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FR Live Thread: Bush Kerry - First Debate - Thread 2 - Here we go!

Posted on 09/30/2004 5:57:19 PM PDT by Admin Moderator

Thread 1 - Pre-Debate discussion


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; debate; debates; electionpresident; firstdebate; globalpoints; kerry
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To: MNlurker

{I think we're going to see Cheney drop the hammer on every single point we wished Bush would have hammered on tonite. }


You think?

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3,101 posted on 09/30/2004 8:58:12 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Just cause you're a Vietnam Vet doesn't give you the right to spoil thing for the rest of us. I praise your service to the country, as you should praise mine, but that doesn't give you a blank check to to do whatever you like to whomever you like, and then defend it with your war service.

The truth is your graphics are preventing folks from participating in this important discussion because it's slowing down the server... and anyone on a modem line is getting entirely blocked out, too.

It's just not fair, Tonkin, and you d*mned well know it.


3,102 posted on 09/30/2004 8:58:18 PM PDT by In The Defense of Liberty (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: BrucefromMtVernon
Correction please! Bush is an IDIOT. I'm tired of his anguished stammering.

And YOU're one of the TROLLS on line tonight.

Say goodnight, BruceTheTrollFromMtVernon. Don't forget to button up your jammies flap.

3,103 posted on 09/30/2004 8:58:35 PM PDT by Lee Shore (Oy, vay!)
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To: furball4paws

Don't lurk! We need help fighting off the dumb trolls!


3,104 posted on 09/30/2004 8:58:53 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: In The Defense of Liberty
I have to wonder about YOUR political leanings

I was thinking the same thing about YOURS!

3,105 posted on 09/30/2004 8:58:56 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma
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To: In The Defense of Liberty
"GW lost it.. he was indecisive, weak, and wavering in his voice and demeanor."

And you support this traitor!


3,106 posted on 09/30/2004 8:59:07 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (MAKE SURE YOU ARE CURRENTLY REGISTERED AND VOTE Nov 2nd!)
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To: TonyInOhio

I liked your observation as I've read through this morass ... the President framed Skerry as inconsistent and as a dangerous leader when consistency is essential. The President also portrayed Skerry as insulting the efforts and sacrifice of our courageous, heroic military ... and that is what the average citizen will remember from this first debate. Now, back to reading ...


3,107 posted on 09/30/2004 8:59:12 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: prairiebreeze

I feel the same! Bush is a post 911 President! Kerry will be a Pre 911 President! That came across clearly!


3,108 posted on 09/30/2004 8:59:18 PM PDT by luknskill
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To: antceecee

Folks...we are going to be hearing the words "Global Test" constantly over the next few days. This is going to be a killer.


3,109 posted on 09/30/2004 8:59:35 PM PDT by TheExploited (R-Illinois)
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To: Cosmo

Nope. I wasn't dissing W. W held off someone who is better debator when it comes to strategy; but, worse when it comes to the facts. Kerry should have done better and only managed a draw. That speaks well of Bush and poorly for Kerry. I have problems with our president; but, I still love the guy. And I think Kerry is a compulsive liar. Objectively speaking, a few more wheaties and Bush would have cleaned the floor with Kerry. I think he was trying too much to play nice. But that's not necessarily a bad thing. He's been able to play nice and still be effective before. The difference is Bush comes off as real when being nice. Kerry comes off condescending.

The left side of my tube could have broken a couple of times tonight. I ain't voting for the president; but, it ain't because I don't love and mostly agree with the guy.


3,110 posted on 09/30/2004 8:59:40 PM PDT by Havoc (Reagan was right and so was McKinley. Down with free trade.)
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To: Concerned
Sorry, Sinkspur, but Kerry confidently referred to knowing the question would be coming up later in the debate.

Yes, Kerry did say that!

3,111 posted on 09/30/2004 8:59:42 PM PDT by rintense (Results matter.)
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To: mewzilla
Now for the $64,000 question: After this, can anyone tell me just what the Heck is Kerry's Iraq policy?

I hate to say it, but it really doesn't matter.

Televised "debates" are about style points, targeted to the uninformed mushy undecided-class. Failing to understand and address the target audience is always a fatal mistake.

IMO, following this "debate", I give Kerry an (8) and President Bush a (6). Kerry did what he had to do, and GW was horribly unprepared. Lehrer helped Kerry at every opportunity. This debate was a huge missed opportunity for GW, and he has himself and his advisers to blame. This is not a practice game, it's the real thing.

BTW, the Republicans have been once again snookered by the leftist mass media. Communist Lehrer as moderator? Good God almighty! They remind me of how Charlie keeps agreeing to Lucy as the place kicker. Lehrer was a clever slime-ball, as usual.

3,112 posted on 09/30/2004 8:59:52 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (CBS's story is sinking faster than Uncle Ted's Oldsmobile.)
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To: MichelleWSC

"Bush looked like a deer caught in the headlights tonight."

OTOH, you ACT like a deer caught in the headlights. Bush was real, he tells the truth and KERRY LIED!
You only wish the game were over....


3,113 posted on 09/30/2004 9:00:00 PM PDT by antceecee
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To: Damifino
The president is NOT a classically good debater.OTOH,he IS very good relating with people and he had his facts down pat.

Kerry is a classic debater,but 1)flip flopped 2)said he would arm Iran with NUKES,of all things 3)denigrated ALL of our allies 4)lied and then lied and lied again 5)was booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooring as all getout.

What the complainers wanted,President Bush to somehow nuke Kerry,was NEVER going to happen;such things seldom if ever do,in these debates!

There just isn't enough time,for anyone,to do what you wanted and Weld was right,when he said that in debates,Kerry spews out so many lies,that it's impossible to correct them all and still get one's own points across.

Yes, pundits WILL parse the speeches tomorrow and even the most ardent Dem supporters aren't going to be able to spin Kerry performance,all that well.

3,114 posted on 09/30/2004 9:00:10 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Twinkie
Twinkie's head hurts!

ROFL !!!

3,115 posted on 09/30/2004 9:00:14 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis (FR = A pajama party 24/7)
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To: Mo1

The "mess" in Iraq?

Are they referring to a war?


3,116 posted on 09/30/2004 9:00:15 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: In The Defense of Liberty

You are wrong!


3,117 posted on 09/30/2004 9:00:23 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: vaudine

The debate was about foreign policy. No one expected to hear about domestic affairs at this one.


3,118 posted on 09/30/2004 9:00:26 PM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: thoughtomator

It is only a proposal that will have to be voted on in congress and it will never pass even if it gets out of committee. The idea is to get the younger vote out for Kerry and they are of course being lied to. A proposal is not the same as being actually 'in the works'.


3,119 posted on 09/30/2004 9:00:28 PM PDT by mountainfolk (God bless President George Bush)
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To: jwalsh07
The Pres is a lot smarter and sharper than most here at FR. He recognised that the major gaffe in tonights deabte was Kerry's "Global Test" which he called him on immediately. Rememeber those words, "Global Test", you'll be hearing them a lot very soon

exactly right!

As Zell Miller stated 'Kerry wants to outsource our Defense'

3,120 posted on 09/30/2004 9:00:37 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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