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BREAKING FROM HANNITY: CBS Producer in Dallas source of Documents
Hannity.com | 09/10/2004 | Hannity

Posted on 09/10/2004 12:47:25 PM PDT by WoodstockCat

Hannity just said a story will be filed later today that from sources inside CBS that the source of the documents is also the one who provided the Abu Grihab prison photos.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 60minutes; badoom; cbs; killian; liarsanddamnliars; media; mediabias; mediashillsforkerry; napalminthemorning; rather; rathergate; selectricgate
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To: muawiyah

I guess then the question becomes, did the author of the forgeries select the kerning option? I have read elsewhere that document experts, having examined the memos, found no evidence of kerning. I think the points made about kerning in this thread and elsewhere are moot.


641 posted on 09/10/2004 5:44:44 PM PDT by delacoert (imperat animus corpori, et paretur statim: imperat animus sibi, et resistitur. -AUGUSTINI)
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To: imintrouble

What I was saying, basically, is that there were different font sizes, but not THAT different. As you point out, it might be humanly possible that someone could order or have made a special selectric ball for scientific work or the like which could conceivably produce such a superscript of such a size, but the odds are probably one in a billion that a National Guard officer in Texas would have that equipment or would bother to use it in a private memo for the record which was unlikely ever to be seen by anyone else unless the s*** hit the fan sometime in the future.


642 posted on 09/10/2004 5:49:32 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: js1138

You must be as old as I am.


643 posted on 09/10/2004 5:53:32 PM PDT by Mach9 (.)
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To: MineralMan

I think you are giving them too much credit for their intelligence. These people THINK they are the smartest people on the face of the earth and us 'Great Unwashed', would never catch on to their deception.

There are too many people getting nervous, just because of what Dan Rather said. As far as I'm concerned, all I needed to see was that overlay and it matched perfectly. END OF CASE.

Lets face it, how many on this forum, would have noticed the forgery, if it were not for one person? That's all it takes is ONE person to point it out and it snowballs. That's why the forger thought it wouldn't be noticed (if he was aware of it himself)

You should also consider the fact that it was picked up run, and is STILL running with the media, these people are VERY concerned about what story they back up and report.

This thing has taken on a life of it's own and in the end it IS going to proven forgery to everyone.


644 posted on 09/10/2004 5:54:34 PM PDT by RetSignman (Forever Optimistic)
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To: Dog

HIM? Hmm, maybe it's that woman - Mape...


645 posted on 09/10/2004 5:55:07 PM PDT by Libertina (Thank God we have President Bush in the White House.)
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To: jq2

Be of better cheer. There is absolutely NO WAY this document is accurate. I bought in 1975 a USED IBM Executive (less than 5 yrs. old). It's too frustrating for any old typist to use. It's the LAST thing in the world any E-5's going to type on--much less an 06 who doesn't type!


646 posted on 09/10/2004 5:56:40 PM PDT by Mach9 (.)
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To: shhrubbery!
"Could it be Hackworth has a few phony medals too? Just speculating, of course. But if so, guilty knowledge could be a factor in motivating Hackworth to work behind the scenes -- against Bush, and in favor of a fellow phony."

Very possible.

I visited his website when I heard he was the one that handed over the photos of Abu Grabu. I then emailed the A-Hole and told him what I thought of him. He replied and told me to go take my meds.

He is on G. Gordon Liddy alot. I flip him off when he comes on. Literally.

647 posted on 09/10/2004 6:00:52 PM PDT by auggy (http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-DownhomeKY /// Check out My USA Photo album & Fat Files)
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To: Republic; Howlin

When they cannot win the cheat/lie, when they can't cheat/lie they disrupt - straight out of the Clinton playbook. I'm feeling a big disrupt coming on. And a 'put some ice on it' event.


648 posted on 09/10/2004 6:02:23 PM PDT by My back yard (Post # 47 tags it)
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To: JFC
Who knew TIMES ROMAN would ever have such a place in HISTORY!

Wonder if Nostradamus predicted this..... LOL!

649 posted on 09/10/2004 6:02:25 PM PDT by b4its2late (John John Kerry Edwards change positions more often than a Nevada prostitute!!!)
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To: delacoert
Interestingly enough CBS' "defense" pointed to repeated copying and recopying as a serious source of change that could be dealt with only if we had the original documents.

This suggests that CBS does not have the originals AND they themselves have identified characteristics in the test that would not have existed given the technology used to produce the originals.

Kerning is not yet a moot issue ~ it may well be the only issue and you better believe it's going to be highly relevant in the various lawsuits CBS initiates against the folks who set them up ~ this sort of stuff drives out good paying advertisers you know.

650 posted on 09/10/2004 6:05:07 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Howlin

Anyone know if Mary Mates is still a 60 Minutes producer ?


651 posted on 09/10/2004 6:06:24 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Squantos

Earlier on this thread some have posted about her. I think she is still a producer with CBS.


652 posted on 09/10/2004 6:07:57 PM PDT by abnegation (John Kerry makes any sane person ill.)
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To: mass55th
Well can they explain how General "Buck" Staudt was interfering with Killian doing his job and trying to "sugarcoat" Bush's evaluation in 1973, when he had retired the year before?

Sure. Bush lied. Any other questions?

653 posted on 09/10/2004 6:10:02 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (You have entered a "No Girlie Men" zone. Thank you for not whining and sniveling.)
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To: browardchad
Almost anyone, regardless of typing skills, can knock out a decent-looking document in MS Word, using default settings (as this doc used). The average user doesn't know much about fonts or spacing, only that the typefaces look somewhat similar. Heck, anyone below the age of 30 might not even know typewriters ever existed!

Most political hacks are young folks, inexperienced and ignorant.

...but suppose the originator never thought these documents would be publicly distributed (by the White House, no less) and thus would not subjected to the resulting scrutiny?

Or posted on a web site?

654 posted on 09/10/2004 6:20:42 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (You have entered a "No Girlie Men" zone. Thank you for not whining and sniveling.)
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To: abnegation; Grampa Dave; Jeff Head
This has her "odor" on it....... gonna be interesting tale of woe here.

Spin doctors calling in the specialists if she's there. BTW she was very much behind the OKC bombing event reporting , trials and revelations of suspected islamakazis etc.....

Stay safe !

655 posted on 09/10/2004 6:21:06 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Khan Noonian Singh
I think they are talking about different documents, released earlier. Note that they don't talk about the font, other than the "th". They also talk about the PO Box for the unit, but I think we've established that is either correct, or was merely copied from an earlier document.

They are wrong about orders not being sent to a Guardman's home address. Where else would they send them. It's not like he's in the squadron office, or even on the base, every day. All my orders as a reservist and guardsman came to my house.

656 posted on 09/10/2004 6:42:06 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: rolling_stone

Sounds good to me.


657 posted on 09/10/2004 6:42:31 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat (These Colors Never Run( 7.62) "See Ya"ll At The VA Clinic" "Xin Loi My Boy")
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To: WoodstockCat
Another accurate prediction from your humble correspondent.
658 posted on 09/10/2004 6:51:39 PM PDT by HAL9000
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To: Squantos

CBS: Not Sinking!

Capt. Rather On Bridge!

'Rats Deserting Ship!

659 posted on 09/10/2004 7:00:28 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Jeff Gannon
"Could it be???? "

"CBS producer Mary Mapes"

[ Jeff Gannon ] - You are correct.

Hi Jeff! Don't know if you remember me, I was a stand alone supporter of our troops, held a sign saying 'This war was Saddam's CHOICE!', outside our White House a few years back. You introduced yourself to me, we chatted, and watched a bunch of women line up to get some kind of special tour through the WH. When a guy tried to intimidate me (he was standing with a bunch of 'pink ladies', had lots of signs on the ground by WH front lawn fence, you helped me out! Even took my picture! LOL

Jeff-something really bothers me about Mary....Colonel Killian's son, in an interview with Sean on his radio show today, said that Mary contacted him and his mother several weeks ago, asking about documents and such. When Killian's son gave her a list of names of people who had flown with President Bush back then, one who had bunked with him, one who was President Bush's commander-Mary directly told him she was not interested because they were in the BUSH CAMP! I guess she discovered Killian's son and wife were also Bush supporters, since the left THEM out of their story, too!

It bothers me that this is how CBS laid the foundation for their so called investigative report!

A lot.

Lives can be ruined over this sort of offensive and unfair, unbalanced and slanderous type of coverage.

Are there not any legal standards that CBS has to answer to? Thanks.

660 posted on 09/10/2004 7:02:45 PM PDT by Republic (Terri Schiavo,saved by TERRI's LAW after 7 days of starvation, fights ACLU-Felos to keep law intact)
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