Driver Claims Condit Told Him: 'They'd Help Me Bury the Body'

NewsMax ^ | 2/27/02 | Limbacher

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Vince Flammini, the former driver for Gary Condit who claims a thirty year friendship with the embattled congressman, said Wednesday that Condit once told him his friends would help him bury a body if needed.

Flammini offered the bizarre revelation during an exchange on Fox News Channel's "Hannity & Colmes":

SEAN HANNITY: Is he capable of being responsible for (Chandra Levy's murder)?

FLAMMINI: It would have to be an accident. But he's capable of covering it up if it was an accident.

HANNITY: What do you mean? That doesn't make sense, Vince. Would she slip and fall and hit or head? You know....

FLAMMINI: Or maybe, who knows? Maybe a sex drug? Maybe something like that. But Gary Condit would not murder anybody.

ALAN COLMES: But you're saying, Vince, you believe that he knows more than he's saying and that there's more to this story that he is aware of that he refuses to share with anybody.

FLAMMINI: That's true. That's exactly what I'm saying. He would say it no matter what.

COLMES: Did he ever talk to you about what he would do if he ever got caught with a woman? How to act in a situation like that?

FLAMMINI: No, he never - we never talked about that. The only thing he ever said to me that was strange was, he said something years ago. He said, "No matter what I do my friends - if something happened - if I killed somebody they'd help me bury the body."

COLMES: He said that to you?

FLAMMINI: He said that to me once, yeah.

COLMES: What made him say that? What was the context of that statement?

FLAMMINI: We were just talking. It was just conversation between two guys.

COLMES: And his friends are so.....

FLAMMINI: ...how much he wants you to be close to him and be able - but he did say them words to me. He says, ah - I says, "What about this and what about that?" And he says, "Oh, if I killed somebody she'd help me bury the body." And I said, "What a thing to say."

[Houmatt]

This dude be from the other side.

I do not see why I feel I have to waste bandwidth for my own defense, but, really, at bay, ignorance is not always bliss.

I am a dyed-in-the-wool conservative (read my posts if you think I am joking). Unlike other people in this thread, I tend to rely on facts than innuendo and speculation. And, from a factual basis, there is nothing connecting the disappearance of Chandra Levy to Gary Condit. Simple as that.

[Inspectorette]

does anybody else find it odd that two very grown adults nearing thirty have moved back into their parents' house?

Not you consider that they both quit their jobs as minions for Gray Davis.

I had to laugh when Chad was asked on Crossfire if it wasn't selfish of Gary to "put the family through" a campaign that is so torturous for all of them. Heck no, it isn't selfish of just Gary, it's selfish of the whole Condit family.

If Gary is out of his cushy Congressional seat, Carolyn is no longer "Mrs. Congressman" with all of the attendant perks. Chad and Cadee will only get jobs in the political arena now with Gary if he wins. He'll just add them to his staff.

[MeekOneGOP]

Move on, nothing to see here?. . ./sarcasm

Well, we'll see what comes out of Condidit's visit to the Grand Jury. . .he's pretty slick alright. I don't know what he's done if anything. But I don't trust the guy. I detest his arrogance and total disregard for Chandra, whom he had a "relationship" with (he used her) and all he cares about is HIS political career. He couldn't give a RAT'S A** less about her. Did you see his interview with Connie Chung? That was all about Gary. That was his re-election campaign kickoff for all intents and purposes, IMHO. . .

Yeah, Gary's the victim. I get it!

[Balata]

So he missed some votes. Other Congressmen do it as well. In fact, I wonder if there may have been anyone else who missed some votes that same day. Maybe they helped Condit? (If you cannot see how silly this sounds, I feel quite sorry for you.)

The votes Condidit missed were on a Thurs. immediately after Chandra's disapperance. These are the only votes Condidit had missed in years. That Thurs would have been a great time to "get rid of the body" or to do whatever else he had to do to clean up. No one else has suggested a connection with other Congressmen because they missed a vote, except you. You are the one that is using non-sequetor arguments and are not arguing from the facts. You are the one who looks silly here.

And has anyone, anyone at all, been able to place Condit at or near Levy's home at the time of her disappearance? Um, uh, NO!

Again, lets argue from the facts. The holes in Condidit's alibi timeline gives him ample opportunity to be at Chandra's apt or meet her somewhere. If he would fill in those blanks in the timeline it would go a long way to taking the heat off of himself.

I do not have anything against Fox. But when you devote most of your news time to speculation, including some hilarious innuendo ("Condit threw a garbage bag into a dumpster miles away from his home! Why? What was in it? (Psst! Do you think it may be because he is getting tired of having people constantly go through his garbage at home? We report. You decide.) ")

Again you are not arguing from the facts. The watchbox was not at his home, but in his office. All trash thrown out from the Congressmen's offices is disposed of in a secure way so there was no need for him to single this watchbox out and drive miles away to dispose of it. The watch from this watchbox was an expensive gift from a previous girlfriend who he was having an affair with. Now, if he had given this watch to Chandra and the watch was found on her if they found the body then it strengthens his connection with her.

See how silly it sounds when you're not arguing from the facts.

Chandra and her parents are who I feel sorry for.

[Balata]

I was wondering which Mikey: Lynch or Dayton.

Wouldn't it be nice to get both of these guys under oath?

[Balata]

Hi TaRaRa. It's good to see you again.

FReegards,

Balata

[Houmatt]

The votes Condidit missed were on a Thurs. immediately after Chandra's disapperance. These are the only votes Condidit had missed in years.

And? So what? During my senior year in high school, I missed ONE day. Does that mean I was out doing something criminal?

That Thurs would have been a great time to "get rid of the body" or to do whatever else he had to do to clean up.

Speculation. Not fact.

No one else has suggested a connection with other Congressmen because they missed a vote, except you.

I was merely illustrating how absurd your accusation is. What you are saying is: Condit missed a few votes, therefore, he is responsible for the disappearance of Chandra Levy. I do not care what you may want to call that, but I see it for what it is, a Grand Canyon-sized leap in logic.

Again, lets argue from the facts. The holes in Condidit's alibi timeline gives him ample opportunity to be at Chandra's apt or meet her somewhere.

FACT: A packed suitcase, among other items, were found in her apartment.

Again you are not arguing from the facts. The watchbox was not at his home, but in his office. All trash thrown out from the Congressmen's offices is disposed of in a secure way so there was no need for him to single this watchbox out and drive miles away to dispose of it. The watch from this watchbox was an expensive gift from a previous girlfriend who he was having an affair with.

And you just answered your own question.

My question is: Why have a journalist follow Condit in a way that suggests he was being kept under some kind of suveillance? Why make a big deal out of something that was nothing?

Now, if he had given this watch to Chandra and the watch was found on her if they found the body then it strengthens his connection with her.

And yet, it was not, making your point speculative, again, and moot.

You know, before you start accusing people of not arguing from facts I think you should give yourself a good, long look in the mirror, cowboy.

[TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!]

As well here. :-)

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Isn't the main reason Linda Tripp advised Monica to keep the stained dress was because Linda didn't want Monica to pull a "Chandra" and end up missing? Funny how none of the media personalities have mentioned that .

[nycgal]

she'd help me bury the body... I wonder who he meant by this. It seems, from the context, they were discussing a specific person.

I would guess they were discussing how Carolyn felt about Gary's numerous affairs. He may have thought she'd do anything to maintain her current lifestyle as a congressional wife.

[Balata]

And? So what? During my senior year in high school, I missed ONE day. Does that mean I was out doing something criminal?

I don't know, you tell me.

I was merely illustrating how absurd your accusation is. What you are saying is: Condit missed a few votes, therefore, he is responsible for the disappearance of Chandra Levy. I do not care what you may want to call that, but I see it for what it is, a Grand Canyon-sized leap in logic.

Don't put words in my mouth. That's not what I said at all. That's your non-sequetor logic speaking not mine. When talking about motive and opportunity for a crime this certainly speaks to the opportunity.

FACT: A packed suitcase, among other items, were found in her apartment.

Good, that's the first fact I've seen you post.

My question is: Why have a journalist follow Condit in a way that suggests he was being kept under some kind of suveillance?

I don't know. Maybe because he is acting like a guilty man.

Why make a big deal out of something that was nothing?

What nothing are you talking about. I gave you a list of six nothings (gaps in alibi,etc.) when taken in their totality are very significant. You on the other hand don't want to look at the whole picture.

You know, before you start accusing people of not arguing from facts I think you should give yourself a good, long look in the mirror, cowboy.

LOL! Priceless.

[Houmatt]

Don't put words in my mouth. That's not what I said at all.

But that is exactly what you are saying. You may not be saying it outright, but you are most definitely implying it.

I don't know. Maybe because he is acting like a guilty man.

Guilty of what? Being an adulterer? Being an insensitive dork? I hardly see that reason for a journalist to follow someone around with his car.

I gave you a list of six nothings (gaps in alibi,etc.) when taken in their totality are very significant.

Nothing plus nothing equals nothing, no matter what your government school math teacher told you.

You know, three posts later, you still have not presented anything even remotely resembling proof, much like the Fox News Channel on this issue. Instead, you have decided to use the tired tactic of calling people on things you are actually doing yourself. And I really loved your suggestion I was doing something criminal on the one day I was absent from class during my high school senior year.

I have gone toe-to-toe with people who can troll a whole lot better than you can. I knew I was dealing with an amateur the minute I saw your "pot calling the kettle black" BS. You really should have quit while you were behind, or at least admitted that I am correct, in that there is not anything that connects Gary Condit to the disappearance of Chandra Levy.

And that's a fact, too.

[at bay]

Try me on for size, hotshot. Even the police state they believe the perp was someone she knew. There is no evidence Chandra knew anyone well except her platonic friend and Condirt. She was very much a loner. She left with only her keys, Condirt's m.o. requirement. Those that know him intimately, AMS, Flamingo, both say he's capable of being involved in her disappearance, albeit with different perconditions from both of those. He said he had a Doctor's appointment but has never revealed what Doctor. Word is, Gar don't go to doctors. His various statements about when he was last in touch with her don't make sense. His statement to AMS "I may have to disappear for a while."

Guess what, in the formulation of probable cause, even hearsay is admissable. You are obviously not familiar with the term "totality of circumstances." Condirt got some Grand Jury 'splaining to do.

[Balata]

Your assertion that we can't tie Condidit to Chandra's disappearance does not mean he is innocent or that he is not in some way responsible. In other words it does not rule him out as the perpetrator of her, shall we say demise. All it means is no one has found the ‘stained blue dress' and they will keep looking inspite of your willingness to give Condidit a free pass by ingoring all the facts. They will do it not only for Chandra but also for her parents. Afterall, parents who have lost one of their offspring deserve to find the answer.

It is clear to anyone reading this thread that you want to ignore all the facts of this case and instead use faulty logic in your arguments. This obviously is the same thing you are doing to come to the inflated false conclusions about yourself. But, then again, I guess some people are easily impressed with themselves especially when they are drinking out of the trough of self grandizement.

Clearly you are following the same tried and true liberal tactic of not being able to argue the facts so then you start your sophomoric ranting along with name calling and personal attack. These tactics that you are displaying are insulting to the intelligence of all FReepers.

Obviously you now need to slither back to where you came from before you started vomiting all over this thread.

There is no question that you sir, are the troll!

[Balata]

Don't confuse him with the facts.
Here's his logic. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck then you must ignore the duck. LOL!

[bvw]

I have gone toe-to-toe with people who can troll a whole lot better than you can.

So your motive is bravado and arrogance.

I knew I was dealing with an amateur the minute ...

So you're a professional? Ri-iight.

[Balata]

Here's a question you can ponder. If you would like to take a stab at it and you do a good enough job then I'll tell you how Abbe Lowell answered it.

Mr. Condit, please pull the microphone in front of you, I have a question to ask.

Mr. Condit the Modesto Bee reported Chandra's parents called you on Sun May 6th at your Calif home to tell you they couldn't find Chandra. You were reported to have called the police on Mon May 7th while on your way to the airport.

Mr. Condit I contend if you didn't make phone calls during this time frame looking for Chandra then that implies you already knew her fate.

So my question Mr. Condit, did you make any phone calls during this time frame looking for Chandra? And secondly, will you provide your phone records, during this time frame, to the proper athorities so they can learn the truth about your actions and inactions?

You see Mr. Condit this will help tell a very important part of your story.

[Balata]

Bump to Condidit threads.

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One must take into account the fact that we are close to elections.