Southern CA fires - Live Thread 10/27

10/27/03 | Myself

[spectr17]

Southern CA fires - Live Thread 10/27

Cal Fire Maps

http://wildfire.cr.usgs.gov/ca_geomac/viewer.htm

http://www.incidentcontrol.com

Live online scanner feeds for fire, cops, CDF, air attack

http://www.live365.com/stations/kb6jag

FYI, this one gives pop ups if you use it.

No pop ups on this feed

http://www.police-scanner.info/livescan.htm

Another live scanner feed.

Click on Big Bear Feed

http://www.compucations.com/nuke/html/modules.php?name=LiveScanners

another live feed for socal, Verdugo Fire Communications Center

http://verdugo.ci.glendale.ca.us/radio.html

CHP Dispatch

http://cad.chp.ca.gov/

CDF AIR CHANNELS ---------------- Red - 151.220 - Air to ground units Blue - 151.280 - Air to air Green - 151.295 - Air to air Yellow - 151.310 - Air to air Victor - 122.925 AM - Air to air for contract helicopters

List of channels for SoCal

http://www.qsl.net/ke6alv/

Get a copy of Police call for when you're mobile.

http://www.policecall.com/

San Bernardino National Forest

171.475 mhz and 172.225

123.9750 National Air Tanker Base Freq. 135.9750 Air ops 151.2200 CDF Red Air to Ground 151.2650 CDF Region 151.3100 CDF Air Tactics 6 151.3550 CDF Command Net 1 154.2650 OES White Fire 2 154.2800 OES White Fire 1 154.2950 OES White Fire 3 164.1250 Fire Camp Service Net 166.6125 "Command" Fontana area 166.8500 Air attack 167.9500 BLM Air to Ground 168.0500 NIFC Tac 1 168.0750 NIFC Tac 3 168.200 NIFC Tac 2 (Crew Net) 168.2500 BLM? "Command" 168.4000 BLM "Command" 168.6000 NIFC Tac 3 168.6250 Air Guard 169.1250 Calif. Fire Travel Net 169.0625 vehicle mechanics? 170.0000 Air to Ground Region 5 173.9125 Region 5 Tac 4 173.9625 Region 5 Tac 5 173.9875 Region 5 Tac 6 415.5500 National Air channel

HAM

145.220

Los Angeles Area

KNBC: http://www.nbc4.tv

KABC: http://www.abc7.com

KCBS: http://www.cbs2.com

KTTV: http://www.fox11la.com

KCAL: http://www.kcal.com

San Diego

http://nbcsandiego.feedroom.com/?fr_story=af0368e01c0323615f2e6f30970885b317fe905c

[spectr17]

As far as the woods is concerned, the fire is probably the best way to get rid of the beetles now. But, there's so much to lose up there that thinning and clearing would have been the best path to removing them in the first place. They could have cleared a bunch of bad wood and burned it in the middle of the desert somewhere where it couldn't harm anything else.

THe area has neeeded a good burn for decades. That is why the beetle did the damge the past years and now Mother Nature will thin the forest her way. Gene Zimmerman, the SBNF supervisor has mismanaged that forest into a disaster and should be fired.

[PhiKapMom]

Was watching KTLA this morning when the fire jumped the 118 and in a few minutes instead of one hot spot there were three and enlarging by the minute!

[woodyinscc]

Scarborough Country just did an interview with a Seirra Geek and a Pro Bush innitiative.

I saw the interview, and Sen. Crapo from Idaho just tore the Sierra geek a new one. President Bush is holding all the cards on this issue, and is on record to implement the changes needed to prevent these fires from taking life and property. I coud not believe the geek recomending home owners go to a web site. It was pathetic.

[Yaelle]

Jeffrey pines do smell like vanilla when scratched. There are tons of 'em in Idyllwild.

[nicmarlo]

yw, sorry we even had to tell ya.

[okimhere]

I'll post what I hear.

I'd sure appreciate it. I know how busy you've been, keeping everyone informed. After this is all over, we'll throw a party for y'all who have helped so tremendously with all the late-breaking, heartbreaking news.

[Howlin]

Are you staying safe, woody?

[nicmarlo]

Incident: 1697 Type: Report of Fire
Location: EB SR210 AT MOUNTAIN AV (Rancho Cucamonga area)
Zoom Map: 571 5J Info as of: 10/27/2003 7:56:06 PM

ADDITIONAL DETAILS
7:53PM - 1039 FD ENRT
7:51PM - POWER POLE ON FIRE

[ErnBatavia]

with all due respect, many of us are here to read about the fires...

With all due respect, I tend to check the number of posts to any thread.....once you get over 50 or 60 you're well off-subject and into FReepmail mode (if we lived in a perfect world)...

[spectr17]

Are those the ones with the bark that smells vaguely of butterscotch? I remember when hiking in the San Jacintos near Idyllwild, I saw large stands of dead conifers up on the ridges. Are these the ones that have succumbed to bark beetles? And is it just the Jeffrey Pines? When I hiked through that area I remember someone mentioning a pest killing trees. Until that point I just thought the trees were dying as part of a natural cycle.

Having hiked through the burn zone south of Mount Laguna, which lasted at least 15 hiking miles, I have a profound respect for the damage wildfire can do.

Yes, the Jeffrey Pine. Huge pine cones that almost knock you out if they hit you when they fall.

I flew over the SBNF a month ago and the whole forest is dead or dying from the beetle. Sad to see but now it will be time for a rebirth of the forest.

[nicmarlo]

Update on Fire near UPLAND:

Incident: 2938 Type: Structure or Grass Fire
Location: 16TH JWO BENSON
Zoom Map: Click Here
Info as of: 10/27/2003 7:57:35 PM

ADDITIONAL DETAILS
7:54PM - UNIT IS 1023 - NEW 1020, FIRE IS NORTH OF THE FWY (NOT SOUTH OF), JUST EAST OF THE BASELINE EXIT, ABOUT 1000 FT NORTH OF THE FRWY, STILL IN UPLAND
7:44PM - 1039 UPLAND FD
7:43PM - PLZ ROLL UPLAND FIRE FOR TELEPHONE POLE ON FIRE IN FIELD

RESPONDING OFFICERS STATUS
7:43PM - CHP Unit On Scene

[oceanperch]

Yeah but bitchen about that "woman" from Florida non stop.

If it was not for a lot of Freepers advocating that "woman" would have starved to death.

Get over your anti Terri attitude or make your own thread about it. Damn.

[Gabz]

My apologies!!!!!

[nicmarlo]

Border Communications Center
Number of Incidents: 17 Last Updated at: 10/27/2003 7:58:45 PM
No. Time Type Location Area
1034 7:57PM Structure or Grass Fire BOCC Border Comm Center
ADDITIONAL DETAILS
7:57PM - RP ADV SMOKE

[ErnBatavia]

That she blows..."Rode hard and put away wet"!

(It's actually - sort of - a pretty drive)

[PhiKapMom]

What are you talking about? Having her husband on Larry King for the whole program when these fires are going on was ridiculous. Sorry to disappoint you but I wasn't involved in those threads so don't take it out on me. Tonight was not the night to be spending time on that with her husband -- why give him a forum? And why cover Scott Peterson? Why cover the RAT debates and Sharpton?

Guess I wanted to hear about the latest on the fires not see the TV coverage film in the first 5 minutes of the cable shows that I have seen most of the day.

[nicmarlo]

YUCCAS!!!!

[meyer]

Gene Zimmerman, the SBNF supervisor has mismanaged that forest into a disaster and should be fired.

"Fired" takes on a whole new meaning now. Sadly, he cannot reap that which he has sewn.

[The KG9 Kid]

Kind of. Joshua Trees.