Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread) October 29, 2003

To: Theodore R.; tutstar; sweetliberty; TaxRelief

this info on locked doors is in affidavit that was at http://www.terrisfight.org -- I can't find it there now, was it taken off or moved? I know it's here on FR as well -- I just wanted to "marry" the info w/the source.

It's the same affidavit that made claims of possible insulin injections on at least two occasions by ms.

461 posted on 10/30/2003 10:37:05 AM PST by cyn (http://www.terrisfight.org)

NP, M23 - I actually found it interesting, and VERY telling!

IMHO it proves he's a nutcake!

462 posted on 10/30/2003 10:44:45 AM PST by Budge ( <>< .)

Can you find anything on the settlements with the other parties from the malpractice suit of Dr. Igel?

463 posted on 10/30/2003 11:06:44 AM PST by TaxRelief (Ask me about the connection between Socialism, Communism, Drug Warlords and Vodka.)

I wish-with all of my heart-that I had the $60 dollars, I would send the money to you because your research is terrific. You didn't ask for it...I just wish I had it to give to you. I so want to know if MS is paying child support. It is an important character issue if indeed he does have a third child...one that NO ONE is talking about. (But us...because we get down and dirty and work thru the scum to shed light on it and bring it to the surface, where it belongs!)

464 posted on 10/30/2003 11:08:04 AM PST by Republic

St. Petersburg Times. St. Petersburg, Fla.: Feb 17, 1991. pg. 3
Abstract (Article Summary)
http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/sptimes/

(excerpted)

This city has proclaimed today Terri Schiavo day.

Last year Mrs. Schiavo, 27, suffered a loss of potassium in her body that caused her heart to stop beating and resulted in a
coma. She underwent surgery, performed by Dr. Yoshio Hosobuchi of the University of California at San Francisco in December, to implant a stimulator in her brain.

The brain stimulator implant was a success, said her husband, Mike. Mrs. Schiavo is slowly emerging from the coma at the Mediplex Medical Center, a neurological care center in Bradenton, he said. She will undergo at least a year of speech, occupational and physical therapy.

A Feb. 9 Valentine's dance, sponsored by the Vina Del Mar Island Association, raised $1,575 for the Theresa Schiavo Trust Fund.

To contribute to Terri's trust fund, send a check payable to the Theresa Schiavo Trust Fund to First Union National Bank, 5250 East Bay Drive, Clearwater 34624.

465 posted on 10/30/2003 11:14:13 AM PST by TaxRelief (Ask me about the connection between Socialism, Communism, Drug Warlords and Vodka.)

To: Budge; pickyourpoison

The info about the 14-year-old illegitimate child by MS came from this post.

It is from a letter written by a friend of Terri's to the St. Petersburg Times, that they refused to run. So far there has been no confirmation on this. I don't know if it is possible to verify that someone is paying child support. Perhaps someone else knows.

466 posted on 10/30/2003 11:14:21 AM PST by iowamomforfreedom (Why is it illegal to starve an animal but not a human being?)

St. Petersburg Times. St. Petersburg, Fla.: Feb 17, 1991.
pg. 3
Abstract (Article Summary)
SPTimes archive search

(excerpted)

This city has proclaimed today Terri Schiavo day.

Last year Mrs. Schiavo, 27, suffered a loss of potassium in her body that caused her heart to stop beating and resulted in a coma. She underwent surgery, performed by Dr. Yoshio Hosobuchi of the University of California at San Francisco in December, to implant a stimulator in her brain.

The brain stimulator implant was a success, said her husband, Mike. Mrs. Schiavo is slowly emerging from the coma at the Mediplex Medical Center, a neurological care center in Bradenton, he said. She will undergo at least a year of speech, occupational and physical therapy.

A Feb. 9 Valentine's dance, sponsored by the Vina Del Mar Island Association, raised $1,575 for the Theresa Schiavo Trust Fund.

To contribute to Terri's trust fund, send a check payable to the Theresa Schiavo Trust Fund to First Union National Bank, 5250 East Bay Drive, Clearwater 34624.

467 posted on 10/30/2003 11:17:05 AM PST by TaxRelief (Ask me about the connection between Socialism, Communism, Drug Warlords and Vodka.)

You are quoting one (and only one) original news source that says BOYER had GAL Pearse removed. That source was Chicago Tribune. Most other sources say Greer had Pearse removed.

Could it be that someone at the Chicago Tribune is going back to verify the information? Maybe court records indicate something different. Just a thought on why two accounts could differ.

468 posted on 10/30/2003 11:47:10 AM PST by Ohioan from Florida

From this article:

Felos does not mention Schiavo in Law as Spiritual Practice, but says he wants to start a second book when the case is over. He may talk about his spiritual journey with Schiavo then.

This is the only article I've seen on it. Not sure if there are others.

This is quite a revealing article about Felos, by the way.

469 posted on 10/30/2003 11:49:04 AM PST by iowamomforfreedom (Why is it illegal to starve an animal but not a human being?)

Nothing found on malpractice suit(s) other than this article:

by LAURA GRIFFIN.
St. Petersburg Times. St. Petersburg, Fla.: Nov 12, 1992. pg. 3.B

see article at
http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/sptimes/

(excerpt)

Tuesday night, a jury awarded Mrs. Schiavo and her husband, Michael, more than $2-million in a lawsuit they brought against the gynecologist who never asked about her medical or nutritional history while treating her.

During the trial, attorneys for the Schiavos showed a film of a day in Mrs. Schiavo's life at Sabal Palms Nursing Home in Largo. Although she's in a vegetative state, said St. Petersburg lawyer Glenn Woodworth, "you can tell she has some sense of her predicament."

"It's a tragic case," Woodworth said. "She was on the threshold of her life. They were ready to start a family . . . (On the film) she knows her husband and looks into his eyes."

As a child, Mrs. Schiavo was heavy. As a teenager, she weighed about 200 pounds. But she weighed only 120 pounds at age 25. She kept her weight off through a dangerous eating disorder, bulimia, which involves vomiting after eating.

The couple had been married about six years when Mrs. Schiavo began thinking she was pregnant because she kept missing her menstrual periods.

Her family doctor referred her to Dr. Stephen Igel, an obstetrician-gynecologist in Clearwater. But she wasn't pregnant, Woodworth said. She was missing her periods because of poor nutrition.

Woodworth and Miami lawyer Gary Fox maintained that Igel saw Mrs. Schiavo four times over a year and never asked about her nutrition and never noticed the loose skin and stretch marks resulting from her substantial weight loss.

"There were no questions about weight loss, eating habits or anything," Fox said. "She had significant stretch marks on her thighs. This was something a prudent gynecologist would not miss."

Igel treated only the symptoms, he said, not the cause.

On Feb. 24, 1990, after a year of treatment, Michael Schiavo heard a thud in the bathroom. When he went to see what happened, he found his wife crumpled on the floor. She had suffered a heart attack, Fox said.

"I think there are a lot of gynecologists out there who are treating women with Teri's symptoms in an ordinary way," Fox said. "But it's not an ordinary problem."

Igel's attorney, Kenneth Deacon, could not be reached for comment Wednesday.

Fox said Igel's attorney contended that Mrs. Schiavo should have disclosed her problem and that even if he had suspected and asked, she probably would have kept it from him because bulimics are often secretive.

The jury agreed partly with the defense. They originally awarded the Schiavos more than $6-million but found that she was 70 percent at fault. So they subtracted her liability from the award, bringing it down to $2-million, her attorneys said.

The verdict could have been higher, Woodworth said, if the jury hadn't found that because of the bulimia, Mrs. Schiavo had a life expectancy of only 17 more years.

Woodworth said he and Fox questioned the jury's decision to decrease the award and will discuss with Circuit Judge Phillip Federico whether it is legal.

The couple also sued Mrs. Schiavo's family doctor, Joel Prawer, but Prawer settled earlier this year for an undisclosed amount, Woodworth said.

Michael Schiavo has stayed with his wife and takes care of her, Fox said. He is in nursing school so that he can care for her on his own, Fox said.

"This is the kind of guy whose wedding vows are just that - vows," Fox said. "Ironically, Tuesday (the day of the verdict) was their eighth wedding anniversary."

To Fox, the case represents a larger problem: a dangerous societal pressure placed on women to be thin.

"I think it's important that women who have these eating disorders know the downside. I don't think they know how dangerous it is," he said.

470 posted on 10/30/2003 12:46:38 PM PST by mommy23

has declined to speak with reporters about it

Wonder why?

471 posted on 10/30/2003 12:49:38 PM PST by JustPiper (RIP Freeper Lynne - God loves you! You are our angel now!)

Why does Dr. Igel decline speaking to the press? Good question. Why did he have such lousy representation that he lost a case that was this flimsy? Another good question.

Jodi Centonze is involved in an insurance business that is registered to Michael's address? Maybe there's a connection there.

472 posted on 10/30/2003 4:26:41 PM PST by TaxRelief (Ask me about the connection between Socialism, Communism, Drug Warlords and Vodka.)

Over Here!

Link to Thread 2

473 posted on 10/30/2003 4:53:23 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")

To: EternalVigilance

Terri did not have a heart attack,

I knew that. The original article I read said "mysterious collapse" -- now why would they say that if it was something as common as a heart attack?

474 posted on 10/30/2003 6:38:31 PM PST by Terriergal (Psalm 11: 3 "When the foundations are being destroyed, what can the righteous do?")

But there seem to be a much greater number of sources that say it was Greer that fired Pearse on or about Jan 26, 2000.

I agree. I was surprised to see Boyer named.

BTW, I hope the IRS has been keeping an eye on the specifics of Mike's handling of Terri's money.

Even if everything is on the "up and up," I'd bet he has been required to provide details to Uncle Sam.

475 posted on 10/30/2003 6:52:13 PM PST by syriacus (Casual comments about tubes, made after watching a 3 handkerchief movie, do not justify euthanasia.)

I'm sorry, did I say that?

Puzzled by your last post to me...

476 posted on 10/30/2003 7:00:42 PM PST by EternalVigilance

Thanks for your post 393. Hard work. Don't have much time, so I appreciate the update.

477 posted on 10/30/2003 9:08:53 PM PST by attagirl

To: EternalVigilance

This is quite a thread! I have been mostly out of town lately, so I will be catching up on the weekend....keep up the fight, everyone. Still praying....

478 posted on 10/30/2003 11:55:05 PM PST by sfRummygirl (SAVE TERRI SHINDLER SCHIAVO...www.terrisfight.org)

Thank you for the pings, keep me on your list....

479 posted on 10/30/2003 11:56:50 PM PST by sfRummygirl (SAVE TERRI SHINDLER SCHIAVO...www.terrisfight.org)

Professor Appointed to Probe Schiavo Case

Saturday November 1, 2003 1:01 AM

By VICKIE CHACHERE
Associated Press Writer

TAMPA, Fla. (AP) - A judge appointed a University of South Florida professor on Friday to independently investigate the case of a severely brain-damaged woman at the center of a right-to-die battle.

Jay Wolfson, an expert on health care financing, will report to Gov. Jeb Bush and recommend whether the stay the governor enacted to keep Terri Schiavo alive should be allowed to remain.

Schiavo suffered severe brain damage when her heart stopped due to a chemical imbalance and has been in a persistent vegetative state for more than a decade. Doctors have said there is no hope for her recovery.

Her husband, Michael Schiavo, has fought to have her feeding tube removed, saying his wife did not want to be kept alive artificially.

Terri Schiavo's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, dispute that claim and have fought to keep their daughter alive, saying they believe she could be rehabilitated.

Terri Schiavo's feeding tube was removed for six days in October before the Florida Legislature and Gov. Jeb Bush enacted a special law to have it reinserted. The law also required a guardian to be appointed.

George Felos, the attorney for Michael Schiavo, and the American Civil Liberties Union filed briefs this week challenging the constitutionality of the governor's action. The state is expected to respond on Monday.

The judge said that if the law is found to be unconstitutional, Wolfson is to cease his work.

The Schindlers had objected to Wolfson's appointment, claiming comments he made to a television station indicated he was biased against the newly enacted law. The judge said he found no evidence of bias.

Wolfson did not return calls seeking comment.

The judge ordered Wolfson to report to the governor in 30 days, but said the deadline could be extended if needed.

It should not be forgotten that Terri already HAD a very pro-therapy Guardian Ad Litem, who was ignored and then dismissed!

Richard Pearse knows a lot and sided with Terri's family then Felos and Greer quashed the information illegally.

Pearse needs to be interviewed by Greta, Sean or Geraldo! He could really raise some red flags on this deal. Mr. and Mrs Schindler: you should ask him to join you if you are allowed equal time on LKL...

Richard L. Pearse Jr, Attorney at Law
Florida Bar No. 282723
Previous Guardian Ad Litem for Terri Schiavo

Part I
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Will PM you all my information on Richard Pearse Jr, the attorney that was appointed to be Guardian ad litem for Terri several years ago. Attorney Pearse, (he offices in Clearwater) who was recommended to the Court's by George Felos, wrote a 10 page brief for the Court after his independent evaluation and effectively sided with Terri's Family against Michael.

Felos then got Legally Blind Judge Greer to ignore the entire report and presentation by licensed Attorney Pearse! in the 2000 trial(1)

Attorney Pearse got pissed and told Greer either to let him do his job or be excused as Guardian ad litem. Greer excused Pearse on George Felos advice, and a new Guardian ad litem was NEVER reappointed for Terri, again at Felos recommendation to the Court.

Terri has gone for years without a Guardian ad litem to protect her interest against Michael and Felos and Legally Blind Judge Greer has allowed it! Attorney Pearse has to protect his license to practice law before the Florida Board and Attorney Pearse has to follow the law. That is why he asked to be excused from the case when Judge Greer was effectively letting George Felos act as Judge in this case, in my humble opinion! The whole thing is just one more giant sham in Judge Greer's court room and in this case, in my humble opinion.
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(1) It is reported, Judge Greer cannot legally drive a car because of his lack of eye sight for Goss sakes. How does the Judge read all these very detailed court offered documents, by expert witnesses, in order to render proper Judicial process and decisions. - NO, in order to make a Judicial decision to effectively execute a severly disabled person by starvation, in my humble opinion. Part II (This is from a colleague) I am on a short schedule today, but here is some of the information I pieced together, from a substantial amount received from another forum member for review, regarding Richard Pearse, Attorney at Law who was Guardian Ad Litem (GAL) for Terri Schiavo at one time. Late tonight I will address all this information in full – Ed
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In Short - WHAT IS GOING ON HERE ?!:

Everyone is talking about a new appointed GAL, when the previous GAL's findings were totally ignored. What is this, a "fish until you win" venture on the part of George Felos and his client Michael Schiavo!?

GAL Richard L Pearse, Jr., Attorney at Law was suddenly dismissed after filing his report in which he stated that it was his opinion that:

(1). Michael Schiavo was not a suitable guardian due to his standing to gain financially and

(2). The possibility of rehabilitation for Terri was too great to advocate any kind of Exit Protocol.

George Felos is the one who asked for a GAL in the first place! Felos doesn't like what he hears so he gets Judge Greer, who is legally blind per news reports, to totally quash this experts testimony. THIS IS CRAZY!

ATTORNEY PEARSE NEEDS TO BE CONTACTED IMMEDIATELY – HE IS EASY TO CONTACT PER BELOW:

October 24, 2003 – News Article

An independent guardian has not served in the Schiavo case since 1999, when Clearwater attorney Richard Pearse Jr. issued a report recommending Michael Schiavo not be allowed to disconnect Terri Schiavo's feeding tube among a number of other matters.

PEARSE SAID IN AN INTERVIEW LAST WEEK HE MADE THAT DETERMINATION BECAUSE MICHAEL SCHIAVO STOOD TO BENEFIT FINANCIALLY FROM HIS WIFE'S DEATH BY INHERITING ABOUT $750,000 IN A MEDICAL TRUST FUND.

HERE'S SOME PIECED TOGETHER INFO: - Some information is repetitive

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RICHARD, L PEARSE, JR - FLORIDA ATTORNEY AT LAW,

GUARDIAN AD LITEM FOR TERRI SCHIAVO - AT ONE POINT IN THIS LITIGATION

In June 1998, soon after Michael asked the court for permission to remove Terri's feeding tube, the court appointed Richard L. Pearse, Jr. Attorney at Law as Terri's Guardian Ad Litem (GAL). Pearse's job was to investigate the facts of Terri's case and represent her interests in court. He issued a 10-page report in Dec. 1998 on his finding, and also in January 2000 testified on his findings before Judge Greer.

Ironically, at the beginning of the case in 1998, it was Attorney George Felos who requested an independent guardian for Terri Schiavo and recommended Richard Pearse Jr, Attorney at Law.

At a January 2000 trial, Pearse concluded that he had not found clear and convincing evidence that Terri would have rejected life support. He said she should be kept alive and questioned Michael's Schiavo's credibility.

Pearse urged in no uncertain terms that the petition for removing the feeding tube be denied. He made it clear that he did not believe Schiavo's sudden recollection of Terri's wishes.

Pearse stated "Regarding the pending petition filed by Mr.Michael Schiavo to withdraw the gastric feeding tube which sustains the ward (Terri), (ward = Terri throughout) Mr. Schiavo claims that the ward (Terri) told him after their marriage that she would not want to be kept alive artificially,"

Pearse wrote, "Mr. Schiavo indicated strongly to me (Attorney Pearse) that his petition to withdraw life support has nothing to do with the money held in the guardianship estate, which he would inherit upon the ward's (Terri's) death as her sole heir-in-law."

Pearce continued: "The only direct evidence probative of the issue of the ward's (Terri's) intent is Mr. Schiavo's hearsay testimony regarding removal the ward's feeding tube which would inevitably result in her death" However, his credibility is necessarily adversely affected by the obvious financial benefit to him in the event of her death while still married to him. Her death also permits him to "get on" with his life, as Mr. Schiavo stated during questioning."

Per Attorney Pearse's Report - "Since there is no corroborative evidence of the ward's (Terri's) intentions, and since the only witness claiming to have such evidence is the one person who will realize a direct and substantial financial benefit from the ward's death, the undersigned guardian ad litem is of the opinion that the evidence of the ward's (Terri's) intentions developed by the investigation, DOES NOT MEET THE CLEAR AND CONVINCING STANDARD."< In his report, Pearse said Michael Schiavo was not a credible witness to his wife's end-of-life wishes because he waited years before coming forward with the claim that she wanted to die. Pearse also noted that Michael Schiavo would benefit financially from her death and be able to "move on with his life" in Mr Schiavo's words.

Pearse stated that after Michael Schiavo received the malpractice settlement, "HE HAS A CHANGE OF HEART CONCERNING FURTHER TREATMENT OF HIS WIFE,". Pearse, noting that Schiavo would benefit financially if his wife died, recommended that the feeding tube remain.

That Michael Schiavo's attitude and actions changed as soon as the money from the malpractice suit was in the bank was not lost in Pearse's Expert Court Appointed Review. – (News Report Comment)

Per Attorney Pearse - "From that point forward, the ward's husband has isolated the ward from her parents, has on at least one occasion refused to consent for the ward to be treated for an infection, and, ultimately, four years later, has filed the instant petition for the withdrawal of life support on the basis of evidence apparently known only to him which could have been asserted at any time during the ward's illness," he said.

Attorney Pearse said he was "troubled by the fact that Michael waited until 1998 to petition to remove the feeding tube, even though he claims to have known her wishes all along, and that he waited until he won a malpractice suit based on a professed desire to take care of her into old age".

Pearse continued: As her husband, Michael would inherit what is left of her malpractice award, originally $700,000, which is held in a trust fund administered by the court. Accounting of the fund is sealed. BUT MICHAEL'S LAWYER, GEORGE FELOS, SAID MOST OF IT HAS BEEN SPENT ON LEGAL FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THE CUSTODY DISPUTE.

Pearse also said he did not find Joan and Scott Schiavo's testimony credible.<<<<<<<<<<<<<

* * INTERESTING - By the time the case came to trial in Jan. 2000, Michael Schiavo had found two witnesses to corroborate his version of Terri's wishes: Scott Schiavo, his brother, and Joan Schiavo, a sister-in-law. When Pearse initially became involved in 1998 Michael had NO OTHER WITNESSES TO HIS STORY * * .

Pearse stated "One of the interesting and ironic aspects of this case is that all of the parties have portrayed themselves as representing her interests," he said. "It's always desirable that a person in Terri's position have an independent representative who has no particular interest in the case other than Terri." (THIS IS STANDARD JUDICIAL PROCEDURE IN CASES LIKE THIS – PARTICULARLY WITH THE LACK OF AGREEMENT BETWEEN FAMILY MEMBERS. – Ed)

Pearse recommended that a guardian ad litem (not necessarily himself) be appointed to protect Terri's interests on a go-forward basis.

Charging Pearse was "biased", Felos promptly had Pearse removed as guardian ad litem. No one was appointed in his place by Judge Greer.

GEORGE FELOS RECOMMENDED A GUARDIAN AD LITEM IN THE FIRST PLACE. FELOS DIDN'T LIKE WHAT THE EXPERT WITNESS ATTORNEY PEARSE HAD TO SAY, THEN HAD JUDGE GREER REMOVE PEARSE AND NULLIFY THIS EXPERT WITNESSES TESTIMONY – IS THIS DUE PROCESS AND PROPER ETHICAL STANDARDS REQUIRED OF A FLORIDA JUDGE ?! WHAT IS GOING ON HERE! - ED

Greer accepted their testimony as "creditable and reliable." .......(This is inferior to "clear and convincing" required in Attorney Pearse's expert report, and clearly would have been the prudent requirement under Florida Law for the Judge to require in these unusual circumstances - Ed.

Judge Greer also dismissed the criticism that "Michael Schiavo has not acted in good faith by waiting eight plus years" to file his petition. "THAT ASSERTION HARDLY SEEMS WORTHY OF COMMENT," GREER SAID.

GREER RULED IN MICHAEL SCHIAVO'S FAVOR.

Other Added Info:

Pearse stated in this report - "Since there is no corroborative evidence of the ward's (Terri's) intentions, and since the only witness claiming to have such evidence is the one person who will realize a direct and substantial financial benefit from the ward's death, the undersigned guardian ad litem is of the opinion that the evidence of the ward's intentions developed by the investigation, DOES NOT MEET THE CLEAR AND CONVINCING STANDARD."<< THESE ARE VERY IMPORTANT LEGAL WORDS - ED

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The Schindlers had contacted a woman Michael dated in 1991 who told them Michael had confessed to her he did not know what Terri would want. Although the woman refused to sign an affidavit, it bought the Schindlers some time.

And with it, they found Trudy Capone.

A former co-worker of Michael's, Capone signed an affidavit on May 9, 2001, stating "Michael confided in me all the time about Terri ...He said to me many times that he had no idea what her wishes were."

Attorney Patricia Anderson, who began representing the Schindlers in 2001, said the failure to replace Pearse has hindered the parents' case because Michael Schiavo, as Terri's legal guardian, controls her medical care and even her visitors.

The parents' hands are tied in terms of what evidence they could present," she said, "because they didn't have access to Terri. They're not even permitted to know if she's been running a temperature. If a guardian ad litem had been appointed, it would have been a different story." =

480 posted on 10/31/2003 8:07:33 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)

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