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To: hinckley buzzard
"Read the Constitution."

Thanks, but I carry a copy of the constitution and bill of rights with me at all times. Gen. Franks said in the event of a nuclear attack on the U.S., the constitution would have to be replaced (not "suspended") by martial law. Rep. Henry Hyde, in an Oct. 3, 2003, speech, said:

"There are things in the Constitution that have been overtaken by events and by time. Declaration of war is one of them. There are things no longer relevant to a modern society. Why declare war if you don't have to? We are saying to the President, use your judgment...So, to demand that we declare war is to strengthen something to death. You have got a hammerlock on this situation; and it is not called for, inappropriate, anachronistic. It isn't done anymore."

I still remember in '95 when Mel Watt introduced a bill whose text was lifted from one of the first 10 amendments, and that bill was resoundingly defeated by a know-nothing rump Congress that has long since abdicated to a "fearless" dictator who calls the shots.

You seem to believe that when this undeclared, border-less, endless war is "over", that we will magically return to some sylvan republic that only exists in the history books no longer taught in public schools.

Our "leaders" are very definitely making preparations for an authoritarian form of government in America. A friend in a neighboring state says you can drive past any of 6 "internment" camps FEMA is building to house "displaced persons" in the event of a nuclear attack. One of these camps boasts a crematorium that will handle up to 3,000 bodies. (Obviously in this brave new future world there will be no room left for Christian burial or any other quaint customs of a bygone civilization. That would be "too anachronistic...inappropriate".)

Our government apparently has good enough intelligence to think that a nuclear attack on this continent is imminent. If the history of the federal government for the last 60 years is any gauge, the expansion of bureaucracy and federalizing of every facet of life will not be rolled back once this war is over, which I doubt we will see in our lifetimes.

And that was poor salesmanship, mentioning the internment of Japanese-Americans. Even in the heat of hostilities after Pearl Harbor, their treatment was loving compared to what went on at Abu Ghraib. But then, with leadership like Roosevelt and MacArthur, our military reflected strict adherence to the Geneva Convention in WWII. Today, with leaders like GWB, Wolfowitz and Rice, the new face of the American military is cheesy videos of Lynndie England with (insert name here).

96 posted on 06/16/2004 1:52:31 PM PDT by Middle Man
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To: Middle Man

I will simply repeat my initial suggestion--take a break from the paranoids.

If your friend is right that FEMA is building camps for nuclear refugees, I would expect the democraps to have spread the news all over the media by now. After all, they just busted VP Cheney's secret bunker. But, it may be so, and it just might be a prudent example of worst case-planning.

IF there is a crematorium, what does it mean--"for 3000 bodies?" All at once? That's one helluvan oven all right. Bet the guys who built it are "sworn to secrecy" too, right?

You may have a "friend" who told you this but I don't believe it is true. Way too much like an urban legend.

BUT...if it is true that FEMA is preparing for a nuclear catastrophe, why by gosh, they just might need a big crematorium, to manage the huge number of fatalities that would result.

Why else do you think this would be going on, anyway? Inquiring minds want to know more...


100 posted on 06/16/2004 6:05:07 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Middle Man


"You seem to believe that when this undeclared, border-less, endless war is "over", that we will magically return to some sylvan republic that only exists in the history books no longer taught in public schools."

Well, I don't recall harking back to any sylvan republics, although we really did have one once.

I'll tell you when you will know this "undeclared, borderless, endless war is over," though. A while back the media clowns were fond of asking "How will we know when (if) we have won?" I was shocked but not surprised at the ahistorical quality to the question.

The answer is, When I can drive up to the airport, check in at the counter, walk with my carry-on to the departure gate with my family, and not have to go through a security checkpoint or a metal detector or answer any stupid questions by federal schmucks.

It really used to be that way, and not so long ago--I flew like that, as did many others here I'm sure. And although I may never see it again, that's the way to know the war has been won.


101 posted on 06/16/2004 6:16:02 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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