What I appreciate most about her is her down to earth approach to life's problems. And ... her ability to confront people with their own pre-conceived ideas which keep them from doing all God has called them to do.
My favorite thing she does is her robot! It runs around the stage and utters these words: what about me, what about me, what about me! She uses it to make people aware how selfish they are and all they think about is themselves instead of others.
God has truly blessed her with a special teaching ability. My bosses' husband, who is unsaved, even likes to listen to her tapes.
34 the women should keep silence in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be subordinate, as even the law says.
35 If there is anything they desire to know, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church.
I've watched her quite a bit; she's yet to say something against the Christian doctrine I have learned and read in the Word. I'd say, keep on watchin'! She's got the gift of teaching with practicality and humor. She knows the Word, backward and forward it's obvious, and I sense her sincerity, something lacking in most other t.v. preacher/teachers.
Joyce Meyer openly claims alliegance to the Word of Faith movement and to Word of Faith teachers, like Kenneth Copeland. She holds to a lot of cultic teachings with regards to generational spirits, etc.
Neither Kenneth Copeland's (nor their) teachings square with scripture on essential Christian doctrine. (Ditto for Kenneth Hagan, Rodney Howard Browne, Benny Hinn, et.al.)
Kenneth Copeland overtly mocks those who do not believe in his metaphysical concept of faith. Likewise, he mocks those who believe that Jesus atoned for our sins on the cross, and he makes it very clear that Jesus Christ did not atone for our sins on the cross...that he was a satanic being on the cross, that he had to go to hell to be *born again* in hell. He says satan conquered Jesus on the cross.
Copeland teaches that if he had the knowledge of the word of God that Jesus did, he could have redeemed mankind himself from their sins. So could we.
These are false teachers who teach false doctrine. They teach a different Jesus and a different gospel.
Who do you think God views as the worst of the worst? Abortionists? Homosexuals? Adulterers? Hitler? Pol Pot? False teachers? Who?
You may see who that is in the book of Jude:
Jude verses 12-13 says that the blackest darkness has been reserved _forever_ for false teachers.
That's because they misrepresent the Sovereign God and His gospel of grace, *alone / apart from* works. They mix in, and teach for doctrine, the commandments (works and traditions) of men.
In light of the book of Jude, why don't we see professing Christians out there stomping around protesting against the the above-described false teachers like they do against abortionists, homos, etc., huh?
I guess, unlike God, they just don't think believing or teaching false ideas about Him and his purposes is any "biggie".
Joyce Meyer is a popular Pentecostal preacher living outside of St. Louis, MO, who has been in fulltime ministry since 1980. She is a best-selling author in the Christian market, and her books cover everything from America’s Christian heritage to weight-loss. But she is perhaps best known from her radio and television program, Life in the Word, both of which are broadcast nationally and internationally.Meyer shares the platform from time to time with Word of Faith teachers like, for example, Kenneth Copeland, Jesse Duplantis, Benny Hinn, and T.D. Jakes. CRI is critical of and concerned with some of her practices and teachings...
CLICK HERE for the rest of the CRI statement on Joyce Meyer.
Is she a Dr. Gene Scott, however? Maybe...or is she a RObert Tilton...
About her preaching.....who cares what she says, she is in disobedience. God chose men as the spiritual head of the family. Her husband should be preaching, not her.
STATEMENT DM472
Joyce Meyer
Joyce Meyer is a popular Pentecostal preacher living outside of St. Louis, MO, who has been in fulltime ministry since 1980.1 She is a best-selling author in the Christian market,2 and her books cover everything from America’s Christian heritage to weight-loss.3 But she is perhaps best known from her radio and television program, Life in the Word, both of which are broadcast nationally and internationally.4
Meyer shares the platform from time to time with Word of Faith teachers like, for example, Kenneth Copeland, Jesse Duplantis, Benny Hinn, and T.D. Jakes.5 CRI is critical of and concerned with some of her practices and teachings.
In her 1991 booklet, The Most Important Decision You Will Ever Make, she teaches a hallmark doctrine of Faith theology, namely, that Christ had to suffer in hell to atone for our sins and be born again:
During that time He entered hell, where you and I deserved to go (legally) because of our sin….He paid the price there.…no plan was too extreme…Jesus paid on the cross and in hell….God rose up from His throne and said to demon powers tormenting the sinless Son of God, “Let Him go.” Then the resurrection power of Almighty God went through hell and filled Jesus….He was resurrected from the dead ¾ the first born-again man.6
Her assertions are not unlike those of leading Word of Faith proponent Kenneth Copeland, who also believes Christ’s death on the cross was not sufficient to atone for our sins, and that His work of redemption was completed by suffering in hell and being born again. According to Copeland,
When Jesus cried, “It is finished!” He was not speaking of the plan of redemption. There were still three days and nights to go through before He went to the throne….Jesus’ death on the cross was only the beginning of the complete work of redemption.7
[The] word of the living God went down into the pit of destruction and charged the spirit of Jesus with resurrection power! Suddenly His twisted, death-wracked spirit began to fill out and come back to life. He began to look like something the devil had never seen before. He was literally being reborn before the devil’s very eyes. He began to flex His spiritual muscles….Jesus was born again ¾ the first-born from the dead.8
According to a recently published interview with free-lance writer Ken Walker, however, Meyer contradictorily denies ever believing or teaching that Christ was born again in hell.9
Moreover, in her 1991 booklet, Meyer asserts that salvation is impossible without believing Jesus suffered in hell as the believer’s substitute. Meyer writes, “There is no hope of anyone going to heaven unless they believe this truth I am presenting. You cannot go to heaven unless you believe with all your heart that Jesus took your place in hell.”10
While historic Christianity has debated the issue of whether or not Jesus actually descended into hell (e.g., to proclaim the gospel, declare victory, etc. [1 Peter 3:18-19), no orthodox believer ever held to the belief that Christ suffered and atoned for our sins in hell, rather than on the cross.
Yet, Word of Faith teachers, including Joyce Meyer, teach the necessity of Jesus having to pay for our sins in hell, under the torment of Satan and his angels ¾ a teaching both unsubstantiated by and contrary to Scripture. The entirety of Christ’s atoning work (i.e., His suffering and death in our place) occurred on the cross (e.g., 1 Peter 2:24), ending with His proclamation, “It is finished” (John 19:30). The Christ of Faith theology literally had to become sin, taking on the nature of Satan while in hell, thereby needing to be born again in hell before His resurrection could occur.
OTHER QUESTIONABLE TEACHINGS
Meyer also advocates peculiar and unbiblical manifestations at church gatherings, and attributes them to the power of God.
She proclaims, you gotta come on out in the deep….Oh, I think that word’s anointed right now. Deeeep!!! Mmmmmm! One lady was in a conference recently in St. Louis, and she said “I am telling you, every time you said the word “deep” the fire of God hit me in the pit of my guts.” The lady, she kept falling out of her chair and being on the floor, you know? And she said later, “every time you said ‘deeeeep’ it was like I just couldn’t stay in my chair!”11
For a refutation of this and other unbiblical phenomena (e.g., being “slain in the Spirit”), we recommend Hank Hanegraaff’s book, Counterfeit Revival (B393/$20.00).
Although there is no biblical precedent, she makes the assertion that angels tell her what to preach:
Now spirits don’t have bodies, so we can’t see them. Okay? There probably is, I believe there is, and I certainly hope there is several angels up here this morning that are preaching with me. I believe that right before I speak some anointed statement to you, that one of them bends over and says in my ear what I’m supposed to say to you.12
She goes on to promote the superstitious belief that certain kinds of jewelry attract evil spirits:
There are many different signs and emblems that people wear as jewelry that are straight from the devil, and they absolutely do not know it, and I’m quite sure there are going to be people here today that probably even have some of these things in your possession. You may even be wearing one. And what they do is they draw evil spirits.13
In lieu of the biblical admonition to test everything by the objective Word of God (1 Thess. 5:21; 2 Tim. 3:16), Meyer further asserts that God would never allow her to fall into error.
Turning instead to her subjective feelings she says, I am going to tell you something right now. I no more believe that my God is going to let me stand around and believe a lie than I believe that I am going to turn green in the next two minutes. God is my source and He loves me and I am after God with my whole heart. And if I am accidentally, or any other way, getting into error, I am going to have a bell go off on the inside of me that is going to be so loud that not only am I going to hear it, but so is everybody else.14
Despite what Meyer’s feelings tell her, Scripture says otherwise. The apostle Peter is a constant reminder of our proclivity for committing error, and demonstrated, for example, by Christ’s rebuking of Peter for attempting to deter Him from His mission (Matt. 16:22-23; Mark 8:31-33), and later by being publicly rebuked by the apostle Paul for yielding to the pressure of the Judaizers (Gal. 2:11-21). Were it not possible for Meyer to fall into deception and error, Scripture’s repeated warnings (e.g., Matt. 24:4-5; Acts 20:28-31; Gal. 1:6-9; 2 Thess. 2:1-3; 2 Tim. 4:3-4; 2 Peter 2:1-3) would be meaningless.
Also problematic are some of Meyer’s beliefs regarding spiritual warfare. According to her, for instance, generational spirits supposedly torment families for generations with specific sins, and she even believes that a demon of lust torments her family. On one occasion she says,
I told you that there was a spirit of incest in my family bloodline….And the thing that I want you to understand today is when there’s a spirit like that in a bloodline, until some person believes on Jesus and takes the blood of Jesus and draws it across that natural bloodline, that devastation goes on for generations and generations….Well see, my father’s grandfather had problems and so his father had problems and so my dad had problems and so I had problems and so if I wouldn’t have stood and believed Jesus, my kids would have had problems and their kids would have had problems and so on and so on.15
Scripture, however, does not support the existence of a demon or spirit of lust, nor any demon of a particular sin. It is true that certain sins (e.g., alcoholism) are perpetuated and can affect families for generations (see Exod. 20:5; Num. 14:18), but these are the consequences of sin ¾ not generational spirits. James’ epistle is clear that we sin because of our own evil desires (v. 1:14). Demons cannot force us to sin; however, they can influence our behavior through temptation (e.g., Gen. 3:1-6). Nonetheless, we are ultimately held accountable for our actions (e.g., Ezek. 18:4, 20). If this were not so, we would have license to exclaim, “the Devil made me do it!”
Along similar lines, she believes that there are “mind-binding” spirits who keep multitudes of believers in a perpetual state of unbelief.16 Through deliverance, however, the attacks of mind-binding spirits will disappear. In her case, “when the spirits left, the ability to believe came rushing back.”17
Meyer overemphasizes and distorts the parameters in which God permits Satan and his angels to work, by attributing practically every negative experience to demonic activity. There is even a demon of accidents. For example, she recounts experiencing a close call while pulling into and out of a fast food restaurant parking lot. She shouts, “‘I rebuke the spirit of accidents, in the name of Jesus!’”18
Her false view of demonic activity propagates a paranoid and superstitious mindset, while obscuring the work of Christ, human accountability, and biblical views of spiritual warfare.
Because of Joyce Meyer’s adherence to a major tenet of Word of Faith theology and her subjective and unbiblical teachings concerning spiritual warfare, CRI cannot recommend her ministry.
CRI will continue to monitor Mrs. Meyer’s practice and teaching. We will periodically update this statement as necessary.
Weeellll...I can't add a thing to the case that Viva La Homeschool and Matchett PI et al. have made. Scripture is clear on the role of women (and men) in the church.
But what do I think? Battleax. I have a mental picture of her chasin' her man, frying pan in hand. She struts to and fro looking extremely self-satisfied and amused at her vapid remarks and insights. I'm only more put off by the apostasy of smilin' Bob Schuller.
BTW, I received the Lord at a Billy Graham crusade a good number of years ago, and his has been an extremely powerful ministry for decades. But in the last 10 years or so, he has shown signs of, er, "softening" with regard to sound doctrine. If he indeed claims, as George Jr. relates, that some people are "born Christian" and others are born again, he has pretty much thrown a wrench into the whole of the Bible and Christendom. Ie, if some folks are "born Christin", there would be no need for Jesus. The quote I cite was on another thread which was pulled. You know-"...Is Gdub a Christian", from Carol Hu Tex. I can't speak for the veracity of the quote as it was delivered in Bushease, but if it is true, Dr. Graham is vacillating wildly and needs prayer to "stand firm".
I like her it's what we need to get and then get over quickly. I have seen what people call the name it and clain it crowd and she does not seem to fit in with them.
It seems that in the CHristian church at present all we can seem to do is argue and bicker when we get our feelings hurt or our theology does not %100 match up with someone else's. How pathetic we are at times
Anyway
God Bless
Mel