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APA Symposium Debates Whether Pedophilia, Gender-Identity Disorder...Should Remain Mental Illnesses
NARTH ^ | June 12, 2003 | Linda Ames Nicolosi

Posted on 06/22/2004 10:22:56 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

On May 19th, 2003 in San Francisco, at a symposium hosted by the American Psychiatric Association, several long-recognized categories of mental illnesses were discussed for possible removal from the upcoming edition of the psychiatric manual of mental disorders.

Among the mental illnesses being debated in the symposium at the APA's annual convention were all the paraphilias--which include pedophilia, exhibitionism, fetishism, transvestism, voyeurism, and sadomasochism.

Also being debated was Gender-Identity Disorder, a condition in which a person feels persistent discomfort with his or her biological sex. Gay activists have long claimed that Gender-Identity Disorder should not be assumed to be abnormal when, they say, it is usually an expression of healthy prehomosexuality.

Dr. Robert Spitzer responded to the symposium as a discussant, urging that the paraphilias and gender-identity disorder be retained in the psychiatric manual.

(Excerpt) Read more at narth.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: apa; disorders; gaysneedhelp; genderiddisorder; homosexualagenda; mentalhealth; narth; paraphilias; pederasty; pedophilia; prisoners; psychiatry; psychology
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Dr. Spitzer commented at the symposium that it is a sign of how low the psychiatric community has sunk that theses paraphilias could possibly be recognized as signs of true human flourishing. As well, it was argued there at the symposium, by some, that if the same standard under which the APA "normalized" homosexuality were applied to these paraphilias then these paraphilias should also be deemed "normal."

And at least one of theses paraphilia's is being taught within California schools as 'ok', and we are even seeing one of these paraphilias being addressed, in a generally cute and funny way, within the movie "Shrek2"

If you want additional sources concerning this symposium, besides Narth, just Google: APA symposium Gender-Identity Disorder, or any of the other paraphilia's. Sure the APA generally condemned pedophilia, but the topic was still allowed to come up for discussion at the symposium, as well as were the other mental disorders.

1 posted on 06/22/2004 10:23:00 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Moral relativism at its worst. And does it get any more oxymoronic than 'healthy prehomosexuality?' I just puked in my mouth.


2 posted on 06/22/2004 10:27:12 AM PDT by ICX (Makin movies, makin songs, and fightin' round the world!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
American Psychiatric Association

You will never find a bigger collection of perverts than the Mental Health industry. The higher up the food chain, the sicker the practitioner. Psychiatrists, Psychologists, Therapists and those who work with them are proportionally more likely to be perverts and addicts.

3 posted on 06/22/2004 10:30:31 AM PDT by Zevonismymuse
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

In addition to the rewriting of histroy, the left strives to rewrite science and truth in general to adapt to its agenda. Reality is contrary to leftist thinking.


4 posted on 06/22/2004 10:30:48 AM PDT by Spok
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
The Marxist assault on tradition and the family continues.

These people are fanatics who want to destroy us.

5 posted on 06/22/2004 10:30:50 AM PDT by Reactionary
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Now THIS -is- a subject that is worthy of attention.

As I was trying to point out in your Shrek II thread - there are many serious issues on the subject matter that need attention. Picking at inconsequential jokes in "Shrek II" only serves to discredit legitimate concerns about things like this. I'm not saying this to be a jerk. I'm saying this cause I agree with the overall point being made, but taking it too far can lose a lot of necessary allies.

Qwinn


6 posted on 06/22/2004 10:31:26 AM PDT by Qwinn
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To: ICX
While of course not condoning ANY of these deviant behaviors, it would seem to me that by removing them from the category of mental ILLNESS that it would make it much easier for law enforcement to seek harsher sentences for such persons when the law is broken, since they may no longer hide behind their "Illness" from the law.......pedophilia comes to mind immediately.
7 posted on 06/22/2004 10:32:07 AM PDT by tristam
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

The *business* of psychiatry/psychology is more often than not operated by psychos and while some of what they do may be art, it certainly is *not* science. Why anyone pays attention to what these contemptible industries has to say, I don't know. Why professional con-men are still allowed to testify in court remains beyond me. What else can anyone say about a snake-oil industry founded on the ravings of a 19th century cokehead?


8 posted on 06/22/2004 10:36:33 AM PDT by agitator (...And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark)
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To: tristam

But see, you're an intelligent, rational person who sees this in an intelligent, rational way. These sick f***s gush over 'gender confusion' and pedophilia as strange and wonderful entities - not deviant, abhorrent behaviors that should be punished by wooden spoon castration.

They're not seeking to criminalize pedophilia - they're seeking to normalize it, just like they did with homosexuality.


9 posted on 06/22/2004 10:36:49 AM PDT by ICX (Makin movies, makin songs, and fightin' round the world!)
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To: tristam

Good point. Pedophilia shouldn't be considered a mental illness. It should be prosecuted along the lines of murder and dealt with as severely.


10 posted on 06/22/2004 10:36:51 AM PDT by Captain Rabbit (Kuck Ferry. Kuck Fofi.)
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To: Van Jenerette

...for class discussion.


11 posted on 06/22/2004 10:40:48 AM PDT by Van Jenerette (Our Republic - If we can Keep it!)
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To: Qwinn

I started with that Shrek2 movie. I added how paraphilia's such as transvesticism were included within the movie Shrek2, like pinnochio lying about wearing womens underwear, how that California schools are teaching that transvesticism is 'ok' and was going to cap it off with this.

When you look at the movie, California schools, and now this it brings it all together.


12 posted on 06/22/2004 11:00:49 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: ICX

I thought the same thing when I saw the words "healthy prehomosexuality?" Homosexuality is uniformly unhealthy. One who practices homosexuality will die years ahead of a heterosexual. On average, homosexuals live around 20-25 yeras less than heterosexuals. And they are far more likely to contract AIDS. The CDC says that 50% homosexual men will ultimately contract HIV. They are at a far higher risk of anal cancer, as compared to smokers. The list goes on and on.


13 posted on 06/22/2004 11:04:31 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Captain Rabbit

Ditto


14 posted on 06/22/2004 11:04:33 AM PDT by Former
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To: tristam

That's a common sense way to look at it. How things play out on the ground is a whole nother matter. Most states can keep sexual predators locked up after they've served prison time by showing society has a continued need to keep them from release, as they are "a continuing threat to society". "Normalize" deviancy & you take a tool away from the judicial system. The next step would be to try to decriminalize the activities. Notice how part of the push to change the standard involves saying there is insufficient proof of any harm to the children victimized. I've read elsewhere about that & it's been said society's negative attitude is a bigger problem for the children, than the actions of the perp.


15 posted on 06/22/2004 11:06:39 AM PDT by GoLightly
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To: Zevonismymuse

The staff in mental institutions are required to wear distinctive name-tags.


16 posted on 06/22/2004 11:09:10 AM PDT by Old Professer (Interests in common are commonly abused.)
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To: ICX

But, it appears that they are attempting to normalize transvesticism, Gender-Identity Disoreder, Sexual Sadism, etc first. I imagine that if and when(God help us)they get all the other paraphilias "normalized", like they did with homosexuality, that they will ultimately go for "normalizing" pedophilia/pederasty. Most likely they will save pedophilia/pederasty for last.


17 posted on 06/22/2004 11:09:56 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Captain Rabbit

The most creative way to deal with it that I've seen would be to put the guys pecker into a vice anchored in the middle of a small wooden building, give him a butcher knife & set the building on fire.


18 posted on 06/22/2004 11:10:31 AM PDT by GoLightly
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To: agitator

If it can't be stated in one sentence, it isn't understood.


19 posted on 06/22/2004 11:10:41 AM PDT by Old Professer (Interests in common are commonly abused.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
These are the same brilliant clowns that said homosexuality was not a mental illness. Liberalism is a mental illness. Shoving a pipe or any other foreign object up the Hershey highway is nothing but the highest form or perversion.

Romans 1:25-27 Who changed the truth of God into a lie and worshiped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed forever Amen. (26) For this cause God cave them up unto vile affections for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:(27) And likewise also the men leaving the natural use of the woman burned in their lust one toward another men with men working that which is unseemly and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

20 posted on 06/22/2004 11:23:34 AM PDT by Warrior Nurse (Black & white liberals practice intellectual apartheid when in comes to black conservatives!)
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