LIVE THREAD: DEMCON -- DAY 4

www.freerepublic.com | July 29, 2004

[Howlin]

Live Convention Video, 7 - 11 p.m. ET
• Sen. John F. Kerry
• Max Cleland
• Kerry's daughters, Alexandra and Vanessa Kerry
• former Green Beret Jim Rassman
• Madeleine Albright
• Sen. Joe Biden (Del.)
• Wesley Clark
• Rep. James Clyburn (S.C.)
• Sen. Joe Lieberman (Conn.)
• Rep. Ed Markey (Mass.)
• Rep. Juanita Millender-McDonald (Calif.)
• Rep. Eleanor Holmes Norton (D.C.)
• House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (Calif.)
• Rep. Louise Slaughter (N.Y.)
• John Sweeney, President of AFL-CIO
• Gov. Mark Warner (Va.)

[longtermmemmory]

What happened at FOX?

Did the producer die?

There are just giving free photo-op time to kerry!

[MJY1288]

I agree 100%, nothing about this speech impressed me. It was like watching Bill Clinton giving a lecture on Fidelity

[Kudsman]

I am amazed that the Frenchman would have the chutzpah to so boldly and disingenuously state that he would cut taxes on the middle class. Straight out of the President Clinton act of phoniness. He (Clinton) stated in January 92 "I want to make it very clear that this middle-class tax cut, in my view, is central to any attempt we're going to make to have a short term economic strategy." Jan92 ad; "I've offered a comprehensive plan to get our economy moving again. It starts with a tax cut for the middle class." Mar92 stated; "We need to provide a tax credit of up to $800 per child to ease the burden on working families." Oct92 debate; "We want to give modest middle-class tax relief to restore some fairness, especially to middle-class people with families with incomes of under $60K per year."

When you filed your taxes the following April after the election of 92, I ask you to recall how much tax relief you got. Give up? I'll tell you. Zero. As President, he did give folks big, fat tax increases though. Now remember President Clinton's denials when confronted on the illusory words used in his campaign. It was pure demagoguery then, and it's demagoguery now.

These are the same Democrats that just months ago were trying to vilify President Bush for actually cutting taxes, for the third straight year I might add. Making claims that the tax cuts were ruining the economy, exploding the deficit, the sky is falling, etc.etc.etc. Mr. Kerry is an elitist that believes all power, rights, economic opportunities, and beneficence flow from an all controlling Central Authority to its *citizens*. Otherwise known as the proletariat in the Marxist circles that rule the Democrat party. He will raise taxes on everyone that has net tax liability to further grow (invest in) big Government precisely because it redistributes income from the producers to the non producers to both weaken the middle-class and further governmental dependency. They have to lie, because if they told the truth, and accurately offered their voting record as indicative of future actions, they would be forever toast and probably hasten the extinction of their party.

Please. The man said he wants to expand the military, modernize/upgrade their equipment. Yet he votes to do the opposite as Senator. You could go on and on with the misrepresentations. I did note the curved hand, half a%%ed shaky salute though. So much for snap to! I guess.

[pulaskibush]

An evil omen, just like Carter's balloons.

The Bush administration will be blamed.

[nopardons]

Having seen decades more,please allow me to give you a wee insight.

During the first Stevenson run against Ike (and no,I was a bitty girl back then,but I have an excellent memory!)the adults I knew,thought that Adlai was " brilliant",a powerful and erudite speaker.No,I didn't hear him,but just stay with me.............

These were NOT Dems,they were GOPers,but were bowled over by Stevenson's speeches;not only his acceptance speech.After reading them,which they did and I have the book to prove it,they all,to a man/woman,shook their heads,rolled their eyes and said, almost in unison,: WHAT THE HECK WERE WE THINKING? THOSE SPEECHES ARE DREADFUL!

Think that today's politics are filthy? Their was a whispering campaign,during that election,that Mamie was a stinking DRUNK! It was alluded to in ALL Dem campaign lit.and Dems repeated it and repeated it and REPEATED IT!

While Kerry finally found some energy,this crowd would have whooped and hollered if he had read MARY HAD A LITTLE LAMB tonight.

The delivery was NOT good.The speech stole many lines from Bush and Cheney and for crying out loud LINCOLN!He even said that he was going to RAISE TAXES.That's a death knell!

The "RED MEAT" was trashing the president and then smarmily claiming that he, Kerry was taking the high road,thus setting the stage for tomorrow,when every single Dem will claim that anything and everything the GOP/RNC/President Bush put out,is incivil,a slur,dirty politics, NEGATIVE!

As an acceptance speech,Gore,Clinton,and yes,lots of other Dems have done far better.Kerry didn't stink,but he didn't set the house on fire either.

[txradioguy]

" How does the president view the livelihoods of americans who his policies have cost their jobs."

What specific policy would that be?

WHat ever happened to people taking responsibility for their own destiny?

Have we become such a victim society that everything HAS to be someone else's fault?

What happen to pulling yourself up by your bootstraps?

[Jim Robinson]

Is it over? I mean is this the fireworks show that never ends? Beats listening to Kerry.

[longtermmemmory]

Kerry will say he wants to spend money but then actuall vote against it or in the case of president VETO it and say we can't afford it.

He would have vetoed the 87 million and he would have vetoed all war on terror spending.

He would have launched a cruse missile.

[Big E]

That's a good point. If he's going to try to out-Bush Bush, people are going to vote for the real thing.

[Barlowmaker]

If I recall, you comandeered the State of the Union live thread with your insipid whining too.

Butch up buddy.

[gigi]

Hey, I like your name. My sister's name is Danette.

[Yaelle]

I didn't like the "religion on his sleeve" comment when Ron Reagan used it, nor when Kerry admitted borrowing it tonight.

It kind of rubs me the wrong way, anyway, since my dad was forced to wear his on his sleeve by Hitler.

Yet Kerry is apparently happy to turn to his religion when it's most convenient, like when he can receive an annulment for a 20-year marriage (with two kids) and leave his severely depressed wife in the dust (and clipped out of his memory, as we see in the film).

[nopardons]

I think you and my husband,who has been saying this for months now,are correct.And this is NOT wishful thinking. :-)

[longtermmemmory]

It must be a greta van sustren gushing thing. Fox better give equal greta with her mouth closed time to GWBush.

They could easily put on talking heads to disect the speech. It was so full of contradictions and faux patriotism. (have to use the french word)

[daviddennis]

I've watched parts of the convention every night, and every single speech has been like that. The only difference is that he's actually not bad at delivery compared to the lesser lights of the Democratic party.

The promises made during this convention have been so sweeping as to be absurd. I'm hoping the Republicans will be better. If my memory serves, George W Bush laid out a clear four-point plan and he delivered on most of it, changing his focus only when the War on Terror intervened.

I strongly suspect I could have written a better speech, but it probably wouldn't have passed the bureaucrats who were in charge of the convention. The speeches overall were so dull and drab because they didn't want to antagonize voters. The problem is that I don't see a lot there to attract voters, either.

I think the convention would have been better if it had been only a couple of hours a night, and the speakers had been only the top-drawer speakers. Maybe the delegates could have been herded into educational sessions or something during the rest of the days. As you can tell if you read the entire thread (with almost 5,000 messages now!) being there for the whole event has to be some kind of endurance contest.

D

[mylife]

How odd this celebration kerry is having is.

I swear they slipped "carmina burana" into the musical medley.. it was like a scene from the omen

[megasteve]

You missed the circle jerk over Kerry's speech on MSNBC. Scarborough and Buchanan included. Pat basically said he'd vote for Kerry based on his fantastic speech (if he didn't know about his voting record in the Senate). Even the stoic Brit Hume seemed a bit aflutter tonite. Once Rudy Guiliani gets up for the GOP all this will be forgotten.

[Big E]

Nothing is over! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell, no! And it ain't over now, 'cause I'm all wound up and want to vent. Thank you for providing this wonderful forum for ranting against the John Kerry's of the world.

[goldstategop]

Everything in this speech strikes on further reflection as being staged for effect. It seems as though Kerry was trying to grab votes from all parts of the spectrum. It had a diffused quality to it. I bet you no one can recall what Kerry's theme was. If there's something memorable about this man who wants to be President, it didn't stand out tonight.

[Congressman Billybob]

Because the Senate has already killed the Marriage Amendment, that is off the table. The arrow remaining in the quivver is the Bill that has aready passed the House to strip the federal courts of jurisdiction over "marriage" cases.

This effort CAN be understood. It says, simply, that FEDERAL courts cannot and will not mess with the definition of marriage in YOUR state. If YOUR courts still defend it, it will remain. So I think that in its present posture the issue will benefit Bush. (I thoroughly agree with you that it's danged near impossible to explain the constituional side of the issue to normal humans.)

John / Billybob