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Pregnant woman shot over cigarette (The Hate has GOT to STOP)
The Times-Picayune ^ | 5 October 2002 | Michael Perlstein

Posted on 10/06/2002 7:48:41 AM PDT by SheLion

Edited on 07/14/2004 12:59:06 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Most people cringe at the sight of a pregnant woman smoking. Some people feel strongly enough to say something in protest. But one local man took matters into his own hands early Friday when, according to police, he shot an expectant mother who refused to put out her cigarette.


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TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Culture/Society; Government; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: antismokers; butts; cigarettes; individualliberty; michaeldobbs; niconazis; prohibitionists; pufflist; smokingbans; taxes; tobacco
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To: Sloth
Go to reply #326.
341 posted on 10/08/2002 12:47:39 PM PDT by Just another Joe
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To: waterstraat
I stand corrected. My apologies.
342 posted on 10/08/2002 12:50:06 PM PDT by Gabz
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To: Just another Joe
You have some good points (early death, etc.), but that addresses the societal cost/benefit analysis of smoking. What is at issue is the decision by an individual expectant mother to smoke while pregnant.
343 posted on 10/08/2002 12:52:37 PM PDT by Sloth
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To: SheLion
" smoked before, during and AFTER my pregnancy"

I smoked before, during, and after all four of my pregnancies. My children are all grown, every one of them above average in intelligence, every one a productive citizen. I'd like to have seen the color of the guy's eyeballs that thought he could tell ME wheter or not I could smoke when I was pregnant. I think I'd have been all over him like stink on sh*t. Nuff said.

344 posted on 10/08/2002 12:54:03 PM PDT by redhead
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To: Sloth
What is at issue is the decision by an individual expectant mother to smoke while pregnant.

Then we come back to, "'mind your own business, fascist' and 'my momma did heroin and I turned out fine'."

345 posted on 10/08/2002 12:57:18 PM PDT by Just another Joe
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To: Sloth
What is at issue is the decision by an individual expectant mother to smoke while pregnant.

And actually, what is at issue is the demonization of smoking and smokers by anti-smoking organizations, using junk science, propoganda, and dollars provided by smokers themselves by subterfuge (ie Master Settlement Agreement and tobacco related overtaxing), to the point that a fruitcake would pull a gun on a pregnant woman JUST because she is smoking.

346 posted on 10/08/2002 1:12:49 PM PDT by Just another Joe
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To: Sloth
You must be so proud! Did you drink hard and huff paint thinner, too?

hahaaaaaaaa we didn't KNOW about huffing 29 years ago. LOL!

You sound like YOU know a lot about it though. heh!

347 posted on 10/08/2002 2:37:07 PM PDT by SheLion
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To: Sloth
What is at issue is the decision by an individual expectant mother to smoke while pregnant.

On this thread, you will find plenty of personal testimonials from mothers who smoked throughout their preganancies and had perfectly healthly babies.

The largest population surge ever to occur in the Western world occurred in the post-WWII period, when the largest percentage of smokers ever, inhabited the West. The result - the healthiest, longest-lived generation in the history of the World.

I challenge you to find a single reported case anywhere, ever of maternal smoking being the cause of death or ill-health of a new-born.

All that exists are dubious statistical assertions made on the basis of survey results, couched in terms of "may", "possible association", and the most important one, "more study is required".

You forget that until the last five years, humans have been constantly surrounded by smoke since they first discovered fire - think fires in caves, fireplaces in homes, candles and lanterns, etc.

In short, there is no compelling evidence that smoking harms your unborn child and billions of real, live, healthy children born to smoking mothers throughout the past millenium to show otherwise.

How many kids born to smoking mothers do you know? How are they doing? Think about it, don't just listen to the mainstream media - that practice is definitely unhealthy!

348 posted on 10/09/2002 11:36:01 PM PDT by I'm_With_Orwell
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To: Publius6961
Hey, if you want to take the chance with the life of your child, go ahead. It's a free country. I feel bad for the child, but hey, as long as the adults get to do what they want, what the hell, right? Kids oughta be forced to adapt to our whims.
349 posted on 10/18/2002 7:11:46 PM PDT by ward_of_the_state
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