Regarding Freeper Obit. TrappedInLiberalHell and Depression

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[joesbucks]

The problems of depression and despair.

[ClancyJ]

I'm going to include that in my Christmas letter this year.

Hm...maybe your Christmas letters are the reason many now have a trash can located near the door. LOL

[ClancyJ]

Interesting. Every person is different. Some have lung problems, some have a tendency to indigestion, some get cancer, some have depression - on and on.

So, a solution for one person may or may not be a solution for the next person. Guess we all have to diagnose ourselves, find what works and keep looking until we do.

[Alas Babylon!]

Agreed. As I said, Does doubt and worry cause these imbalances, or do they result from them? However, we once believed wrong things about disease until we found the microbe was the cause. Then there is vitamin defficiency, trauma from physical wounds that appear in other areas, and much more. I agree with the balancing, however. Still, the world today will (hopefully) soon be gone. The Kingdom to come will not have disease in any form.

Until such Glorious Times, we need to understand that a broken mind may be very much like a broken bone, and needs medical help, not Spiritual. The Spiritual let's us deal with the pain and transcend it, not cure it.

[Siouxz]

We may not have control over events that come into our lives, we have complete control over how we react to them and how we allow, or do not allow them to effect us.

MAP, I think we're talking apples and oranges here. What you're describing is situational depression, and everyone goes through it to some extent at one time or another in their lives. Clinical depression is something else entirely. It is a medical condition.
Consider it like diabetes. You find your blood sugars are creeping up, and you decide to change your diet, lose weight, and exercise regularly. Your blood sugars are back to normal. YOU have confronted the problem in your life and taken steps to solve that problem. Some people have a type of diabetes that destroys the cells in the pancreas that produce insulin. No amount of diet or exercise will help. They HAVE to take medication. Same thing with clinical depression. It's not the problems in your life that are "getting you down," it's the chemicals in your brain.

When someone is clinically depressed, it doesn't matter if there are problems in your life or if everything's going great. You will still be depressed.

[baseballmom]

'My eye is wasted away from grief, my soul and my body also. For my life is spent with sorrow, and my years with sighing. My strength has failed because of my iniquity, and my body has wasted away. Because of all my adversaries, I have become a reproach, especially to my neighbors, and an object of dread to my acquaintances. Those who see me in the street flee from me. I am forgotten as a dead man, out of mind. I am like a broken vessel.'

Thanks. I'm going to include that in my Christmas letter this year.

ROFLOL. Thanks. Laughter really is the best medicine.

[Physicist]

Well look at all the pro-drug threads here. I'm not surprised at all. The internet crowd seems to be almost entirely drug addicted.

I'm pro-legalization, and yet I've never taken any illegal drug, not so much as one puff of marijuana smoke in my life. I've been trying to drink more alcohol for health reasons, but it's hard because I'm not naturally drawn to it. I manage about two drinks a week, and I like beer. My only addiction is book collecting.

When I see someone who's rabidly anti-drug, I strongly suspect that that person is a recovering addict who doesn't trust himself where drugs are available.

[sinkspur]

Clinical depression is not about "feeling low," and it certainly has nothing to do with one's attitude toward God.

Depression involves a chemical imbalance that is easily remedied with medication.

The real evil of depression is being ashamed of admitting that you may be depressed, or in recognizing that something may be wrong.

[ClancyJ]

Right.

Yet, it could be that the gene pools have evolved bringing forth modern day illnesses or weaknesses that were not prevelant in earlier times. Or, it could be that the lifestyle of those times solved some of the problems we have today in a different lifestyle.

Like colesterol. Our lifestyle allows cholesterol to progress to a serious problem but the farmers led a life of hard labor that allowed the grease filled diet to be controlled due to the exercise.

I feel sure diseases and genetic weaknesses evolve same as the species evolve.

[Monty22]

"When I see someone who's rabidly anti-drug, I strongly suspect that that person is a recovering addict who doesn't trust himself where drugs are available."

There's that part I guess out there, first-hand experience with the destruction. I've only seen it second-hand, lost friends and so on. But thankfully I was able to learn by their mistakes, and not my own.

[GrandMoM]

Many of us believe our Creator is like any loving father willing and able to help his children any way he can with life's difficulties, and he is. Yet, once we pray and give him our problems we continue to worry, "why would he help, when or how will he help. There is a saying I learned years ago, from the bible I guess, but I don't know where it is "LET GO AND LET GOD", but most of us have a hard time doing that, we keep taking it back. In otherwords, we don't have "FAITH"!

....FAITH is giving our father our problems and believing in our heart he will handle them and THANKING HIM while we WAIT FOR HIM TO HANDLE THEM.

....Oh, and no instructions are required, he knows best HOW to handle our problems!!!!!!!

[carlo3b]

Consider this my FR Opus. This place is insane.

Don't do anything rash, unless you think it's in your best interest..

[Ladysmith]

I have a friend like that. Now that I have my physical strength back, the only reason I don't knock out his teeth is due to great self-control.

[Salvation]

For those who suffer from depression due to a divorce, separation or death in your family, please click on my name and access the hotlink: Beginning Experience.

Attend one of these healing weekends in your area to help you move through these eras of your lives.

Or FReepmail me.

[carlo3b]

btw, I do enjoy your recipe threads.

You don't love my recipe threads?.. snif.. thats depressing.. :(. ... :)

[Salvation]

**Does depression necessarily come from doubt, though. Many men who are depressed are actually certain: Certain things will not improve, certain no one loves them, etc.**

True, Check out the peer ministry on my profile page.

[ican'tbelieveit]

But we also have to accept that sometimes God doesn't "heal" as we want to be healed. And we also have to recognize that God has given man knowledge about how to treat problems. It is a balancing act to recognize that God may not answer the way we want, and to accept that answer without being angry with Him.

[ClancyJ]

Yes - but sometimes the answer is "no" or no-answer. There was a situation in my life where prayer for year after year did not result in the help I prayed for.

You would think this resulted in a lack of faith when the outcome was reached - but, it did not.

Sometimes, when we go through tough times, God still blesses, comforts and walks with us - even if He did not change the outcome.

Hard to accept but we sometimes just have to go on day by day. True, we could lose faith, we could hate God but what does that do?

Just sometimes the help we want is not forthcoming but God still loves us, comforts us, and walks with us. Wish it had been different but to hold grudges, to lose faith just seems to make it all worse. Better to move forward and leave the understanding by the wayside.

[ican'tbelieveit]

I have to have my sun. And I know people who crave cloudy weather. But when it gets snowy here for a couple of days, I feel almost claustrophobic, like the world is closing in. Once the sun comes out, woohoo.

[Erasmus]

And let's go write our names in the snow.

OK, but the handwriting had damn well better match the name.

[RaceBannon]

I have 2 of Hannah Whittal Smith's books. Great stuff.