Posted on 06/15/2004 7:09:34 AM PDT by KMC1
According to reports Iran's Mullahs are giving sanction to radical Islamists within their borders who held a conference last week to discuss the future war against the west. According to reports as many as 10,000 jihadists were recruited to become suicide bombers for terror acts to be carried out against Israel, The United States, and other key targets in Europe and across the globe. And according to the Jerusalem Post, Iran has greater capacity with nuclear weapons and that "Tehran is intimately associated with" the plans and operations of Hiz-bollah.
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Heh. And lot of empty chairs in many other clubs of note, I would surmise.
I understand only too well, little cowboy. We are losing freedom and safety in this country at an accelerating clip, but most folks are too distracted by the "war on terror" to notice.
Hildebeast said in a speech a couple of years ago that the feds (whom you feel as one with these days) are going to take away Americans' rights using the "salami method": one slice at a time. And so it is coming to pass.
If you think endless war, confiscatory taxation, omnipresent government (reading your mail, shutting down websites critical of the government, gassing peaceful protestors, on and on) are signs of a government that believes in freedom and safety, you must have dreams of being a FEMA worker someday.
"..we are all feds."
Oh, that's priceless.
Yes, it is. It means that I am under oath to defend the Constitution and the Republic for which it describes when the need arises.
NICE
Big bombs.
I think mine's an A4 model. Glad you're on our side, too, FRiend. Pretty soon, we're all gonna be put to the test.
My other carry piece is a Glock G32/.357 SIG, but the Kimber is so powerful and accurate, it's replaced the Glock.
"ok.... lets wait 5 years until they get the delivery system and the WMD's to do the job...
Who cares about the technicalities of today... the number of disciples of Allah needed to murder the "infidels" will not change...and when it happens ..if the Religion of Peace is allowed to continue unchecked... it will be a national devastation."
Please don't misunderstand. I've known since 1979 "this" was coming. I believe its much better to fight this war in the Middle East, rather than the Mid West. I understand its a war of annihilation.
What worries me is many people don't understand this....and one of the two major political parties (Democrats) are pretending it isn't so.
When will the John Kerry's of the world understand that these animals want to kill us all? They don't care about anything other than killing infidels....which means every single American not of the Muslim faith, initially.
If they acheived that, they wouldn't stop....they would then move on to killing Muslims that were not "Muslim enough" according to their bizzare interpretation of the Koran....something the Nation of Islam would do well to realize.
10,000 metric or 10,000 standard?
Middle Man, in case you weren't aware of it, we are in the process of full mobilization and the wagons are being circled. The WOT is not just overseas, but right here in the heartland. America was infiltrated by thousands of our enemy. Our Constitution and our form of government only works for men of good will, and there are people within and without who are trying to destroy it.
But it is worth preserving at any cost -- the same cost that we paid when our freedoms were established. Every now and then we have to take out the garbage, and we are all garbage men when we have to be.
It's good to want to protest against bad governors and officials or whatever and whoever you want to protest against. All I'm saying is that it might be difficult to protest if the streets are filled with bodies and flowing with blood -- and that's what we are trying to prevent.
If we fail, America will become just another encampment for the enemy who is satisfied with limited skirmishes and an occasional neighborhood bomb ala the middle east. Then what good will your liberties be if you have to practice them in a no-man's land? I don't think we're going to want to buy into tit for tat engagements and it will be necessary to hose down the country.
I'd say first things first. Lay down your posters for a while and start looking for a garbage scoop.
When that becomes necessary...Muslims will need protection from the citizens of this country...the smart ones should go home now.
Take a break from the paranoids for a moment and remember:
The Constitution is not a suicide pact. There is no virtue in protecting the civil rights of an enemy force who is trying to kill you. It's called self defense, and this country's survival is more important than the possible inconveniences to a few.
Every war has collateral damage, civilians and innocents suffer. That's life in a crappy world. Get used to it, because we are at war, and it's going to get worse before it gets better.
There's no use pretending it's still peacetime, with peacetime norms. The longer we do that, the greater the risk of catastrophic loss of life here at home.
Read the Constitution. The Congress has power to suspend Habeas Corpus in times of insurrection or invasion. That's why Hugo Black of the US Supreme Court reviewed and denied the appeal of the Japanese-Americans in WW II. He perceived, correctly, that there was a "clear and present danger" of insurrection and/or invasion. The internment of potential (and as it turned out, many actual) spies and saboteurs was justified by the greater good of protecting the Republic.
We were able to review and make reparations where called for, at our leisure after the war was won. Did it suck to be a loyal Japanese-American in those days? Yes. It also sucked to be in the Army and Marines in the South Pacific, eating dirt and dying on one godforsaken island after another. It also sucked not being able to buy butter and sugar for your kids at home, or having to work the night shift at a defense plant, all the while worrying whether your loved one was lying dead in some European mudhole.
It hasn't happened yet, but my guess is that before this is all over we all will be required to sacrifice, in various ways. If not by our weaselly politicians, then by the cruel master, Reality.
Says it all very well. BUMP!
Bravo
Why do you take a 60% deduction for women and children? The Palestinians use women and children as suicide bombers on a regular basis. Young children are particularly gullible and easy to recruit. The Pali "mommies" are happy to take a check for $25,000 to encourage junior to go off to Islamic glory. Makes you wonder what a 5 year old boy is going to do with 72 virgins.
I think it's time to take the offensive on all of Islam.
We have the first Ammendment and freedom of religion is the foundation of our country ....BUT... when a religion is based on exterminating us... it's time to ammend our Constitution and specify religion that is founded on terrorism and murder in the name of their tin horn god... is not welcome here!
Thanks, but I carry a copy of the constitution and bill of rights with me at all times. Gen. Franks said in the event of a nuclear attack on the U.S., the constitution would have to be replaced (not "suspended") by martial law. Rep. Henry Hyde, in an Oct. 3, 2003, speech, said:
"There are things in the Constitution that have been overtaken by events and by time. Declaration of war is one of them. There are things no longer relevant to a modern society. Why declare war if you don't have to? We are saying to the President, use your judgment...So, to demand that we declare war is to strengthen something to death. You have got a hammerlock on this situation; and it is not called for, inappropriate, anachronistic. It isn't done anymore."
I still remember in '95 when Mel Watt introduced a bill whose text was lifted from one of the first 10 amendments, and that bill was resoundingly defeated by a know-nothing rump Congress that has long since abdicated to a "fearless" dictator who calls the shots.
You seem to believe that when this undeclared, border-less, endless war is "over", that we will magically return to some sylvan republic that only exists in the history books no longer taught in public schools.
Our "leaders" are very definitely making preparations for an authoritarian form of government in America. A friend in a neighboring state says you can drive past any of 6 "internment" camps FEMA is building to house "displaced persons" in the event of a nuclear attack. One of these camps boasts a crematorium that will handle up to 3,000 bodies. (Obviously in this brave new future world there will be no room left for Christian burial or any other quaint customs of a bygone civilization. That would be "too anachronistic...inappropriate".)
Our government apparently has good enough intelligence to think that a nuclear attack on this continent is imminent. If the history of the federal government for the last 60 years is any gauge, the expansion of bureaucracy and federalizing of every facet of life will not be rolled back once this war is over, which I doubt we will see in our lifetimes.
And that was poor salesmanship, mentioning the internment of Japanese-Americans. Even in the heat of hostilities after Pearl Harbor, their treatment was loving compared to what went on at Abu Ghraib. But then, with leadership like Roosevelt and MacArthur, our military reflected strict adherence to the Geneva Convention in WWII. Today, with leaders like GWB, Wolfowitz and Rice, the new face of the American military is cheesy videos of Lynndie England with (insert name here).
No, they're short-sighted and self-serving fools, which is far more dangerous for the rest of us.
Wouldn't Iran be quite vulnerable to a blockade of her oil shipments? I'd imagine that Iran's economy would tank right quick, and the Mullahs might come to see things a little differently.
I will simply repeat my initial suggestion--take a break from the paranoids.
If your friend is right that FEMA is building camps for nuclear refugees, I would expect the democraps to have spread the news all over the media by now. After all, they just busted VP Cheney's secret bunker. But, it may be so, and it just might be a prudent example of worst case-planning.
IF there is a crematorium, what does it mean--"for 3000 bodies?" All at once? That's one helluvan oven all right. Bet the guys who built it are "sworn to secrecy" too, right?
You may have a "friend" who told you this but I don't believe it is true. Way too much like an urban legend.
BUT...if it is true that FEMA is preparing for a nuclear catastrophe, why by gosh, they just might need a big crematorium, to manage the huge number of fatalities that would result.
Why else do you think this would be going on, anyway? Inquiring minds want to know more...
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