Florida: Complaints over restaurants not complying with smoking ban

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[SheLion]

DUVAL COUNTY, FL -- Florida's smoking ban was officially put into place on July 1st but not everyone is abiding. The state has had close to 800 complaints on restaurants that are not complying with the rules.

In Duval County, there have been 19 complaints with the majority coming from customers of RP McMurphy's located in Jacksonville Beach. The restaurant has received a warning and has 30 days to comply.

[Just another Joe]

The state is sovereign. All property within its confines belongs and is controlled by the state. Your right to own property is granted to you by the state. Its right to remove your property is absolute.

You have just outed yourself, again, as a true socialist.

[VRWC_minion]

If you're gonna be one of them, you might as well say it proudly instead of pretending you're somewhere in the middle.

Because I disagree with the bans.

[metesky]

Rockefeller Center 1932

Notice the two gentlemen on the left and the man in the center, minnie. Notice the man on the right with the empty pint. No safety hats, no safety lines, no harnesses.

Smoke 'em if ya got 'em!

[Cboldt]

The state is sovereign. All property within its confines belongs and is controlled by the state. Your right to own property is granted to you by the state. Its right to remove your property is absolute.

Amendment V of the US Constitution "...nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation."

Not quite absolute, in the general sense. Certainly, no individual has a snowball's chance in hell of beating the government at its own game.

[Shryke]

Apparently you have left the thread. Unfortunate, despite your "get a clue" insults posted to others. You confirm my belief that the anti-smoker's position is strictly based on "annoyance", and therefore dishonest and socialist.

[VRWC_minion]

Now you are just being silly.

You have a basic misconception of property.

[Conspiracy Guy]

It must have been a fluke that we all lived through it ; )

[markman46]

nope, just because a 1993 EPA flawed study says so it's not so.
when a good years (20-30) long study of children of smokers shows beyord any resaonable dought that SHM causes serious problems then we can talk about banning smoking in homes, but not before if at all.

[SheLion]

And whose threads are 'our threads' and how long to you have to be at FR to be 'on' them?

Excuse me bud, but we have a large group of Conservative smokers in Free Republic. Your either with us or against us. Your either for the rights of the business owners or against free interprise. Your choice.

You don't need to smoke to be with us. You don't need to even LIKE cigarettes, but to try to take away the rights of the business owners is w r o n g.

No matter what you think about smoking.. TOBACCO.., it's still a legal commodity. Right?

[Grit]

Because I disagree with the bans.

On what grounds?

[CSM]

"I don't have the time to handle each one of your statements"

Don't worry, I am used to that from you.

"Evenif you barter item A for item B. Without the gov't the person who gave you item B can take it back if his gun is bigger than yours."

And by your love of government, your solution would be for the government to ban guns!

[Publius6961]

The last time I looked at a CO detector the minimum detectable of amount of CO was 9 PPM. Thanks for proving my point.

Not so fast, grasshopper.

He has done no such thing.
Your brainless point referred to "anything above the zero baseline level".

I know I know... the end justifies the means, and what's a little hyperbole?

[Madame Dufarge]

It really doesn't matter

It doesn't really matter, Saint VRWC, Patron Saint of the Trodlodyte Worker?

I guess you think every bar and restaurant owner is just another oppressor of the masses, huh?

So far you folks have not come up with a winning argument.

We "folks" have always had the winning argument.

It's just that weaker types such as yourself have wormed your way onto the tit of Nanny Government while the rest of us were making an honest living.

It's happened before, you always lose in the end.

[Shryke]

The new front is smoking at home and in the car but by the time you folks notice, the anti's will be steamrolling you there too and just like the bars and restaurants, you won't know what hit you. So far you folks have not come up with a winning argument.

Interesting. Apparently you would condone illegalization of smoking in a car and a home. Tell me, VRWC, do you have any regard for private property at all?

[metesky]

RightFighter? Bwahahahaha!

[Grit]

You have a basic misconception of property.

Please enlighten me. I am all ears.

[VRWC_minion]

However, our points are that even though this may be the case, we do not agree with it! You do agree with it and appreciate your government governing every aspect of your life!.

I hate to be the one to break the news to you but reality is reality.

[Conspiracy Guy]

And I wrote the following for mini as well:

Smoke Gnatzies

They buzz around your head until,
You think it will explode.
You’d like to catch them all and flush,
They’d swirl down the commode.
They agitate, they irritate,
They just won’t go away.
They want to tell you how to live,
To all of them I say.
Be gone you pest, just fly away,
My freedom you won’t take.
If not for all the buzzing,
I’d swear you were a snake.
But snakes are bad, and you’re just sad,
So go and bug some cat.
Cause if you don’t get out of here,
There’s gonna be a splat.

Flurry 9/16/3

[VRWC_minion]

You have just outed yourself, again, as a true socialist.

Then the founders of our states are socialists.

[E Rocc]

And by your love of government, your solution would be for the government to ban guns!

If they want the government to forbid anything that might be "bad for us", that would probably be a pretty good idea. And I'm not talking about the potential dangers of guns to the users. >:)

-Eric