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Prelim Analysis - Mutiny Story is Set Up - call for a Post 47
Various - Daily News, Salon, ^ | 10/17/04 | Self

Posted on 10/17/2004 6:56:37 AM PDT by Phsstpok

The earlier thread about the October Surprise "Mutiny" hit piece on this mornings Today show prompted me to do some Googling to try to see if there were any connections of note.  I felt that even the little evidence I found warranted a quick heads up and (forgive me) a separate thread as a call to action.  I have no particular standing to do this, but this concerned me enough to fire off a flare.

It looks like the extreme left is orchestrating an October Surprise propaganda campaign against the war in Iraq and President Bush by staging a "mutiny" of reserve troops (appears to be 5 of 'em, when you get down to it) and playing it the way they played Abu Gharib. 

First, the basic story.  Reports surfaced on Friday, the 15th, that troops in Iraq had refused a "suicide mission" and were under arrest and held in close guard.  A small handful of "frantic" family members began reporting "unfair practices" and "unsafe conditions," desperately calling on (the usual suspects) politicians to save their loved ones from cruel fate.

Some excerpts:

Daily News, October 17, 2004:

'All of us refused to go'

Calls, E-mails explain troops' alleged mutiny

The military has begun punishing some of the 19 Army reservists who balked at what they called a "suicide mission" and a "death sentence" in Iraq last week.

Some members of the South Carolina-based 343rd Quartermaster Company refused to transport fuel between the Iraqi cities of Tallil and Taji Wednesday morning, saying they had no protection for the dangerous trip.

now here's the kicker from the Daily News piece:

Citizen Soldier, a New York-based, nonprofit military rights group, has offered ... its help.

Citizen Soldier is not a "military rights group."  It is a virulently anti-American and anti-Military extreme left front group.  Their motto on their web site is: "Prepared to Challenge U.S. Militarism in the New Millenium."

Citizen Soldier also has close ties to John Kerry, as it's director Tod Ensign, was one of the organizers of Kerry's discredited Winter Soldier propaganda event in 1969, along with Jeremy Rifkin.  This connection is the one that set off my alarm bells.

I couldn't figure the Mississippi angle till I found this in The Clarion-Ledger of Hattiesberg, Mississippi:

Platoon with Mississippi soldiers defies orders 17 soldiers placed under arrest in Iraq

A 17-member Army Reserve platoon with troops from Jackson and around the Southeast deployed to Iraq is under arrest for refusing a "suicide mission" to deliver fuel, the troops' relatives said Thursday. The soldiers refused an order on Wednesday to go to Taji, Iraq - north of Baghdad - because their vehicles were considered "deadlined" or extremely unsafe, said Patricia McCook of Jackson, wife of Sgt. Larry O. McCook.

and again, buried in the piece, is the clue to the source and spin:

U.S. Rep. Bennie Thompson said he plans to submit a congressional inquiry today on behalf of the Mississippi soldiers to launch an investigation into whether they are being treated improperly.

Bennie Thompson is one of the more radical members of the Black Caucus.  He is a leader in the "fair play for Fidel Castro" movement in Congress.  He is often the designated "hit man" in attacking minority members of the Bush Administration, particularly Dr. Condoleezza Rice.  He was a rabid Deaniac, but shifted his loyalty to Kerry when Dean fell on his own scream.

The Salon hit piece ties this squarely to the Washington/DNC/Carville slime machine:

Revolt in the ranks in Iraq

The inside story of the Army platoon that refused to carry out a "death sentence" mission.

is by Mary Jocoby, Salon's Washington Correspondent.  Jacoby is one of Salon's "reliable" writers who can always be counted on to spew hate at George Bush, in particular, and Republicans in general.  She rates Seymour Hersh as a "crack investigative reporter" and has authored anti-Bush hit pieces such as  "The Dunce," "George W. Bush's Missing Year" and "Swaggering toward Election Day."

What is truly amazing about these pieces on the "mutiny" is that they appear to have been ready to go before the incident took place.  These folks had their stories straight and remarkably consistent in record time, even before the news had reached the regular news cycle on CNN, who jumped on this in record time. 

Folks, this is a set up.  But it's a set up that, like many of the Kerry camps dirty tricks, they've had to fire off prematurely to try to distract the news media from a Kerry gaffe.  Pulling the trigger on this was timed to try and keep the disastrous Mary Cheney attack off of the Sunday morning talk shows.  These soldiers are pawns who were told that they would be used to unseat a sitting President (with undoubted hints of vast rewards from a Kerry administration) but they are being sacrificed, just like pushing a pawn, to protect the dims' king.


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To: MizSterious
"Fox included, in case no one's noticed."

I noticed. . .but they are keeping a 'level head' so far. . .

121 posted on 10/17/2004 10:40:43 AM PDT by cricket (Don't lose your head. . vote Republican. . .)
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To: cajungirl
"Is anyone in MSM noting the connections here."

They would not go there regardless of the connections. . .

122 posted on 10/17/2004 10:42:02 AM PDT by cricket (Don't lose your head. . vote Republican. . .)
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To: Phsstpok
If the timing on this can be verified this may be our first "smoking gun."

She could have overnightted it.

123 posted on 10/17/2004 10:43:59 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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To: debboo
"I still say that Abu Grahib was a setup as well."

I just think that was a few hormonal 'Michael Moore types' having their way - in the halls of AbuGrahib. . .

This story needs to be dealt with - investigated quickly. . .

124 posted on 10/17/2004 10:46:09 AM PDT by cricket (Don't lose your head. . vote Republican. . .)
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To: Phsstpok
"If this is an organized plot to incite a mutiny in time of war, that folks, is treason."

this story stinks to high heaven,is George soros behind this?
125 posted on 10/17/2004 10:47:47 AM PDT by Charlespg (Civilization and freedom are only worthy of those who defend or support defending It)
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To: Phsstpok
"And what did Dunlap author that was worthy of study? The Origins of the American Military Coup of 2012.". . .

Thanks for your info. . .'yikes' on that title!.

Keeping an open mind as well; but am wincing at the Newsweek/Times et al stories being pounded out as we speak.

We have all been waiting for the bigger shoe to drop. . .and maybe it just has.

126 posted on 10/17/2004 10:52:17 AM PDT by cricket (Don't lose your head. . vote Republican. . .)
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To: Phsstpok

I don't know if anyone has posted this, but there is a big difference between http://www.citizensoldier.org and http://www.citizen-soldier.org . I assume the hyphenated on is the one that has Kerry's former buddies in charge.


127 posted on 10/17/2004 10:56:20 AM PDT by TN4Liberty (John Kerry has more positions than the Kama Sutra)
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To: Phsstpok
Democrat Party = security threat from specialist to General.. from copy boy/girl to Editor, from janitor to professor, from civil servant to elected offical...

Even Zell Miller carried water for Bill Clinton for two terms.. and should be watched closely.. you can take the dimocrat from the party but it's almost impossible to remove the dimocrat from the dumbocrat... spending any significant amount of time in the dimocrat party shows you could care less about America.. almost ALL neo-cons are ex-dimocrats..

Theres a civil war brewing, if not, there SHOULD BE...

Democracy is the road to socialism. Karl Marx

Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism. V.I. Lenin

The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism.- Karl Marx

128 posted on 10/17/2004 10:58:08 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Savage Rider
Out of these bunch of "protesters" one of them is going to spill the beans, IMHO. It is my understand the Military is investigating the matter now and I wouldn't be surprised if they come across some serving in the unit who know something about what sounds like an organized protest.

I agree with many of this thread. If you join the U. S. Armed Services, you join to defend your Country and that includes going into harms way to do so if necessary.

I believe DOD will get to the bottom on this, but I think it's going to take a Blogger to reveal the real truth!

Wonder how you do background checks on members in the unit?
Maybe an insider operative waiting for 15 minutes of fame in the Kerry Hall of Traitors.
129 posted on 10/17/2004 10:58:52 AM PDT by not2worry (What goes around comes around!)
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To: wardaddy

It's unraveling now.
Damn Bennie Thompson.

I'll be in Vicksburg one week from today,
and by God, on Monday morning, I am going
to get a HUGE LeSeuer sign for my corner lot!


130 posted on 10/17/2004 11:04:15 AM PDT by onyx (John "F" Kerry deserves to be the final casualty of the Vietnam War - Re-elect Bush/Cheney)
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To: Phsstpok
"The fuel was contaminated for the helicopters," Casey said his grandson told him. "It would have caused them to crash. ... They saved lives."

This is total B.S. This guy is in maintenance. He knows better! Any mechanic will tell you all of these vehicles have fuel filters. Anyone who has ever worked with diesel (which is very close to jet fuel or kerosene) knows water is commonly filtered out. If there is too much water the vehicle will "run out of gas". This would happen before take-off if it is "contaminated" to the extent he seems to be eluding to. Also if it had been rejected before it is more than likely they did not have the means to filter it at that particular installation. Perhaps they did have the capability where they were ordered to deliver it. I doubt it was throw-away, that makes no sense.

131 posted on 10/17/2004 11:04:29 AM PDT by Allosaurs_r_us (Carnivores for Conservatives!)
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To: Phsstpok; Truth29; All
In the earlier segment on Fox News; did they not play a taped recording of one of the female soldiers calling home to tell/warn/SOS her family of what was happening; and stating that they were all 'prisoners'?

I wondered why this would be taped; but then. . .maybe her family always tapes her calls - or perhaps it was an answering machine. Missed the beginning; but the Military has stated; they are not being held as prisoners. . .at least, now.

Anyone hear the call or know the explanation of why they had this available?

132 posted on 10/17/2004 11:04:30 AM PDT by cricket (Don't lose your head. . vote Republican. . .)
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To: not2worry
Out of these bunch of "protesters" one of them is going to spill the beans, IMHO.

I agree. They're amateurs.

133 posted on 10/17/2004 11:05:38 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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To: cricket

Supposedly it had been left on the family's answering machine. Mama must not have been home.


134 posted on 10/17/2004 11:06:03 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers. :: Kerry promises, but Bush delivers!)
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To: Phsstpok

Excellent. I hope people who can, run with this. I am just an ignoramus, but as soon as I read the first article about this, alarm bells rang. It stinks.

ThugDemocrats are just Evil.


135 posted on 10/17/2004 11:07:25 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Help elect a REAL, COURAGEOUS conservative to Congress - www.mikegabbard.com)
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To: MistyCA

Bump!


136 posted on 10/17/2004 11:07:52 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: not2worry

I agree that one of them will spill the beans. My guess is that not all of them were as gung-ho for this rebellion as the ringleaders, and will be only slightly reluctant to tell what they know.


137 posted on 10/17/2004 11:08:04 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers. :: Kerry promises, but Bush delivers!)
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To: vaudine
"Our election process is in trouble on all fronts thanks to the compliance of MSM and the viciousness of the DNC"

No question; and no doubt these folks are implementing first level revolutionary tactics to accomplish their goal.

The 'end justifies the means. . .' Period.

138 posted on 10/17/2004 11:08:59 AM PDT by cricket (Don't lose your head. . vote Republican. . .)
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To: MizSterious
"Supposedly it had been left on the family's answering machine. Mama must not have been home."

Thanks and 'for sure'. . .

139 posted on 10/17/2004 11:10:42 AM PDT by cricket (Don't lose your head. . vote Republican. . .)
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To: MizSterious

Mama was home all right. It had to be on tape for this to work. I can hear mama now. "You go, girl."


140 posted on 10/17/2004 11:11:29 AM PDT by raybbr
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