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LIVE THREAD: The 2004 Vice Presidential Debate: Cheney v. Edwards
Free Republic ^ | October 5, 2004

Posted on 10/05/2004 3:59:57 PM PDT by Howlin

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To: ArmyBratCutie

LOL!!! Brining up Edwards words about Kerry driving us to a deficit.


2,921 posted on 10/05/2004 6:55:49 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: rhombus
Kerry's record in the Senate: TAX INCREASES!

Good job, Mr. Cheney!

2,922 posted on 10/05/2004 6:55:50 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: All

Cheney has a strong hand on taxes. Well done.


2,923 posted on 10/05/2004 6:55:52 PM PDT by Poser (Joining Belly Girl in the Pajamahadin)
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To: TomGuy

Keep posting those graphs - I can't seem to get 'em to come up ...


2,924 posted on 10/05/2004 6:55:55 PM PDT by 11th_VA (Kill Babies NOT Terrorists - Kerry '04)
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
Why oh why oh why didn't I pop a tape in the VCR for this debate?

I love Dick Cheney.

2,925 posted on 10/05/2004 6:55:55 PM PDT by alnick (US forces armed with what? Spitballs??)
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To: All

Was this guy really a lawyer!??!?!?!??! I can't believe he said, "Now I want to be honest with the American people." You never ever say something like that because it implies the other things you are saying are lies. I can't believe this guy is so dumb.


2,926 posted on 10/05/2004 6:55:57 PM PDT by killjoy (Don't give me any of that intelligent life crap, just give me something I can blow up.)
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To: maggiefluffs

No wonder politicians fool around on their wife's.


2,927 posted on 10/05/2004 6:55:58 PM PDT by eternity (From here to...)
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To: KellyAdmirer
KERRY VOTED FOR TAX INCREASES 98 TIMES.
2,928 posted on 10/05/2004 6:55:59 PM PDT by Happygal (liberalism - a narrow tribal outlook largely founded on class prejudice)
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To: condi2008

Handsome man then and now.


2,929 posted on 10/05/2004 6:55:59 PM PDT by earlyamerican
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Around debate season in every election year to come they'll be replaying that one.


2,930 posted on 10/05/2004 6:56:00 PM PDT by StoneColdGOP (Family values don't stop at the Rio Grande... so the Constitution means nothing outside textbooks.)
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To: KellyAdmirer

Did anyone catch Edwards taking a drink and almost missing his mouth?


2,931 posted on 10/05/2004 6:56:00 PM PDT by Huber (Kerry/Edwards = "Tax 'em & Sue 'em" . Vote Bush/Cheney '04)
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To: Huber

THEY HAVE A PLAN FOR EDUCATION!!!IT WILL BE ROLLED BACK TO MOST CHILDREN LEFT BEHIND!!


2,932 posted on 10/05/2004 6:56:00 PM PDT by luvie (WE will not waver;WE will not tire;WE will not falter!)
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To: NYC Republican; Howlin

FoR some, the debate was in the can a long time ago.. ;-)

Cheney, Edwards Clash Over Iraq in Debate

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&e=1&u=/ap/20041006/ap_on_el_pr/debate_rdp

By TOM RAUM, Associated Press Writer

CLEVELAND - In a debate at close quarters, Democratic Sen. John Edwards (news - web sites) bluntly accused Vice President Dick Cheney (news - web sites) Tuesday night of "not being straight with the American people" when it comes to Iraq (news - web sites).


"I'm confident that in fact we'll get the job done," insisted the vice president, who said reconstruction efforts are continuing and elections are scheduled for January. Cheney said it is essential to view the war in Iraq as part of a global war on terror.


The 90-minute debate format encouraged give-and-take, and both men went at it eagerly.


Cheney noted that Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry (news - web sites) had opposed the first Persian Gulf War (news - web sites), and said it was "part of a consistent pattern over time of always being on the wrong side of the fence."


Edwards said Cheney had previously suggested ties between the terrorists responsible for the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks and Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein (news - web sites). "You've gone around the country suggesting that there is some connection. There is not," Edwards said.


Cheney, 63, and Edwards, 51, sat a few feet apart around a semicircular table on a stage at Case Western Reserve University. Gwen Ifill of PBS, moderator for the evening, faced them.


It was the only debate of the campaign for Cheney and his Democratic opponent.


Kerry and Bush debated for 90 minutes last week in an encounter widely viewed as a victory for the Democratic challenger. The four-term Massachusetts senator has gained ground in the polls in the days since, narrowing the gap with the president in some nationwide surveys and moving into a statistical tie in others.


Bush and Kerry will debate twice more, on Friday in St. Louis and Oct. 13 in Arizona.


In a reprise of comments Kerry made in last week's debate, Edwards said the United States has paid 90 percent of the costs and suffered 90 percent of the casualties in the war in Iraq.


The figure is "dead wrong," Cheney replied, adding that the Iraqi security forces have suffered almost 50 percent of the casualties. "Your facts are just wrong," he said — again, for emphasis.


Edwards accused the Bush administration of the "height of hypocrisy," saying it had sent troops into war without sufficient body armor and by lobbying to cut their pay.


"It's hard to know where to start, there's so many inaccuracies there," Cheney replied.


Cheney also said of Kerry, "I don't believe he has the qualities needed to be commander in chief."


The Republican said Kerry voted to authorize the war, then voted against an $87 billion aid package for Iraq and Afghanistan (news - web sites). He said Democratic primary politics were at work at that point. "If they couldn't stand up to pressures that Howard Dean (news - web sites) represented, how can we expect them to stand up to al-Qaida?" he said.


2,933 posted on 10/05/2004 6:56:01 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: ErnBatavia

Will MSM try to spin this as "no clear winner?" Or will they admit the truth?


2,934 posted on 10/05/2004 6:56:19 PM PDT by Rumierules
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To: Boazo

Flush the Johns


2,935 posted on 10/05/2004 6:56:25 PM PDT by weegee (What's the provenance, Kenneth? Where did the forged SeeBS memo come from?)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Edwards said something like "Kerry's determined to fight" Cheney needs to come right back with "Hell, no he's not, he ran 30 years ago from the fight, stabbed our military guys in the back, and you sit there with a straight face and try to pass off the lie that he's determined to fight?" That's a bold-faced lie, Senator" Do you know WHY there's ONLY 1 VEEP debate....because Senator Edwards backside will be so sore from the spanking Cheney delivers tonight that he won't be able to sit for a week!


2,936 posted on 10/05/2004 6:56:30 PM PDT by princess leah
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To: valleygal

Hey valleygal!

Cheney pointing out Edwards' own criticism of Kerry's plan during primaries!


2,937 posted on 10/05/2004 6:56:33 PM PDT by Otta B Sleepin ("Iraq isn't Vietnam, it's Guadalcanal." Powl Smith)
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To: GOPrincess

Edwards' overdramatic pen scratching is a split screen tactic to take attention away from Cheney.


2,938 posted on 10/05/2004 6:56:34 PM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: Taffini

Kerry has voted over 600 times for tax cuts????!!!

What is Edwards smokin?


2,939 posted on 10/05/2004 6:56:37 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Taffini

NRO's The Corner seem to think Edwards is doing much better than we do here, although they also like Cheney. I'm baffled. They think Edwards is getting away with calling Cheney a liar and it could be the story of the debate if not properly rebutted. I feel like I'm not watching the same debate.


2,940 posted on 10/05/2004 6:56:38 PM PDT by GOPrincess
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