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I am thinking of running for office (Big Vanity with lights)
Myself ^ | November 4 | Moi

Posted on 11/04/2004 3:34:38 PM PST by MissouriConservative

While I was casting my vote here in Kansas City, I looked at my state representative race for the Missouri House...and noticed that only one person was on the ballot and it was a democrat to boot. No Republican was running....and I was ashamed.

After talking with my lovely Mrs. MissouriConservative, I have reached a decision....I am going to run for the 44th district here in Missouri in 2006.

I know there are a few Freepers here in KC and would love to have them help in way they can. I am going to join a lot of local Republican clubs and begin networking. I not only need the physical help, but a lot of prayers and spiritual guidance. We cannot let a democrat run unopposed, no matter how democratic the district may be.

I am currently studying my opponent to be, and she has a lot of weaknesses....voting for medical pot usage, still trying to get Missouri to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment, etc.

This district is changing, albeit slowly, and more people are moving to the suburbs and voting is slowly trending towards conservatives.

Whatcha all think?


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To: Manny Ortiz
I don't know who you are, nor am I particularly interested in finding out. (I note you offer no information about that.)

When I first created my Exploratory Committee, I put up a post about that, and invited contributions. But I also FLAGGED Jim Robinson, and asked his permission. He reviewed it, said it was against FR policy, and I allowed the thread to die.

This whole p*ssing contest began because LLL complained that she'd had her candidate threads pulled. I gather she didn't consult Jim and seek his okay. That's her fault, not his, and certainly not mine.

In six years of posting on FR I have never had a thread pulled, never even had a post deleted. That's because I've always recognized that this is Jim's house, and participants should abide by his rules.

You assume in your snotty post that I have money left over. Like most efforts in politics, my brief one (for 2004) had more costs than donations. I, of course, made up the difference from my own pocket. That's okay. I had expected some such.

"Real" candidates are the ones who win. I did not win the two times I got involved in elective politics. LLL did not win in her two efforts either. There are thousands of candidates for Congress every two years. Only 435 ultimately win. All the rest have lessons to learn from their defeats. I have learned my lessons. The others are responsible for learning their own lessons.

You are out of line. Your apology would be accepted, if made. Other than that, this conversation is ended.

Billybob

181 posted on 11/06/2004 2:07:14 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (Visit: www.ArmorforCongress.com please.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

"You assume in your snotty post that I have money left over. Like most efforts in politics, my brief one (for 2004) had more costs than donations. I, of course, made up the difference from my own pocket. That's okay. I had expected some such."

You sure blow a lot of smoke.

Simple question--if you didn't run, where did the money go?

Why isn't there "money left over" if you didn't run? Didn't even file?

You had ZERO running expenses. So why not give the money back to the people who gave you money thinking it would be used for your "run"?

I realize you won't answer, since you haven't answered a single question yet. But I hope others do learn from your "lesson" and not give money to bogus candidates.

That is money that could be used for real candidates or real causes.


182 posted on 11/06/2004 2:17:25 PM PST by Manny Ortiz
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To: Congressman Billybob

One last thing then I will shut up about this. But you posted above:

"If you follow the course of that threat, you find out that per a discussion with Jim Robinson it was revised. Any requests for donations were deleted and not made again."

Yet on the "threat" in question you posted:

To: NCSteve
As the article says, please make recommendations to people who are in the District, or likely to know folks who are. Also, send a modest contribution now, while you're thinking of it. LOL.
John / Billybob

6 posted on 10/03/2003 5:41:15 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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You didn't get that post deleted, and as a matter of fact, you didn't "let the thread die" as you claimed, but continued to post to it for almost a week. Of course you could have asked to have the thread deleted.

Also you continue to this day to use FR to raise money for your CFR campaign, whatever that is.


183 posted on 11/06/2004 2:37:47 PM PST by Manny Ortiz
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To: Manny Ortiz

One last thing then I will shut up about this. <<<
No no no!!!
You two guys are SMART and SKILLFUL agonists, and probably not one poster.
Could you ask Legs to come back?
She was good, too. Distaff side.
FR!!!


184 posted on 11/06/2004 2:55:50 PM PST by alcuin (getridofthateffinlooselipssinkshipsgesture)
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To: alcuin
I am disgusted by the tag-team attacks on Congressman Billybob on this thread. He has always shown himself as honest and sincere on Free Republic and has never given anyone any reason to doubt him.

I've read his articles for years, I consider him completely trustworthy.

185 posted on 11/06/2004 4:49:14 PM PST by Jean S
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To: Congressman Billybob

If you want to discuss 'Vanity Campaigns' that would be your non-campaign. You didn't run, you just talked about running. Heck, your name is even a vanity of something you have never accomplished. Your granduer is all in your head.

I was never in a 'Vanity Campaign'.

I had run for State Senate at the request of my state party and got 3 times more votes than there are republicans in the district. From that sucess the party begged me to run for US Congress. The first year I said no because it was a 4 term incumbent and the mother of the mayor, and then last year I suddenly went blind and everything was out of the question.

My eyesight returned and I was asked by the RNC to please run. I agreed and put my heart and soul into it. I have achieved great success in this election. I am now fielding offers of a prime-time radio show on a REAL RADIO STATION, not an internet station, and have so many requests to speak at functions that I can't commit to all of them.

Also, this 'Vanity Campaign' that you say I have run got so much attention in Washington that they sent me a senator's aid to help me in the last two months.

So, Congressman Nothing, did the GOP of North Carolina beg you to run against a GOP incumbent? Did Washington send you top staff?

The answer would be no. I have yet to hear an apology from you, just petty jealousy because I was able to do what you only dream of and pretend to be.


186 posted on 11/06/2004 5:12:53 PM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs (I had the guts to run for Congress and all I get is grief.)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
How much did you lose by, the two times you ran? Was it more than 10%? I lost by more than 10% the first time, and had the sense to realize I'd do no better the second time, given existing conditions. No big whoop.

Congressman Billybob is my pen name. I've written under that name for ten years in a national, weekly column. But then if you'd done your homework, you'd know that.

You might have an offer to do a REAL RADIO SHOW, local I gather. Wow. I did a national radio show weekly for six years. Hadn't mentioned it because that's no big whoop.

I get speaking engagements also. The audiences have included a third of all the state legislators in the nation. I didn't mention that because it's no big whoop.

No, I am not the least bit jealous of you. I do have a measure of sympathy for you. I owe you no apology. I do offer you the advice that you'll have a tough time getting elected if you keep a chip on your shoulder. But I suppose you won't accept that advice.

Billybob

187 posted on 11/06/2004 7:31:45 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (Visit: www.ArmorforCongress.com please.)
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To: MissouriConservative
I spent two years as Chairman of the Candidate Search Committee for my county's Republican Party. During my last election in that position, my county went 8 for 9 of Republican-endorsed winners on the school board (pick up of 4), 6 for 9 on our county Board of Supervisors (pick up of 3), 5 for 5 on our State Delgates, and 2 for 2 on our State Senators.

There's a lot of good advice on this thread, and in addition I'm including a questionnaire that we gave to people who were thinking about running for office. It helped weed out a lot of folks before they made fools of themselves. Be brutally honest with yourself when answering the "Political Viability & Electability" section.

Right to Life

Would you support a law that would prevent abortions, other than to prevent the death of the mother?

If it were not possible to pass such a law, would you support a law that would prevent abortions, except those to prevent the death of the mother, when the pregnancy is the result of forcible rape, immediately reported to law enforcement agencies), or when the pregnancy of a minor is the result of incest, (with the perpetrator reported to law enforcement agencies)?

Public opinion surveys have shown that the public is overwhelmingly opposed to abortion as a means of birth control (87%), yet 43% of abortions are now repeat abortions.

Abortion is used as a method of birth control, such as contraceptives or natural family planning. People use birth control to space children, to avoid interference with a career or education, or for a variety of other motivations that all have one thing in common: the desire to avoid having any child at this time. There are other categories of abortion that might be sought even by someone who genuinely wants a child: abortions performed to prevent death or serious physical health damage to the mother, or in cases of rape or incest, or in cases in which the unborn child would have serious disabilities.

For purposes of clarity and enforceability, a law preventing the use of abortions as a means of birth control defines such abortions as covering abortions other than those in the five categories described in the previous sentence.

Would you support a law that would prevent the use of abortion as a means of birth control?

Babies are often aborted in the U.S. just because they are the "wrong" sex, usually female. In one survey of medical geneticists, 60% said they would either perform sex-testing for sex selection abortion, or refer to other geneticists who would do so.

Would you support a law that would prevent abortion for sex selection?

Would you vote for a law to require parental notification before abortions are performed on minors?

Would you support a law to require parental consent for abortions performed on minors?

A Woman's Right to Know law would ensure that women considering abortion are informed about medical risks of the procedure and are given an opportunity to read information about agencies that provide alternatives to abortion, as well as objective, scientifically accurate information about the development of the unborn child.

Would you support a "Woman's Right To Know" law requiring that doctors provide information on the development of the unborn child, alternatives to abortion, and medical risks of abortion before an abortion is performed?

Would you support an educational program to provide information about the development of the unborn child and about alternatives to abortion?

Would you support a law to get government out of the abortion business by preventing the use of state facilities to perform abortions not necessary to prevent the death of the mother, and to prevent state employees from performing, referring or counseling for abortions, other than those abortions necessary to prevent the death of the mother?

Would you support a law to prevent the use of tax payer funds for abortions other than abortions to prevent the death of the mother?

If it were not possible to pass the previous law, would you support a law to prevent the use of tax payer funds for abortions other than abortions to prevent the death of the mother, when the pregnancy is the result of forcible rape (immediately reported to law enforcement agencies), or when the pregnancy of a minor is the result of incest (when the perpetrator of the crime is reported to a law enforcement agency)?

Would you oppose the establishment or funding of "school based "clinics" in secondary schools, unless they are explicitly prohibited from performing abortion counseling or referral or referring to any entity which counsels for, or refers for, or does abortions?

Would you support a law to protect living human embryos from being used for medical experimentations that would harm or kill them, including so called "embryonic stem cell research, that would require the killing of human embryos?

Would you support a legal prohibition on all human cloning, including the cloning of human embryos?

Would you oppose legislation that would permit the cloning of human cloning, including the cloning of human embryos?

Would you support legislation that would protect the lives of infants born alive as the result of an abortion?

Crime & Law Enforcement

There has been a lot of recent discussion on the creation of a "Drug Court" to specifically handle those related crimes and offenses. What is your position on this? And, If you are in support of it, how do you propose its funding?

What is your position on the creation of a statewide Public Defenders Office? How would you compare funding that agency as opposed to the court appointed attorney system?

With recent concern involving the issuing of identification at the DMV, should the Court continue to assemble its Jury Pool from DMV lists? Should this method be preferred over the Jury Pool being selected from lists of registered voters?

How would you characterize the importance of efficient communication and cooperation between the Commonwealth's Attorney's Office and the Sheriff's Department? What effect has Loudoun County's current situation had on its community as it relates to effective prosecution and investigation?

In the past there has been discussion of creating a county police force, with a police chief appointed by the Board of Supervisors. The Sheriff’s department would retain responsibility for managing the jail and serving papers, such as warrants, for the courts. Do you support the creation of a county police force?

Education

Would you be in favor of the government building a hospital to provide health care services to a particular geographic area, and then requiring the residents of that region to use those facilities in case of illness or injury?

Give us your thoughts on the public school monopoly.

Do you think all children should have equal opportunity in, and equal access to, education?

Should parents be in charge of their own children’s education, or not?

Buzzwords in the current education debate include “standards” and “accountability.” In regards to standards, how can we ensure the best quality education product at the lowest possible cost? (Answer: Competition) In your opinion, to whom should schools be accountable? (Answer: Bureaucrats or Parents)

Do you think “public education” and “educating the public” are synonymous? If they are not synonymous, on which would you place the greater importance?

Do you think “public schools” and “educating the public” are two sides of the same coin?

As a potential officeholder, if you had to choose between either supporting public schools or supporting the education of the public, which would you choose?

As a member of the school board, would you perceive your job to be overseeing the public schools, or overseeing the education of the public?

In your mind, does government supporting the education of the public mean that government must run the schools?

As a local government officeholder, to whom are you accountable for the provision of efficient, cost-effective education?

Please discuss the relationship between money for education and quality in education.

Please give us your thoughts on the likely impact of Zelman v. Simmons-Harris.

It is the perception of some on the LCRC that candidates often dramatically underestimate the amount of time and work that would be required by the office they seek. This can cause a well-meaning person who was a good candidate to unwittingly become a “pawn of the staff.”

Land Use & Zoning

Do you believe that a landowner should give his consent before the government takes any action, such as downzoning, that affects his property's value?

Do you support downzoning? If so, should compensation be given to affected landowners? If so, how would this compensation be formulated?

Do you favor incentives that help preserve open space? If so, what?

Do you favor PDR's (Purchase of Development Rights) as they exist and are applied in Loudoun County?

What is your opinion of the "by right" use as it exists now before the new General Plan is implemented?

Second Amendment / Firearm / Hunting Questions

For County-Level Candidates:

In 1986 the Commonwealth of Virginia has passed a firearms “preemption” law, which (except for hunting), prohibits localities from regulating the sale, transfer, possession, and carry of firearms. In spite of this law other northern Virginia local governments, most notably Fairfax, Arlington, and Alexandria, all passed regulations prohibiting the public from carrying firearms in county facilities, such as libraries, police stations, parks, recreational centers, etc. These localities had to be sued by private citizens into complying with the law - the counties lost in court. Would you support such a county regulation or ordinance?

Loudoun County passed an ordinance in 1985 prohibiting firearms in county parks that is “grandfathered” under the preemption law. Do you support or oppose repealing this ordinance?

The Northern Virginia Regional Park Authority wants to prohibit anyone, even concealed-carry permit holders, from bringing a firearm into a park under its jurisdiction. It states that it is not bound by the Commonwealth’s “preemption” law since it has more jurisdiction than a local or county-level governing body. What is your position on this?

What are your thoughts on the prohibition on shooting rifles for any purpose in the eastern part of the county, despite the fact that in many areas it is perfectly safe?

What is your opinion of the recommendations made by Firearms Commission in December of 2000?

Would you support managed deer hunts in Loudoun County parks to bring the deer population down to a healthy level?

Taxes

1. Would you support a tax increase?

2. In your opinion, is Loudoun County’s spending growing too slowly, at about the proper rate, or too quickly?

3. In two years Loudoun County’s debt service will be $120 million per year. What would you do to slow the County’s exploding debt?

4. Which Loudoun County government programs should be trimmed? Which should be eliminated?

5. Today, of the total revenues flowing into Loudoun County’s coffers eighty-four percent is derived from residential sources and sixteen percent is derived from commercial sources. The previous growth in commercial tax revenues is now all but flat. How would you broaden the tax base so that the exploding debt of the county will not fall totally on the backs of the homeowners?

6. Do you support this November’s ballot referendum to build two new high schools at $65 million apiece, each of which is anticipated to open at less than fifty percent occupancy?

7. Do you favor the continuation of the current land use program?

Political Viability & Electability

Personal Life:

Is your family comfortable with you being away often, having late nights out, receiving possible hate mail/threats, fielding constant phone calls, etc?

Is there something going on in your personal life (e.g. divorce, child w/ behavior or drug problems, close relative who is ill, pregnant wife, etc.) that would take time away from campaigning?

Financial / Support:

Can you afford to take several months away from your job to campaign?

Can you afford a job change for four years should you win?

Will you or your spouse be negatively impacted in your jobs if you run as a Republican? If you win?

How do you plan on raising money for your campaign?

Have you raised any money so far? If so, how much (more or less)?

Who have you approached about endorsements and support? What have the responses been?

Commitment:

How much time do you plan to spend each week campaigning?

How much time do you think you will need each week to perform the duties of the office you are seeking? How would you fit these hours into your current schedule?

Have you researched the opposition in the other Party(ies)?

Have you researched the voting patterns (turnouts & demographics) for the past few primaries & elections in this voting district?

Which method would you prefer that the LCRC to use to select its nominees: Primary, Convention, or Party Canvas?

If you do not win the nomination for this position, would you be willing to fully support and endorse the nominee?

If you win the nomination, will you allow your name to be associated with candidates who are not running as Republicans?

If a stronger candidate files for this office, would you be willing to step aside?

Background & Criminal History

Have you ever been arrested?

Have you ever been charged with a misdemeanor?

Have you ever been convicted of a misdemeanor?

Have you ever been charged with a felony?

Have you ever been convicted of a felony?

Have you ever had a restraining order sworn out against you?

Would be willing to show the CSC a copy of your criminal background check (the Sheriff's office can print one at minimal charge)?

Have you or an organization that you represent ever sued the county or any town in the county?

Have you ever been involved in civil litigation (small-claims action, lawsuit, divorce, custody battle, class-action suit, etc.)?

Have you or a company owned/managed by you ever filed for bankruptcy?

Would you be willing to show the CSC a copy of your credit report?

Is there anything about you that you wouldn't tell your mother or your priest?

188 posted on 11/06/2004 9:08:25 PM PST by gieriscm
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To: MissouriConservative

Go for it.


189 posted on 11/07/2004 4:50:19 AM PST by Free_at_last_-2001 (is clinton in jail yet?)
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To: MissouriConservative

The first thing anyone should do if they are cosidering running for office is contact your local GOP headquarters. There are many reasons for doing so, not the least of which is to save them the trouble of recruiting someone else. They can offer you lots of advice, training, help, money and other things.


190 posted on 11/07/2004 4:53:50 AM PST by deaconjim (Freeper formally known as jpw01 (Freep the world!))
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To: Congressman Billybob; lara
hey, there, Billybob :o)

i remember a certain freeper GOP candidate going onto an Alan Keyes thread and bashing Keyes as a loser. When i asked how the polls were for this candidate, she said her poll numbers were better than keyes.

As it turns out, Keyes looked like a winner by comparison. he received a MUCH higher percentage than this freeper candidate.

I think that any freeper who wants to run for office should leran as the first rule of thumb to be nice to GOP volunteers during an election cycle. That's justg my opinion.

191 posted on 11/07/2004 9:28:06 AM PST by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: tame
Ah, the voice of reason on an acrimonious thread.

The first rule of politics is the same as the first rule of the coming battle of Fallujah. It is: know the battlefield.

Until you know the fight you face, you cannot begin to make the pragmatic decisions on the troops and other assets you need, and the tactics to apply. And, because things ALWAYS go wrong in battle (political or otherwise), the goal is never to win by a bare majority, but to overwhelm the opposition.

Although Karl Rove is a college dropout (something I just learned on the news), I have no doubt that he is very well read. And among the books I feel sure he has read repeatedly and annotated heavily is Sun Tzu's The Art of War. LOL.

Thanks for the update on the margin of loss of the Freeper in question. Because I did not have her full name and the District in which she ran, I couldn't look her up. And as you note, it is bad policy to make enemies as one steps down the campaign path. LOL.

Congressman Billybob

192 posted on 11/07/2004 9:43:23 AM PST by Congressman Billybob (Visit: www.ArmorforCongress.com please.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

yes, i think the loss was something like 80 something % for the 'rat to 14 % for the....uh...GOP candidate :o)


193 posted on 11/07/2004 9:47:42 AM PST by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs

Wow, amazing what you'll get with 18% of the vote.


194 posted on 11/07/2004 1:39:19 PM PST by Keyes2000mt (http://adamsweb.us/blog Conservative Truth for Idaho)
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To: JeanS

Noted.
Stay well.


195 posted on 11/07/2004 4:11:30 PM PST by alcuin (getridofthateffinlooselipssinkshipsgesture)
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To: MissouriConservative

Good Luck.


196 posted on 11/07/2004 4:13:14 PM PST by CholeraJoe (I'm just three lost teeth and a neck tattoo away from being a Soccer Hooligan. Go Gunners!)
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To: MissouriConservative

Hey, if this guy can win, you'll always have a chance

"'Mystery candidate' wins election to school board post"

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20041107-121428-4710r.htm


197 posted on 11/07/2004 9:03:51 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (Sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: MissouriConservative

Do it.


198 posted on 11/09/2004 12:53:08 AM PST by Cindy
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To: MissouriConservative

RUN


199 posted on 11/09/2004 1:01:10 AM PST by PGalt
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