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Fox News to break forged document story
Fox News | 9/9/2004 | Fox News

Posted on 09/09/2004 3:10:33 PM PDT by Semper Paratus

Brit Hume announced story coming up now on National Guard docmunents


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; bush; camejo; cbs; cheney; danrather; didbushcollaborate; didbushmeetwithenemy; dubya; edwards; election; forgery; gwb; kerry; kerryswaratrocities; killian; mediabias; nader; napalminthemorning; nationalguard; rather; ratherbiased; seebsnews; wasbushinparis; whatdidbushknow
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To: PhiKapMom
If you think the ANG had Executive typewriters back in the early 70's then I have some swamp land for sale. I have an executive typewriter in a box that I just dug out -- no "th" on the Executive typewriter.

The "Executive" typewriter predates the Selectric by a couple decades, and the "Executive" model was not an unusual business appliance in its day. I don't have price lists to refer to, but think that at the time the Selectric was introduced, the price of a Selectric and the "Executive" were similar.

Also, the "Executive" model had replaceable type-bars to facilitate making "special" characters. I don't know if IBM offered "superscript th", etc., but they may have. That sort of touch would "add class" to the correspondence of the day, and IBM may have offered parts to do just that. It's been long enough ago that it'll take somebody with an old archive of catalogs or manuals to find out.

I'm not saying the letter was done on an Executive, but to YOUR point that a Selectric couldn't have done it, I agreed. The Selectric lacks proportional font spacing. So, IF it was done on a typewriter, the typewriter was most likely an IBM Executive Model.

901 posted on 09/09/2004 6:29:34 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: cyncooper

"since Kerry got such a tough time about the Swift Vets it's only fair to give GWB a hard time "

This is what goes for journalistic integrity??

A commander's memos to himself vs. Kerry's problems with the most official records??

They are more ignorant than I thought if they put these things on the same plane . . .

But, as you say, they trade a hard time for a hard time, and this is the best accusation against Bush they could find?? Happy days in that case.


902 posted on 09/09/2004 6:29:42 PM PDT by AMDG&BVMH
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To: SolomoninSouthDakota

I still try to make letters look darker by striking the key harder. ;o)


903 posted on 09/09/2004 6:32:32 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: Cboldt

Your comments are correct -- Executive was fixed and Selectric had the Balls -- Microsoft Word it was and dumb if you ask me.


904 posted on 09/09/2004 6:33:15 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Oklahoma is Reagan Country and now Bush Country -- Kerry is DOOMED!)
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To: TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl

You still do, while I never did. I tend to over use them, but the one before the "and" was optional while I was growing up & for some reason, I never felt one belonged there.


905 posted on 09/09/2004 6:35:07 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: OSHA

What exactly is that supposed to prove?


906 posted on 09/09/2004 6:35:09 PM PDT by comebacknewt
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To: GoLightly

"Did they teach you to put in a double, single or leave it to the discretion of the typist?"



I really can't remember if they said anything at all. I think my elementary school teachers taught us to leave two spaces after sentences when we handwrote, and I kept doing it when I first used a computer.


907 posted on 09/09/2004 6:35:25 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: Petronski

"...That's freakin' nice..."

DAM@ED STRAIGHT!!!!! Wouldn't it be great if those on this forum were ultimately responsible for driving the final nail in Lurch's coffin? That would really give FreeRepublic uncontested legitamacy. Thanks Jim Robb for allowing us the oppurtunity to formulate change. Thanks also to all those who have their resources to affect change. This is your day. I'm trying not to get too giddy about this turn of events. I hope this is all true. So many dims could be nailed with this. This needs to be drawn like a pistol at every oppurtunity to show how the other side is. Expose them for the hypocrates, liars, thieves they are. Bush/Cheney '04!!!!

I am a proud FReeper and I approve this posting.


908 posted on 09/09/2004 6:35:32 PM PDT by NCC-1701 (ISLAM IS A CULT, PURE AND SIMPLE!!!!! IT MUST BE ERADICATED FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH.)
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To: bootyist-monk
Also, see the centering issue that is posted on another thread. Perfectly centered text at the top of one memo (and in perfect alignment with MS Word). Impossible to do on a typewriter. These people are such idiots.

Boy do I remember that, back in the day. Tabbing to the center and backspacing once for every two letters in the title....

909 posted on 09/09/2004 6:39:05 PM PDT by BreitbartSentMe (Now EX-Democrat!)
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To: comebacknewt

I allegedly a proportional font (according to them),but it don't look like one to me. I guess it proves that they are DUmmies.


910 posted on 09/09/2004 6:40:43 PM PDT by OSHA (Given an infinite number of dumbocrats with an infinite number of typewriters.............)
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To: HRoarke

"I'm no psychologist but I think there is definitely a bit of "rifle envy" going on out there."

Makes sense to me! A lot of sense.

There is something in the human spirit that yearns to defend and protect. Not only manhood is so directed, but look at the fierce love of motherhood (the non-abortive kind, sigh . . .)

In the modern age, weaklings can survive without physical strength or knowledge of arms. But look how shrill they are -- they are trying to defend their contrarian notions with the only weapons they personally can muster -- shrill statements, lies, . . . So shrill, one must conclude "I think he doest protest too much . . ."

The more others honorably serve at arms (or honorably bear children) the more and more shrill they become . . .

They can't bear silent heroism. It is an indictment. They have to attack and try to destroy it.

Hey, I'm on a roll here! ;)






911 posted on 09/09/2004 6:41:06 PM PDT by AMDG&BVMH
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To: comebacknewt

He was saying that GHWBush would not have asked for special favors...Geraldine did not look good taking up for Barnes...I would not put MY credibility on the line for a man like Barnes....His own daughter thinks he isn't being truthful..Barnes is a pol and a wheeler dealer...You wouldn't want to buy a used car from him.


912 posted on 09/09/2004 6:41:23 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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To: Cboldt

Having worked for the AF in the 70's, I can guarantee you that they were very skinflint when it came to new typewriters and every other kind of equipment in an office. No way would they have purchased anything extra for Executive typewriters when offices had to almost give blood to get them approved through the supply system.


913 posted on 09/09/2004 6:42:06 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Oklahoma is Reagan Country and now Bush Country -- Kerry is DOOMED!)
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To: OSHA
Gotcha. Unfortunately for them, most aren't disputing the fact that proportional fonts existed back then. They clearly did.

However, it is the entire combination of factors (as outlined on this and other threads) that make this document highly suspect.

914 posted on 09/09/2004 6:43:21 PM PDT by comebacknewt
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To: OSHA

Are you/they, referring to the font?


915 posted on 09/09/2004 6:44:49 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: OSHA

LOL


916 posted on 09/09/2004 6:45:44 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: MEG33

I agree Geraldine was bad, but Armey did not help us. He easily could have if he had been prepared.


917 posted on 09/09/2004 6:45:48 PM PDT by comebacknewt
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To: ican'tbelieveit

I've been a word processor (among other things for many years), and using the space after the number of substituting a lower-case "l" for a "1" will also circumvent the superscripted "th" or "st". However, there is a way to bypass it once it superscripts it (or any other Autocorrect action) in the process of typing it. It's hard to describe (and I don't want to help the DNC out!), but I've done it often.


918 posted on 09/09/2004 6:45:53 PM PDT by bootless (Never Forget - And Never Again)
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To: AMDG&BVMH

And it doesn't even make sense. Accordiing to that theory (and it was Podhoretz's theory), Kerry should have been given a close look due to Bush getting hounded back in February and March over this stupid Guard issue.

They are just desperate to get ANYTHING on Bush and they keep failing.


919 posted on 09/09/2004 6:46:32 PM PDT by cyncooper (We're mad as Zell and we're not going to take it anymore!)
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To: All

I for one just want the DUmmies to tell us their position on "official" documents. Sandy Berger wants to steal them, and Dan Rather wants to forge them.


920 posted on 09/09/2004 6:46:38 PM PDT by Truth Table
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