LAS VEGAS! Casino profits could go up in (no) smoke

PressAtlanticCity.com ^ | 24 September 2002 | JOE WEINERT

[SheLion]

"The debate is clearly not about health as it is about social engineering to denormalize smoking."

They can denormalize smoking all they want. They won't be getting our money!

[SheLion]

[Great Dane]

Johnson said he was told that the Australian smoking ban caused a sharp decrease in casino revenue initially but that business is beginning to recover.

This is the song we hear from all the fanatics, but it is a lie.

[SheLion]

Beginning to recover............

Want a bridge? I got a cheap one for ya!

[AzJP]

Las Vegas will always have pockets of the old style, but the big money is now family recreation resorts and business retreats........health spas and all.

Sammy and Frank are gone. The last time I was there the families on expense accounts outnumbered the hardcore.

Amazing to me was a baccarat table, high stakes, and NO SMOKING!!!!!

Meanwhile, on the edges of town, rooms full of chain smokers tugging away at the quarter slots.

Siegfried and Roy are in a nonsmoke room, and they need trucks to haul away their money!

Changes.

[Lanza]

Didn't someone open a nonsmoking casino in Vegas in the late 90's and it tanked? Does anyone remember? I love LV, and I like to smoke when I gamble. A doctor from LA bummed a smoke off me while there once. He said he had to come to LV to smoke, because it is so politically incorrect in LA.

[SheLion]

He said he had to come to LV to smoke, because it is so politically incorrect in LA.

I just watched a documentary on Las Vegas. They tried for awhile to make it Family Friendly. But, that did not work. Adults who went to Sin City did not want to skirt around baby carriages. So, Las Vegas went back to be the adult STRIP it always has been. Now, the health fanatics want to go in and take away an adult activity: smoking.

Smoking and drinking and playing the slots are for adults. I can't believe they are going to ruin the city over the smoking issue, when all the casinos have huge smoke eaters that take care of it all.

[DonQ]

Do we really believe that if people can't smoke then they won't go to casinos? It might be a good idea if stopping the smoking means that people will stop frittering away their rent money. But what will really happen is that people will pour money into the casino for maybe an hour, and then go outside for smoke, and possibly stop throwing their money away.

[muir_redwoods]

Say what you want but it is undeniable that casinos stink, literally. I've been to Las Vegas and I once worked for a tribe that owns the biggest casino in the world. Casinos stink. Smoke is only bearable if you are a smoker and fewer and fewer people are.

Enjoy your tobacco but understand that the majority defines the norm. If fewer people are smoking, people who cater to crowds will adjust. Change is constant

[Eastbound]

"Smoking and drinking and playing the slots are for adults. I can't believe they are going to ruin the city over the smoking issue, when all the casinos have huge smoke eaters that take care of it all."

So it looks like the nazis at the state level are making their play. As Delare goes, so goes the nation?

[dogbyte12]

Curious about the fact that smokers are two times as likely to gamble in casinos. Is that a sociological study waiting to happen? If ya gamble that you won't get the big C, throwing a few grand down on the craps table isn't much of a stretch for ya either.

[southernnorthcarolina]

Sammy and Frank are gone.

Smokers both. Sammy died of throat cancer (surely a horrible death), and Frank died of a heart attack (but also had cancer, and had suffered multiple strokes).

Possibly the least surprising factoid in the article is the mention that casino patrons were twice as likely to smoke as the population as a whole. People who think they can beat the odds in one arena probably think they can beat the odds in others.

[spectre]

While you have a point about the hazards of smoking, we all have to die of something, don't we?

Don't smoke? Don't drink? Eat Fat? Crave Sugar? Got the munchies? Steak and Dairy products..BAD! Everything that's good, is bad for us?

No matter how healthy a life-style, people are gonna feel mighty stupid when they're in the hospital "dying from nothin"...sw

[SheLion]

No matter how healthy a life-style, people are gonna feel mighty stupid when they're in the hospital "dying from nothin"...sw

You can't talk sense to these people. I look at them and think "This is a Conservative? Go figure!"

No wonder our party is going to the dogs......

[southernnorthcarolina]

While you have a point about the hazards of smoking, we all have to die of something, don't we?

Sure, but later is better than sooner.

As a conservative, a Republican, and a North Carolinian, I am uncomfortable in the anti-smoking camp. And I do not relish the prospects of local, state, or Federal laws making unreasonable demands on private enterprise. Nor do I think I'm going to instantly contract lung cancer by entering a smoky bar.

OTOH, I can't understand how anyone can think it's a great idea to roll up dried leaves, set them on fire, and suck the smoke into their lungs. To the extent possible, I avoid such people, both as acquaintances and as employees.

[jwh_Denver]

"Enjoy your tobacco but understand that the majority defines the norm. If fewer people are smoking, people who cater to crowds will adjust. Change is constant"

Crap. This article did not say anything about the casinos wanting to change but changes may be forced on them by outside agencies. Sooner or later the Social Engineers will body slam you with outright BS and you're going to squeal like a stuck pig.

[Ajnin]

I just returned from Vegas a few days ago. I couldn't believe all the illegal aliens that have infested the strip. The last time I was there 10 years ago I didn't see any illegal aliens. Now, they are on every block . They loiter in large and small groups harassing tourists in an effort to pawn off pornography. It's too bad Yuma Sector lost the Border Patrol station in Bullhead city.

[SheLion]

Iandoli warned that any action, or non-action, by the hospitality industry could expose it to substantial legal damages.

Read this? If the casino's do not comply, they will be taken to court.

[jwh_Denver]

Not if we kill all the lawyers.

[MadisonA]

I don't think the casinos are going to shut down just because some people can't go without a ciggie. People still go out to restaurants and they have a cig outside afterward. What's the big deal? I think anyone who can't wait one hour or two for a cigarette is totally unreasonable and probably has a problem. Any kind of smoke should be kept outside IMO. Even the smoke created in a kitchen needs proper ventilation and and fans directly overhead.

I was playing a slot and this woman sits right next to me blowing smoke on my brand new sweater. The cloud was so bad and thick I could hardly breathe. It was terrible and I had to stop playing and move. That is totally inconsiderate and unreasonable that people have to breath smoke indoors. If I wanted to breath in smoke I would build a campfire and stay home.