1 posted on
07/21/2004 8:26:24 AM PDT by
kattracks
To: kattracks
I don't want hints. Prosecute him NOW!
2 posted on
07/21/2004 8:30:00 AM PDT by
freeangel
(freeangel)
To: Grampa Dave; Howlin; Peach; weegee
Though Comey's comments were widely quoted, the U.S. press edited out his reference to a possible stint in the big house for Berger.No bias here, folks, nahhh....
3 posted on
07/21/2004 8:30:03 AM PDT by
MizSterious
(First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
To: kattracks
Prosecute pantload Berger and throw Kerry in jail for using stolen documents.
4 posted on
07/21/2004 8:36:11 AM PDT by
1Old Pro
To: kattracks
I called our local Clear Channel station the night after this story broke and spoke for about 10 minutes describing the procedures used to handle classified information. The following is a basic description of what I said ...
1) A person who wishes to review classified information at a given facility must have his/her clearance on file with the security office that has legal custody of the information.
2) Once they arrive to the facility, they must show their credentials to identify themselves, sign into the facility - maybe issued a badge indicating their clearance and access and escorted to the room where the material will be reviewed.
3) Once in the room, the container (probably a safe i.e. a very heavy duty file cabinet with heavy combination locks with different combinations on each drawer) is opened. This process should be logged by security personnel.
4) The documents are taken from the container. All classified documents are stamped (each page) with items such as a control number, date of creation, level of clearance (top and bottom), program name indicating what access is required and eventual dispensation (i.e. when the material is designated to destruction if applicable).
5) If the documents are classified "top secret", each document has a log on the cover sheet. EACH time a person has access to this information, they must sign and date it.
6) The material is not to be removed (ie stuffed in underwear, socks ... etc) without approval of security personnel. If this takes place, the transfer is documented on both ends of the transaction. If the material is top secret or above, it requires at least two cleared people as an escort.
7) If you travel overnight, the material is not to be kept in your hotel/motel room but instead must be taken to an approved facility. Arrangements are usually made in advance. Security people do not like suprise visits. They like to make them but not receive them.
8) No photocopies are to be made or notes copied without the proper security personnel logging this activity and making appropriate markings (mentioned above) on the documents.
9) This material is frequently audited by internal security agents and is subject to "suprise" audits conducted by military, FBI or other external security personnel.
10) People given access to this type of information are briefed and attend classes on how to handle this material - ie. no excuses for "honest mistakes".
11) As the NSA for the clinton administration, I imagine Berger was personally responsible that this protocol was designed, implemented and enforced by his staff - at least in an appropriately managed administration. This would apply to government employees, officials, military personnel and civilians under contract and extended clearances issued by the DoD, DoE or other intel operations.
12) As such, ANYBODY who has worked in this environment and heard Mr. Berger's comments yesterday about being "sloppy" and "an honest mistake" knows beyond any doubt that he was not only lying, but this was a premeditated act.
13) I left the aerospace business(as an engineer) in 1993 so these comments are based upon the security world of that time. Only Lord knows how the clinton adm changed things during his 8 years.
That summarizes what I mentioned to Steve Cannon of WTVN 610 AM (Columbus, Oh) last night.
The latest word I have heard from this morning is that this material was classified "Code Word Access". Folks, if true, this is "Above Top Secret" ie. John Pollard type material.
So the question comes to mind, why would anybody do such a thing under conditions where he knew he stood a huge chance of being caught? The mission must have been extraordinary for such a risk. The presumption is that he wanted to alter or remove and destroy material that implicated either himself, or quite possibly mr. clinton. The fact that some of the material is "lost" implies that regardless of the consequences, the mission has been accomplished with his current situation collateral damage.
Webb Hubbell's infamous quote "I guess I'll have to roll over again for Hillary" comes to mind. Another example of the clinton whirlwind leaving a trail of destruction in its wake.
5 posted on
07/21/2004 8:37:43 AM PDT by
tang-soo
(Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
To: kattracks
One wonders how a guy named "Sandy" will fare in prison.
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6 posted on
07/21/2004 8:38:15 AM PDT by
ICX
(This tagline was inadvertently removed from the National Archives.)
To: kattracks
The federal system is a very tough system. . . We take issues of classified information very, very seriously." Is Craig Livingstone Bill or Hillary Clinton in jail yet? Yeah, right.
7 posted on
07/21/2004 8:42:03 AM PDT by
drypowder
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
This is a great Soxgate thread and is marked as such.
We know the left wing traitors on ABCNNBC BS and in the print media will say that this was nothing but dirty sox and to move on.
Our embedden trolls will be out with the bs trying to minimize the serious reality of what happened. Now we have the perfect response.
Well, it wasn't
10 posted on
07/21/2004 8:53:18 AM PDT by
Grampa Dave
(Berger was an attorney w/o his secretary, and he just re-filed in the wrong drawers! Move On!)
To: All
15 posted on
07/21/2004 9:51:03 AM PDT by
rwfromkansas
(BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
To: kattracks
I would never advocate breaking the law but any Democrat who thinks that Berger's actions were just inadvertent/ accidental/oversights/mistakes might wish to test that peculiar theory by walking into the nearest retail store and loading up the old socks and pants with a few Twinkies, wristwatches or T-Bone steaks.
Be prepared to react when you hear the words "Freeze" or "Stop Thief." You might want to consult an attorney in advance.
16 posted on
07/21/2004 9:53:22 AM PDT by
catpuppy
(Kerry-Edwards! The vet and his pet.)
To: kattracks
The press is mum because the democrats haven't nailed down their party line yet. Which they will do as soon as they know all the evidence/details of the case.
19 posted on
07/21/2004 10:16:47 AM PDT by
skeeter
To: kattracks
Wow. Its getting bigger, and Bigger, and BIGGER!
He he he...say hello to Martha Stewart for us Sandy!
22 posted on
07/21/2004 10:41:04 AM PDT by
Badeye
("The day you stop learning, is the day you begin dying")
To: kattracks
We are winning ~ the bad guys are losing ~ trolls, terrorists, democ
rats and the mainstream media are sad ~ very sad!
~~ Bush/Cheney 2004 ~~
24 posted on
07/21/2004 10:58:59 AM PDT by
blackie
(Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
To: kattracks
I just heard O'Reilly spinning this as "insane stuff from the rigth", or something like that. I sent him a note with some facts in it...
25 posted on
07/21/2004 11:01:47 AM PDT by
OKSooner
To: kattracks
Rush said that this AG is the same one that went after Martha, and has said 'no deals' for Berger.
26 posted on
07/21/2004 11:01:53 AM PDT by
mathluv
(Protect my grandchildren's future. Vote for Bush/Cheney '04.)
To: kattracks
I'm not holding my breath waiting for the book to be thrown at Berger.
43 posted on
07/21/2004 6:35:18 PM PDT by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: kattracks
A Lexis Nexis search found that only Agence France Press quoted the Deputy AG in full, including this key observation on the Berger security breach: Things have reached a sorry state when a french news service will report the whole story and the US media will not.
To: kattracks
What can we do about this media? They are getting worse each day, not printing or talking about the crimes of the left, just bashing the administration, and going straight from the credits to the democrat talking points!!! I am so frustrated. Had Condi Rice done this it would be 24/7 coverage, but Berger is getting a pass, and the main story is who leaked this! It is maddening, and we have to do something!! But what?
57 posted on
07/21/2004 10:32:14 PM PDT by
ladyinred
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