Immigration Reform Considered After Ridge Hints at Amnesty

Fox ^ | 12-26-04 | Peter Brownfeld

[JustPiper]

WASHINGTON

[winker]

To completely close the loop on Illegal Immigration we must continue the process of shutting down the demand for them! This means more forced CONSERVATIVE LEGISLATION to Prosecute Business all over America who are just as if not more Guilty than the ILLEGALS. Because they who hire and disperse the problem they will have to be "ENCOURAGED" in a beneficial way to stop it (PRISON TIME ?)! Cutting off the head of the Snake also includes destroying the rest of the body of evidence and who prospers from all this Illegal Immigration. Take away the profit and you take away the problem! Otherwise as I have stated numerous times you have to address the (PROBLEM) and not the (Symptom)! Nothing will change until this is done!

[Syncro]

Wouldn't it be nice to have the professional baby makers on welfare start doing something for their keep, ie mowing laws, picking pickles and other assorted veggies.

Not just pickles, they could pick prunes and raisins too...

All kidding aside these people have not been taught the work ethic nor how to work.

Their attitude has been skewed because in lots of cases when kids grow up these days they resist authority and responsibility, and their parents encourage it by not being the "adults" they should be.

My sons went to work with me when they were 10 or so and learned to work. By the time they were fully developed in their teens, each of them could paint a whole apartment by themselves in 4 or 5 hours.

They learned to work

BTW they NEVER had a TV or phone in their rooms.

[Teenagers won't work these days because it is too hard (or read too busy) for parents to teach them self-dicipline. They yell at their parents and say "Shut up, I'm busy playing (insert name of x-box or play-station game here")]

They both have good jobs now, and one owns a business.

In fact a month ago or so we needed two new employees so we ran a simple ad in the local paper.
We got over forty calls!

From people from 20 yrs old to about 45 or so.

We offered the same wage paid to illegal criminal invaders that stand on many corners in this county every morning waiting for people to pick them up and have them work and make some tax-free money to be part of the Billions of dollars send south of the border every year.

There are many Americans here who will do the work and are looking for jobs.It is a scam to say citizens won't do the work for the wages criminal invaders will do it for.

We had one Mexican who was a citizen working for us and he was one of our best workers.

I did the same thing with him that I did with the other workers, took a picture of his SS card but in his case his Green Card too.

AlBondigas : We need to outlaw anchor babies

[txdoda]

1. We can't simply round up & deport all the 12-20 mil illegals.>>>>>>>

Many would deport themselves *if* we.....

REMOVE ALL the *perks* our illegals presently enjoy.

Start enforcing & heavily FINING the employers who work the illegals.

Use the fines to increase security @ our borders. Identify any crossers, & their *fine* could be NEVER any legal readmission to the USA.

[AlBondigas]

AlBondigas : We need to outlaw anchor babies

Lets just change their entitlements: Move to the head of citizenship application line:
After your 18th birthday
From your non-US location

[txdoda]

I think it is some kind of globalist plan ---- we're to become some "American Union" which includes all of North America, Central and South America. The USA set up by the founding fathers is to be disintegrated>>>>>>

So far as I've heard, Bush seems only to be having these *immigration chats* with the Fox & Mexico.

[Klickitat]

If someone else hasn't already posted this, here's the White House comment line and the Capitol building number: WHITE HOUSE TEL. COMMENT LINE# (202) 456-1111 or 456-1414. When you call, there will be a recording asking you if you want to leave a message for Pres.Bush, but continue to hold and a live operator will come on the line to speak to.

TOLL FREE TEL.# to the CAPITOL SWITCHBOARD OPERATOR TEL# 1-877-762-8762 and ask the operator for your two U.S. Senators and the to be connected to your U.S. Representative. (In case the other line is busy)

BUMP TO YOUR INFORMATION ABOVE.

[winker]

You are totally right on "UNLESS WE THE PEOPLE" are willing to do something totally unexpected by rising up and calling for the REDRESS AND Impeachment of those who violate the EXPRESSED WILL OF THE PEOPLE! If you believe the American System does not still work then people like you will suffer right along with the rest of us by not letting your voice be heard; Does this get your blood to boilling? "NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION" It should because you are not being represented like you should!

[yoe]

BUMP!

Thanks for the address - Please keep the Immigration article on the Front Page of Free Republic with the link to Homeland Security so all Freepers can comment.

(send your comments to Ridge)

[AlBondigas]

Agree 100 %
Their self-exodus should be heartily encouraged...but it'll take Congressional guts to enact those incentives.

[txdoda]

The part I don't get is all the benefits are one-way --- Americans are gaining no rights at all on Mexican soil, but their citizens are gaining all rights on ours plus keeping their own.>>>>>>>>

Good Question......we always hear we need the workers, but MANY pay no federal taxes, many are in jail, and many stand on street corners DAILY 'looking for work'.

So just where are the benefits that the USA will gain from giving Fox his 'whole' enchalada' ??

What 'rights' in mexico will any *OTM* Americans gain ??

[Mulder]

This is what it seems to be about --- and ending of the USA and the Constitution and a creation of something else

A new nation requires a new Constitution, and this one won't have a Bill of Rights.

And those few privlidges that are enumerated will be appened with a phrase like ".....unless otherwise proscribed by law...." sort of like many of the European constitutions.

[Mulder]

That's exactly what the FTAA is all about. Free Trade of the Americas is the biggest scam ever perpetrated on the US Citizenry.

Yeah, and it's being pushed by so-called Republicans.

Our borders are wide open, but if you want to take a plane flight, you have to submit to a strip search upon demand. Hell, citizens are the suspects boys.

And that's exactly what opened my eyes right after 9/11.

[Zipporah]

YES on outlawing anchor babies.. found something interesting to dispell the argument about illegals needed in the workforce No Need for Illegal Workers

[Zipporah]

In addition, read this very interesting quote:

In 1995, Mexican pundit Jorge Castañeda published an article in the Atlantic Monthly entitled “Ferocious Differences.” This piece was quite frank in spelling out the fact that the white Mexican elite utilizes emigration as a safety valve. Castañeda described the perception of the average American’s powerlessness against mass immigration when he wrote “Some Americans … dislike immigration, but there is little they can do about iit"

[txdoda]

The family reunification component of this has not been discussed at all in the media, because they don't understand the implications.

With, say, 10 million being amnestied (it would take 10-15 years), we could expect to see on average another 3 "immigrants" brought in under "family reunification" auspices.

Just what Fox & Mexico's rich desire, to dump 40 million more poor mexicans into the USA for us to be TAXED for.

[DumpsterDiver]

If you believe the American System does not still work then people like you will suffer right along with the rest of us by not letting your voice be heard;

I've been calling and writing for about 10 years now so I have doubts about my voice being heard. I haven't completely given up, though.

Does this get your blood to boilling?

I've lived in Los Angeles since 1956. My blood reached the boiling point years ago. Trust me, I'm not new to this illegal alien travesty.

[DumpsterDiver]

If you believe the American System does not still work then people like you will suffer right along with the rest of us by not letting your voice be heard;

I've been calling and writing for about 10 years now so I have doubts about my voice being heard. I haven't completely given up, though.

Does this get your blood to boilling?

I've lived in Los Angeles since 1956. My blood reached the boiling point years ago. Trust me, I'm not new to this illegal alien travesty.

[riri]

This is what it seems to be about --- and ending of the USA and the Constitution and a creation of something else

For the life of me, I try to figure out what is happening. What you state is the only answer that makes sense.

I just can't figure out how they seem to be pulling it off without much opposition, barely a bump in the road. 535 members of congress and barely a handful make any noise.

I am really beginning to wonder if it is about time where people somewhere off in the future will look back and say, "Why didn't they leave? Why did they stay? Couldn't they see what was happening?"

[Klickitat]

Mulder:"They want to end America as a nation, and merge us with Mexico and Canada; and eventually the rest of the world."

Fitz: "This is what it seems to be about --- and ending of the USA and the Constitution and a creation of something else. It isn't about votes --- that makes no sense at all because it isn't Republicans moving in. We're not considering sending the Mexican government all that money from Social Security for votes."

Yes isn't that what the "new world order" is all about? I saw an article that I believe was posted by Willie Green about the continuing effort to merge the western hemisphere into one economy which went into some detail about the effort which has been going on for many years. I did a search but couldn't find it. They already have started down that road with nafta. Remember how nafta was supposed to be some great thing for us? As you have pointed out before Fitz, nafta is one of the motivations for this huge illegal influx. Imagine how many more will come from south america once we have a hemispheric version of nafta in place.

[TheDon]

It won't. That's why we need to rework our immigration laws to reflect what we are willing to enforce.