them, we'd be talking about 7 million Jews killed by Hitler, not 6.

I'm sorry I brought it up now. I just wanted to warn you, the guy is clearly a troll.

Qwinn


155 posted on 11/12/2004 8:34:47 AM PST by Qwinn
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To: Pitiricus
It will give more opportunities to my children the survivors!
156 posted on 11/12/2004 8:34:50 AM PST by Protagoras (A new day has dawned, FR is now a forum for liberal views.)
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To: Sloth
my son... had an SAT of 1600 LOL, yeah, right.

At least one other had an SAT of zero, he was murdered in the uterus.

157 posted on 11/12/2004 8:36:46 AM PST by Protagoras (A new day has dawned, FR is now a forum for liberal views.)
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To: Qwinn
I'm sorry I brought it up now. I just wanted to warn you, the guy is clearly a troll.

Ya think?

158 posted on 11/12/2004 8:37:32 AM PST by Protagoras (A new day has dawned, FR is now a forum for liberal views.)
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To: Protagoras

So, an average of 800. Sounds like day laborer material.


159 posted on 11/12/2004 8:37:41 AM PST by Sloth ("Rather is TV's real-life Ted Baxter, without Baxter's quiet dignity." -- Ann Coulter)
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To: tutstar

I think you meant to reply to someone else?


160 posted on 11/12/2004 8:38:53 AM PST by Sans-Culotte
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