Posted on 10/13/2004 9:48:00 AM PDT by MindBender26
Kerry Lost Security Clearance!
Just spoke with reporter friend in DC. She is talking with former USN ONI types who worked on DOD/USN investigation that resulted in total loss of Kerry’s Navy security clearance.
Kerry had been granted a Top Secret by the Navy on October 11, 1967 based on a routine background investigation by Office of Naval Intelligence. A top secret clearance was required for his work at that time.
Obtaining and holding a security clearance of any level, especially TS or above, requires certain terms, obligations, commitments and conditions from the holder. One of the most important is the holder of the clearance must promptly and fully any contacts with any foreign officials, agents, etc.
Lieutenant Kerry left active duty with the Navy on January 3, 1970, but he still carried those obligations as a commissioned officer of the Naval Reserve. Without telling anyone and without receiving permission from superiors,FBI or counter-intelligence officers, he traveled to Paris in the summer of 1970. He claimed the purpose of his trip was a honeymoon with his first wife, Julia Thorne, but there was another hidden purpose.
Numerous North Vietnamese and Viet Cong intelligence agents and officials were in Paris, having arrived a year earlier for the “Peace Talks.” While in Paris, Kerry met with agents on a number of occasions and had extensive discussions with them about U.S. plans, procedures and how to get the U.S. to essentially surrender in Vietnam.
These clandestine meetings were never reported to the Navy.
Almost a year later, in April 1091, speaking as the leader of the Vietnam Veterans Against The War, Lieutenant Kerry told a Senate hearing about his meetings with enemy agents. Senior DOD officials wanted to prosecute him as a Naval Reserve officer for violating a number of laws and regulations, but this was vetoed by the Nixon White House. They didn’t want to give the anti-war crowd any additional PR ammunition.
However, the Navy immediately pulled Kerry’s security clearance. He became a Naval Reserve officer who was known not to be trusted. He kept his commission, but lost all access to any classified information. In the words of one of the now-retired agents, “Lieutenant Kerry wasn’t cleared to know what time it was!”
The bottom line is, Kerry was on the Intelligence Committee of the Senate after the Paris fiasco and another trip to support the Moscow-backed Sandinistas in Nicaragua.
Today, he couldn’t get a security clearance to pull KP duty, but he wants to be Commander in Chief of all our military in the War on Terrorism!
Here's what I'm understanding....
His clearance was pulled in '71 because of his Paris trip and this resulted in receiving an 'other than honorable discharge' of some kind. Then in '78, with the help of Carter, he got it changed to "Honorable".
Sound right?
MindBender26,
DO The Swift Boat Vets Know About This???
They Should, and a New Ad about this ought to be Broadcast across America...IMMEDIATELY!
SUPPORT THE SWIFT BOAT VETS...AND VOTE BUSH / CHENEY OUR TROOPS, OUR LIVES AND FAMILIES DEPEND ON A BUSH / CHENEY VICTORY!
I have been wondering the same thing ever since I saw this -- is this going to be the Swift Boat ad that gets a lot of traction. I am convinced they know the whole Kerry file and that he is nothing but a pack of lies.
After all the turmoil and controversy during Clinton's regime, why on earth did the Democrats vote Kerry, whose regime certainly would be full of even more turmoil? Didn't they have enough during Clinton years?
"National security reasons."
I thought that answer might show up.(thank you) - Anyways, Kerry has displayed every conceivable TREASONOUS action both physical and psychological since his return from Nam, and convince me that I never want to see him POTUS.
I was under the impression that Clinton upgraded it as well but then I figured I must be wrong when someone posted the date. I am beginning what I heard originally was fact and Clinton backdated the form. I don't put anything past these lowlifes. I cannot remember who told me it was updated before Kerry could sit on the Intelligence Committee.
Kerry's been zotted? :)
Nothing you stated is based on fact, just hearsay and fantasy. We have the official naval records that say otherwise.
The Clintonistas never got them is what I have been told.
How does this conflict with official naval records?
My wife caught me saying Zot after a few of Kerry's comments. She leaned over, gave me a kiss and said "you poor little man, you spend too much time on FR."
Security clearances didn't mean squat during the Clinton years and won't mean a thing during the Kerry Administration. I wonder if Tereza will allow condoms as their favorite "X"mas Tree ornaments?
Bush had better kick some a$$ tonight or he is toast.
I saw that shortly after I posted - wasn't intended to insult (and you're probably tired of people reading the post and answering before reading farther . . .), sorry.
turns out Ruiner isnt a troll...he forgot the sarcasm tag
Fuhgetaboutit! Snowball, meet hell.
Kerry received an Honorable Discharge on Feb 16, 1978. These stories about Carter or Clinton upgrading his discharge are nonsense. People are making them up out of whole cloth. We should focus our efforts on Kerry's antiwar activities and what he did while still a member of the inactive reserves subject to recall. Kerry has tried to hide the fact that he was still a member of the reserves during the period 1970-72. The timeline on his website has been revised to create the impression that he was discharged in 1970. No mention is made of the date of his HD or the fact that he was transferred from the inactive reserves to the standby reserves in July 1972.
Kerry received an Honorable Discharge on Feb 16, 1978. These stories about Carter or Clinton upgrading his discharge are nonsense. People are making them up out of whole cloth. We should focus our efforts on Kerry's antiwar activities and what he did while still a member of the inactive reserves subject to recall. Kerry has tried to hide the fact that he was still a member of the reserves during the period 1970-72. The timeline on his website has been revised to create the impression that he was discharged in 1970. No mention is made of the date of his HD or the fact that he was transferred from the inactive reserves to the standby reserves in July 1972.
What was he doing on the Senate Intelligence Committee?
It doesn't matter to virtually half of the electorate. You better do everything you can to help get out the vote.
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