Can't hurt. That's the only way we can get the news out there and keep it going.
I am SO fed up with the FnKerry campaign. I've never seen the likes of this.
Posted on 09/09/2004 7:33:57 AM PDT by TastyManatees
New Questions On Bush Guard Duty
CBS) The military records of the two men running for president have become part of the political arsenal in this campaign – a tool for building up, or blowing up, each candidate’s credibility as America's next commander-in-chief.
While Sen. Kerry has been targeted for what he did in Vietnam, President Bush has been criticized for avoiding Vietnam by landing a spot in the Texas Air National Guard - and then failing to meet some of his obligations.
Did then-Lt. Bush fulfill all of his military obligations? And just how did he land that spot in the National Guard in the first place? Correspondent Dan Rather has new information on the president’s military service – and the first-ever interview with the man who says he pulled strings to get young George W. Bush into the Texas Air National Guard.
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But 60 Minutes has obtained a number of documents we are told were taken from Col. Killian's personal file. Among them, a never-before-seen memorandum from May 1972, where Killian writes that Lt. Bush called him to talk about "how he can get out of coming to drill from now through November."
Lt. Bush tells his commander "he is working on a campaign in Alabama…. and may not have time to take his physical." Killian adds that he thinks Lt. Bush has gone over his head, and is "talking to someone upstairs."
Col. Killian died in 1984. 60 Minutes consulted a handwriting analyst and document expert who believes the material is authentic.
(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...
Thanks. The paper limited me to 300 words. Looks like another letter needs to be crafted...
By the way, before programming became common ... how many 1970's era-military fighter pilots used "feedback" in memo's they were writing to themselves?The term 'feedback' is an extremely common engineering term, including the field of aeronautics (flying) as Bush and his unit were intimately involved with; perhaps you need to explain more fully your objection here ...
I did the same thing with Open Office (downloadable for free at openoffice.org). With standard margins, using standard Times Roman 12 point font, the line breaks happen exactly where they do in the supposedly "authentic" memos. Amazing.
Apparently, some jerk just opened his word processor, typed these memos, printed them off, and then ran them through the copier enough times to make them look old.
And CBS puts this crap out there as "authentic", as pronounced by it's "experts".
For those who don't believe it by now, the mainstream media is your enemy.
Can't hurt. That's the only way we can get the news out there and keep it going.
I am SO fed up with the FnKerry campaign. I've never seen the likes of this.
At least FOX gets the facts out there and has both sides.
Unlike CBS and the rest of the Alphabet News channels.
Xerox, if I remember right, had the card-type typewriters that were used to duplicate form letters or long documents. But I don't think a letter as short as these, or memos for the record would have been produced in that way. Besides, I don't think they justified the text.
I don't think you're going to get a lot of arguments on this.
1stLt is the Air Force shorthand. Army is 1LT. However, this memo uses 1st.Lt. (with periods, which is not used). Same for the appearance of "Lt. Colonel" (Air Force shorthand is Lt Col, Army shorthand is LTC...Killian has signed other documents available as Lt Col - no period and shorthand Col).
I'm speechless.
Forgery
Good graphics.Thanks. SerpentDove made the GIF with Rather and the pencil.
Just had my husband look at these. As an FYI, he worked for Adobe Systems for many years and is an expert in typography. Took him about two seconds to say they are fakes. He also said that they should have had him do the forgeries, he would have done a much better job. HA!
"[I]f you were accurate, it was easy to use."Well, let's see if everyone else shares your assessment that the typewriter would be "easy to use". Here is a link explaining how it worked (with pictures). O.K., so other than purchasing the most expensive typewriter on the market for the purpose of typing up notes to your personal files, all you have to do is:
1. Type a line.Well, that certainly doesn't seem like a giant pain in the posterior...
2. Record the number and color of the typed line on the typewriter's ruler...separately and by hand.
3. Type the next line, repeat recording process, until done with entire document.
4. Re-type the entire document line-by-line, checking your notes to make sure that you properly set a dial to a unique number and color combination for each line.
5. Voila! You're done in a snap.
Speaking to the point made upthread, about how detectives could tell which typewriter could have typed a certain memo based on the crud build-up in the keys, this was also true with the Selectrics. Back in the late 70's, early 80's, I remember many a time cleaning the balls of my typewriter (STOP snickering you guys!!!) You used a clay-type material that you would press into the letters on the ball, and work it around to clean the whole thing. The wad of cleaner would end up being this really gross grey color. This was before the newer single-use ribbons.
I also remember taking a razor blade to scrape the carbon off the copy for mistakes, in order to fix them on both the original and the copy. It never came cleanly off, always was a little bit messed up.
My typing teacher in high school (remember them??) used to make us roll a sheet of paper in, type a few words, take the paper completely out, and then put it back in and edit one word. It took some doing, let me tell you, but we became experts at fixing typos.
Sorry if this has already been discussed...I haven't read all of the responses.
To me the difference in the "y"s is more like the distortion you get when you photocopy a document and/or fax it and/or scan it.
Oh yes they have. And it can.
Little Green Footballs has duplicated the new 'memo' almost perfectly using microsoft Word.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1211150/posts
See also the duplicated version superimposed over the original versions on this thread. I hate conspiracy theories but this looks really fishy to me.
I haven't read through the whole thread yet, so maybe someone else has brought this up...
I remember as a kid the common practice of hyphenating a word when you came to the end of a line, and continuing the word on the following line, rather than leaving a big space at the end of the line, and starting the new word in full on the next line. I noticed the documents listed as other examples for comparison suggests Killian routinely hyphenated words. Is that practice anywhere to be found in the disputed documents, and if so, is it demonstrably inconsistent with Killian's normal practice?
I've changed my position on that.
This is exactly how Hillary will run her campaign.
It isn't working on Kerry, and it won't work for Hillary.
The smears are so 1990s.
There is no doubt in my mind that she would take on John Kerry in 2008 like Ted Kennedy took on Jimmy Carter back in 1980.
No, I think they do hope he wins. She has nothing to gain by inheriting a Repub lican Congress and a Conservative Supreme Court in 2008.
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