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Southern CA fires - Live Thread 10/27
10/27/03 | Myself

Posted on 10/26/2003 9:52:12 PM PST by spectr17

Southern CA fires - Live Thread 10/27

Cal Fire Maps

http://wildfire.cr.usgs.gov/ca_geomac/viewer.htm

http://www.incidentcontrol.com

Live online scanner feeds for fire, cops, CDF, air attack

http://www.live365.com/stations/kb6jag

FYI, this one gives pop ups if you use it.

No pop ups on this feed

http://www.police-scanner.info/livescan.htm

Another live scanner feed.

Click on Big Bear Feed

http://www.compucations.com/nuke/html/modules.php?name=LiveScanners

another live feed for socal, Verdugo Fire Communications Center

http://verdugo.ci.glendale.ca.us/radio.html

CHP Dispatch

http://cad.chp.ca.gov/

CDF AIR CHANNELS ---------------- Red - 151.220 - Air to ground units Blue - 151.280 - Air to air Green - 151.295 - Air to air Yellow - 151.310 - Air to air Victor - 122.925 AM - Air to air for contract helicopters

List of channels for SoCal

http://www.qsl.net/ke6alv/

Get a copy of Police call for when you're mobile.

http://www.policecall.com/

San Bernardino National Forest

171.475 mhz and 172.225

123.9750 National Air Tanker Base Freq. 135.9750 Air ops 151.2200 CDF Red Air to Ground 151.2650 CDF Region 151.3100 CDF Air Tactics 6 151.3550 CDF Command Net 1 154.2650 OES White Fire 2 154.2800 OES White Fire 1 154.2950 OES White Fire 3 164.1250 Fire Camp Service Net 166.6125 "Command" Fontana area 166.8500 Air attack 167.9500 BLM Air to Ground 168.0500 NIFC Tac 1 168.0750 NIFC Tac 3 168.200 NIFC Tac 2 (Crew Net) 168.2500 BLM? "Command" 168.4000 BLM "Command" 168.6000 NIFC Tac 3 168.6250 Air Guard 169.1250 Calif. Fire Travel Net 169.0625 vehicle mechanics? 170.0000 Air to Ground Region 5 173.9125 Region 5 Tac 4 173.9625 Region 5 Tac 5 173.9875 Region 5 Tac 6 415.5500 National Air channel

HAM

145.220

Los Angeles Area

KNBC: http://www.nbc4.tv

KABC: http://www.abc7.com

KCBS: http://www.cbs2.com

KTTV: http://www.fox11la.com

KCAL: http://www.kcal.com

San Diego

http://nbcsandiego.feedroom.com/?fr_story=af0368e01c0323615f2e6f30970885b317fe905c


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: fire; firestorm; socalfires
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To: spectr17
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1009327/posts?page=48
1,902 posted on 10/27/2003 8:10:35 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Logan's Home! Logan's Home! Logan's Home! Logan's Home! Logan's Home!)
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To: All
GOOD NIGHT ALL....my neck's hurting .....need some sleep. Prayers for all the families/friends out there in California....including my own. God keep them safe; God be with the firefighters, let none lose their lives.

1,903 posted on 10/27/2003 8:10:45 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Brad's Gramma
thanks
1,904 posted on 10/27/2003 8:11:13 PM PST by spectr17
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To: Thinkin
I see where you are going - but I disagree.

Most of the media would be all over themselves in the coverage if your speculation were true.

That's my devil's advocacy take on it.
1,905 posted on 10/27/2003 8:11:13 PM PST by Gabz (Smoke-gnatzies - small minds buzzing in your business - SWAT'EM)
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To: nicmarlo
All they said on KFI was that the expensive area of Chatsworth seems spared as the fire moves around it into Brown Canyon which is above DeSota.
1,906 posted on 10/27/2003 8:11:13 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Don't forget to Visit/donate at http://www.georgewbush.com)
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To: nicmarlo
I think somebody took the scorched earth idea too literal this time. This is unbelievable.
1,907 posted on 10/27/2003 8:11:32 PM PST by swheats
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To: lainie
I'm probably 8 miles from the foothills but that 8 miles is covered generously with juniper trees which ignite and burn fast. I noticed a smoke scent last night - I guess the whole SoCal area is beginning to be affected.

You know the air purifier that John and Ken and the others advertise? I bought one in July and, even when we had the heavy smoke for the first two days of Grand Prix, not one hint of smoke was smelled inside the house. I can see why the Pentagon used them after 9-11. The unit is a lifesaver for your lungs.

1,908 posted on 10/27/2003 8:12:09 PM PST by okimhere
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To: sf4dubya
I cannot believe people are starting another fire in the area! Would like to throw them into the fire!
1,909 posted on 10/27/2003 8:12:12 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Don't forget to Visit/donate at http://www.georgewbush.com)
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To: nicmarlo
Wish I knew what FReeper to credit "must not sleep...the clowns will eat me" but I thought it qualified as a first class FReeperism.Many heavy eyes watch these threads.
1,910 posted on 10/27/2003 8:12:35 PM PST by Free Trapper
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To: lainie
if people would just clear the fuel

Now if I can just establish a one mile clear space I will be safe.

Fires like these can throw a hot brand up to a mile!!

1,912 posted on 10/27/2003 8:15:32 PM PST by Not now, Not ever! (10101100)
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To: restornu; Gabz
Thanks for the excellent maps.

This is one shows EXACTLY what is wrong and what is missing from the national news coverage: detailed info.

I know that the producers will argue that its too detailed, unfamiliar, and won't hold the attention of those not from the area. But that is because they are so locked into programming to the level of a 3 year old with ADD. Too many news producers who are schooled in the infotainment/news magazine/drama and emotion school of broadcasting. Its all about flashing lots of images quickly, dramatic flames instead of precise info, shocking totals instead of precise info, pictures of women crying in front of their burned homes, instead of precise info. All have their place in news, but the actual news details are missing.

How hard would it be to put this detailed map on full screen, like a weather map, and have a reporter/anchor walk through with a pointer explaining what is happening/has happened at each location, building a complete picture of the real scope, history, pattern, and dynamics of the situation? It works with wars, weather, and even car chases. But noooo, the producers are so afraid that people will immediately switch the channel over to Baywatch. Yet if done well, the opposite would occur.

This is one case where I strongly fault Faux News Channel and their tabloid mentality. Its great that they include a conservative perspective, but their producers are from the flash and shock MTV-style entertainment mag side of the news biz.

Gabz, you were in TV news, am I off base on this?

1,913 posted on 10/27/2003 8:15:32 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat (www.firemackbrown.com)
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To: spectr17
Where's the news only thread?

Here

1,914 posted on 10/27/2003 8:15:32 PM PST by meyer
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To: nicmarlo
Take care and thanks for the updates!
1,915 posted on 10/27/2003 8:15:32 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Don't forget to Visit/donate at http://www.georgewbush.com)
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To: sf4dubya
W, this is freaking me out - all these reports of serial arson and yet news just refers to "wildfires" and "brushfires", or mentions the ONE fire accidently started by a hunter . . . HELLO MEDIA . . . something very scary is afoot . . .
1,916 posted on 10/27/2003 8:15:33 PM PST by LikeLight (_______________________________________________________________________________________)
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FF at Plunge Creek near Highland by water tank are firing backfires
1,917 posted on 10/27/2003 8:15:47 PM PST by spectr17
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To: restornu; Gabz
Thanks for the excellent maps.

This is one shows EXACTLY what is wrong and what is missing from the national news coverage: detailed info.

I know that the producers will argue that its too detailed, unfamiliar, and won't hold the attention of those not from the area. But that is because they are so locked into programming to the level of a 3 year old with ADD. Too many news producers who are schooled in the infotainment/news magazine/drama and emotion school of broadcasting. Its all about flashing lots of images quickly, dramatic flames instead of precise info, shocking totals instead of precise info, pictures of women crying in front of their burned homes, instead of precise info. All have their place in news, but the actual news details are missing.

How hard would it be to put this detailed map on full screen, like a weather map, and have a reporter/anchor walk through with a pointer explaining what is happening/has happened at each location, building a complete picture of the real scope, history, pattern, and dynamics of the situation? It works with wars, weather, and even car chases. But noooo, the producers are so afraid that people will immediately switch the channel over to Baywatch. Yet if done well, the opposite would occur.

This is one case where I strongly fault Faux News Channel and their tabloid mentality. Its great that they include a conservative perspective, but their producers are from the flash and shock MTV-style entertainment mag side of the news biz.

Gabz, you were in TV news, am I off base on this?

1,918 posted on 10/27/2003 8:15:47 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat (www.firemackbrown.com)
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To: spectr17
Gene Zimmerman, the SBNF supervisor has mismanaged that forest into a disaster and should be fired.

"Fired" takes on a whole new meaning now. Sadly, he cannot reap that which he has sewn.

1,919 posted on 10/27/2003 8:15:47 PM PST by meyer
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To: Free Trapper
Wish I knew what FReeper to credit "must not sleep...the clowns will eat me" but I thought it qualified as a first class FReeperism.Many heavy eyes watch these threads.

It's from an episode of the Simpsons, where Homer in flashback is showing how he built Bart his own toddler bed, that was supposed to be with Krusty the Clown bed posts, but turned out to look spooky as Hell.

Baby Bart kept chanting, "Must not sleep,... the clown will eat me"

1,920 posted on 10/27/2003 8:15:48 PM PST by dogbyte12
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