Apparently, you missed the rise and fall of your dream regime.
Posted on 01/29/2002 5:13:49 AM PST by simicyber
...no matter what the people of your community think! The Libertine Fascist Front has spoken!
The "people of your community" pay for their public schools, by taking money from unwilling participants at gunpoint. Perhaps this fact had escaped that bowl of grey mush you call a brain.
That may be true in some cases, but Yahoo ran an article last year reporting a study that showed a 15-fold increase in homosexual sex among women over the last decade. This is clearly a culturally influenced change in behavior, caused primarily by the explosion of pornography, in all likelyhood (more women are obviously going "bi" - BOING!!!). Now, there are homosexuals who seem to be that way by nature, but alot of it is cultural.
Quite simply, if it were private then how would any of us know about it? The fact is that it is no longer private. Being private doesn't serve the agenda. They are attempting to use the government to make homosexuality the legal equivalent of heterosexuality so as to force us to acknowledge some nonexistant moral equivalency between the two. They'll never do that, of course, but they will be able to use the force of government to further marginalize and isolate people of faith.
Imprisoning people for private acts in their own house is a clear violation of rights.
But if the destruction of the family, the church and society concerns you,
These are all worthy institutions. Its up to individuals who cherish these to preserve them(not the government) - that includes a majority of Americans.
if the premature death of men and women concerns you,
People who die becasue of their choice of lifestyle is sad, but really none of my concern.
if rampant disease (including more hepatitis than they have assigned letters to) concerns you,
This is disease caaused by a lifestyle. Don't engage in that behavior, and it will be of no concern.
if the molestation of young children and the deliberate sexual perversion of the young concerns you then homosexuality will concern you.
Molestation is a crime, whetehr its done by a queer or a straight person. Given that 95% or more of the population is not queer, an overwhelming NUMBER of molestations are done by straights. Don't confuse crimes with private activities.
Treatment of diseases by taxpayers (socialized medicine) is inherently wrong in itself, and should not be used as an excuse to commit another wrong (government control of the private sex lives of consenting adults).
And intentional transmission of disease (or transmission of disease by silent but knowing sexuality) should be criminally accountable (whether homosexuals or heterosexuals are the perpetrators).
So you are suggesting what?
That the private sexuality of consenting adults should be subject to government regulation, permission, and criminalization?
That's what it sounds like you're saying.
Are you seriously suggesting that all homosexuals are promiscuous, devil-worshipping, disease-infested, child-molesters?
Think.
If it was private, how is it that they can be prosecuted in the first place? Every criminal sodomy case that I've seen referenced on this board since I've been here has not resulted from a private act. Since you can't be referring to anything going on in the present, were you referring to something that someone else suggested?
Don't forget that the gay community can not reproduce therefore they must recruit, and they target the young, while they're still impressionable.
Rampant homosexuality has been at the core of almost every society that has collapsed from within.
It doesn't matter from a Christian or Darwinism point of view, either way it is a lose, lose situation. From a Christian point of view, we must remember that God love's the sinner, but hate's the sin
Apparently, you missed the rise and fall of your dream regime.
A nice post, but I disagree. The government is not the problem, homosexuals are the problem. If they want to pursue their sexual proclivities in silence, attending their homosexual clubs, steam baths, private parties, at home trysts, whatever....SO BE IT. They have always been able to do this.
It is their drive to get special attention, to get rights for being perverted, to numb down those revolted by homosexual activity until they deem it an acceptable practice, in other words, their drive to come OUT OF THE BEDROOM or OUT OF THE CLOSET and still be treated as others, that is the PROBLEM.
I don't WANT to know your sexual proclivities. I am certain you don't want to know mine. Homosexuals are citizens. They need no other rights than that. If they are upset that many of us find their sexual perversion offensive...tough. By keeping it quiet and out of our faces, they won't have to bear the consequence of their CHOICE to indulge in such crap.
No, it isn't.
The cost of keeping an AIDs patient alive is financialy crippling to the state, Insur. co., and any living relative. AIDs is just one of the many disease that come's with promiscuous homosexl. behavior.
Then stop paying those costs. Government socialism is the problem here. Not homosexuals per se. I don't want to pay the medical bills for drug abusers, homosexuals, promiscuous heterosexuals, or anyone else for that matter. The issue here is government socialism, not homosexuality.
Don't forget that the gay community can not reproduce therefore they must recruit, and they target the young, while they're still impressionable.
Then prosecute and imprison anyone who has sex with children. But these people are called "pedophiles", not homosexuals. Sadly heterosexual pedophiles exist in even greater numbers.
Rampant homosexuality has been at the core of almost every society that has collapsed from within.
Hmmmm... you must have some information I am unaware of.
It doesn't matter from a Christian or Darwinism point of view, either way it is a lose, lose situation. From a Christian point of view, we must remember that God love's the sinner, but hate's the sin.
But you seem to be quite comfortable hating both.
I really do not like having pornography flaunted publicly. I am libertarian (or libertine) enough to think that people should have some sort of access to pornography if they want it in private. But I definitely do not like it made public. I do not want children watching it, and I do not like it forced upon me.
I feel the same way about homosexuality.
I remember, in Amsterdam, standing in the checkout line of a grocery store, with my son, both of us unable to avoid seeing a prominently displayed magazine on the cover of which was a close-up of a woman performing fellatio. I was offended. (And I am not easily offended.) If people want to watch such things in private, fine! But I hated having it forced on me--especially when I was with my son!! I could have just as easily been with my daughter!!!
Your point is well taken.Once you arrive at the point that gratification is the desired end,how you get there becomes less and less important.What homosexuality brings into the equation is sado-masochism.
In privacy who cares what you do with the full consent of the other participants, those that do care have a problem and should go to a shrink.
But, the current homosexual movement isn't private anymore. I got one word for anybody that thinks it is: Stonewall. The rest of us in this country have a right to NOT see pale men wearing buttless chaps parading down the road, the rest of us in this country have a right to NOT have biker dykes handing little girls vagina shaped lollipops.
There are 3 rules to American society that a significant portion of the gay/ les movement have completely forgotten:
Don't scare the horses
Keep it away from my children
Keep it out of my church
Simple rules. Good rules. I'm not saying gays should stay in the closet, that's wrong. I am saying gays (and most of them do this BTW, it's the pride marchers that are a problem) should deal with their sexuality on the same level straight America does; that being you keep it behind closed doors where it belongs. There's no reason to be marching down the street wearing nothing but your sexual accoutrement. It's rude, it's wrong and one of these days somebody is going to decide they can't take this crap anymore and go after the "parade" with a baseball bat.
What we really need is for the "normal" members of the gay community to take over these events. I know there's got to be Log Cabin Republicans reading this: get out there in those marches wearing your 3 piece suits, show the world that gay doesn't have to mean freak.
Reply: It violates my Will(and the Will of the majority) Under modern theories of law "Will" is the basis of law see e.g. CC 22 "Law is an expression of will.
STATEMENT:"...provided it is practiced privately among consenting adults."
REPLY: A phrase loaded with assumptions e.g. tomorrow the legislature decrees an adult is a male ten years old. Unless the two practitioners are identical twin sodomites raised in a house and never going out they must meet somewhere outside the home. Their "courtship" in public is offensive. My 17 year old daughter has the "right" to be free from the sight of their courtship.
STATEMENT: " I think this obsession with controlling the private sexuality of consenting adults..."
REPLY:" I think this obsession with removing laws as to consenting adults is pathological.
STATEMENT:" I think this obsession with controlling the private sexuality of consenting adults..."
REPLY: This assumes the function of law is to control behavior. Where in the hell did you pick up this assumption. There was an older theory-no longer followed, that the function of law was social control. The law gives freedom. For the sodomite-as does any criminal-has choice. To do or not to do.
That is an outrage. Children have a right to their childhood, but apparently not in the Netherlands. Is this kind of thing typical in that country - this public display of hard pornography? If it is, do you know where I could find a nice place to live over there? Kidding, kidding...
Seriously, I agree with your points. Adult material is just that - for adults.
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