Maybe you need to read Samuel's story:
Posted on 11/05/2004 5:51:36 PM PST by gentlestrength
Yep, I sure did...and I'll say it again" Keyes diminished himself, as well as the GOP".
Whatever the hell got into that state's party leadership to do the blatant, theatric carpetbagging act is totally beyond me.
The issues are one thing, but the fools in Chicagoland could have found a homie to carry the load....they made absolute fools out of themselves and sealed the fate of Republicanism there for the foreseeable future. Very bad move.
You're belligerent, bullheaded, and completely oblivious to tact.
I don't see how the pro-life movement is aided by ranting and raving.
And not shaking your opponent's hand.
Boxers who are getting ready to pound each other's brains out shake hands with each other.
Having said that, he is a terrible politician. Not because he says the things that he says, but THE WAY HE SAYS THEM and THE TIMES HE CHOSES TO DO SO.
That's Monday Morning quarterbacking. Truth is never wrong. Truth does not require a proper methodology in which for it to be truth. Truth is not truth only at certain times and not other times.
It is NOT Alan Keyes' style which fails, but the hearts of those who refuse to open. Truth was and is available.
Hey, wake up and smell the Illinois coffee. Even the Bush machine lost by 10% in Illinois. When you feed corruption the way Chicagoans did in the 1920s and 1930s, it tends to leave a legacy that is passed on to following generations.
It's Illinoisians who have created the ultra-sensitive "china shop," where they don a hear-no-evil, see-no-evil, speak-no-evil monkey mask about the unborn our country is killing.
The Republicans could have had the most perfect pro-life candidate tone-wise in Illinois, and he/she would have still lost the Senate.
Neither are you ever going to staunch the flow by adopting the typical business-as-usual, mealy-mouthed approach to the pre-born that most GOP candidates take. Bottom line: I like what Alan Keyes does better than what most GOP candidates fail to do.
=== Now which view is right? (Hint: This is easy.)
Depends ... do you want to be a "Winner"?
You best be prepared to compromise.
That's something Alan Keyes won't do.
You have a point there. It still holds true, however, that it doesn't matter if you have the "right" position on any issue if you can't get elected. If he's going to be a roving candidate, he might do better in a deep South state, where both whites and blacks are more socially conservative. But then, he's Catholic, which may go against him even more than being black.
Are you pointing out for everyone that Bush's "godfearing Republican" numbers are evenly split between those who'd just as easily support a deathist liberal?
If so ... THANKS. It's a message that needs sending.
Thanks for enlightening us to the reality that abortions are occurring in the pews and amongst typical readers of the editorial page. Way to compartmentalize the battle!
It's the abortion industry protected by the twin umbrella of the legislature and the courts that is where the actual battle rages for the very lives of the pre-born. Oh sure, the battle has gone beyond there; but that is where it is fought most fiercely.
Jesus called John the Baptist the greatest prophet before him. I can just imagine you lecturing John over his actions in Luke 3:19: "But Herod, the tetrarch, being rebuked by him [John] concering Herodias [who he was sleeping with], his brother Philip's wife, and for all the evils which Herod had done..."
Go ahead, elevate yourself above anyone [like John the Baptist] who dares to rebuke a public official.
You said "Which view is now going to have another seat in the Senate, because of the bull-in-a-china-shop efforts of a lousy politician?"
BECAUSE OF?? Thinking just like a Dimocrat, you blame results on personality rather than content. The
"another seat" is BECAUSE 3 million of people in Illinois collectively support murdering babies in the womb and anti-family gay relationships.
1. Obama supports abortion and gay marriage
2. The Democratic party supports those positions.
3. Therefore, the people who voted for Obama voted FOR murdering babies in the womb, and FOR the destruction of gays emotionaly, physically, and spiritually because of the continued support of their refusal to get help and healing through doing things God's way.
A politician who speaks for what is right is NOT "lousy." A politician who lies, manipulates, advances wrong IS "lousy."
AH!! Spreading joy and happiness again aren't you???
They're called GOP platform prodigals.
Maybe you need to read Samuel's story:
What does Samuel's story have to do with Alan Keyes?
And you know this because your crystal ball is dusted off due to Halloween usage?, or because your great ancestors prophetically said the same thing about another Illinois product who happened to lose five of his first seven campaigns? [Initials of that candidate was A.L.]
Keyes is not a public official, despite your intensity for him. He's a priviate individual. Sorry to enlighten you.
The abortion issue.
I don't think you are on the same wavelength as most pro-Lifers.
You are never going to staunch the flow of blood by adopting the Keyes formula...
So we should speak out against the murders??? That's what he does. We can't go in and bomb the murderers like WWII Germany.
You said " He should have stayed home and let the IL Republicans stew in their own juices."
So cowardly staying out of the fray, out of the fight is correct? We should be unmerciful to our fellow believers in human life and right and wrong, if they live in such a corrupted state? I would hope you other 49 states would come to the rescue of our miserable Califonia, help us, rather than just let the righteous stew in misery.
They and he would be better off today if he had.
=== It's only taken since the 60s to get where we are today, because we didn't have enough people like Alan Keyes combining the true God and true Truth with our politics.
Right ... and additionally, we've got a raft of hypocrites as habit this forum. Folks who've taken up the Republican mantra of "I'm personally opposed, but ... " and whose "single issue" excoriation of abortion is particularly gruesome for the way they
(1) rationalize Bush's nailing open the most profitable window of Human NON-Personhood there's ever been
(2) defend absolutely the birth control mentality which not only necessitates a right to abortion where the planning of "God's blessings" are concerned but seeks to exclude the Creator from the only profoundly creative and sacred human relationship they have
and
(3) Countenance the "rape/incest provision" which is the Republican foot in the door by which all shall ever have access to abortion under Certain Circumstances as if the alchemy of pragmatism applied to a Person's "inalienable" right to life.
Abortion is a GOP policy. Always has been. They made the case for it, they were the first to document its "vital" role in our domestic and international campaigns of population control and reduction.
This whole "pro-life" hoo-hah was the Biggest Lie of the entire campaign though the fact Viet Nam's a scab that can still be picked to bleed only goes to show what utterly narcissistic navel-gazers are the boomer and how effective is the fashion industry's regular return to hip-hugging bell bottoms and psychedelics.
=== AH!! Spreading joy and happiness again aren't you???
Just the facts, Ma'am.
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