SINNERS IN THE HANDS OF AN ANGRY GOD

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[SLB]

Today more than ever the words of this sermon should hit home with all.

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[SLB]

I just read through some of your posts on this doctrine and that doctrine. Doctrine is from man - salvation is through Christ. Might want to concentrate there.

[drstevej]

***Doctrine is from man - salvation is through Christ.***

Tell that to Paul!

1 Tim 5:17 Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine.

1 Tim. 6:3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness

2 Tim 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; 2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.


Care to retract your statement in light of biblical teaching? Or shall I recommend someone to scratch your ears?

[ksen]

Doctrine is from man

Jesus thought doctrine was pretty important.

[Gamecock]

salvation is through Christ

Sounds like doctrine to me!

doc·trine Pronunciation: 'däk-tr&n Function: noun Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French & Latin; Middle French, from Latin doctrina, from doctor Date: 14th century
1 archaic : TEACHING, INSTRUCTION 2 a : something that is taught b : a principle or position or the body of principles in a branch of knowledge or system of belief : DOGMA

2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness

[xzins]

It's funny how some words get "blacklisted" in contemporary Christianity.

"Doctrine" is one of them. It's a perfectly good bible word.

Another is "religion." It's not uncommon to hear, "Christianity isn't a religion, it's a relationship." Then they'll talk about hating organized "religion."

But religion is a good old new testament word from James: "Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, to visit widows and orphans in their affliction and to keep oneself unspotted from the world."

I think what they're meaning to say is something about organized phoniness. With the word "doctrine," I think they mean "legalistic bondage."

SLB, is that what you're trying to say?

[LiteKeeper]

With the word "doctrine," I think they mean "legalistic bondage."

Or human contrivances, like, "we don't teach no doctrine, just 'Jesus Saves'" J.P. Moreland talks about the "Menace of Mindless Christianity." This sounds a little like that.

[xzins]

Yes. It could be a contrivance or euphemism with no real thought behind it....designed to provide an opening for conversation.

[RnMomof7]

I just read through some of your posts on this doctrine and that doctrine. Doctrine is from man - salvation is through Christ. Might want to concentrate there.

I do not believe that any non Catholic Christian or Protestant has said anything different.

The fact is that several different doctrinal positions are held by the non Catholic posters. But we are totally united on Who saves . Not a church or a doctrine , but Our Lord Jesus Christ.

On different times you may see us have doctrinal disagreements here.We will argue over the meaning of PAS or "works"

But even at our ugliest it is an in family debate

Is doctrine important? Doctrine does not save..but to have a correct doctrine is to have a correct view of God and salvation .Do I think that is important ..yes. Not to seek for a correct doctrine would show a disinterest in the understanding of God , his nature and His works

So we will disagree strongly on a single point . But I think we all understand that we are the family of God. We are brothers and sisters .

[RnMomof7]

You had a broken link so I add my 2 cents:>) 
 
Jhn 7:16  
Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.

  
 
Jhn 7:17  
If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or [whether] I speak of myself.


Seems that God has a doctrine and we are to know it

[RnMomof7]

Or human contrivances, like, "we don't teach no doctrine, just 'Jesus Saves'" J.P. Moreland talks about the "Menace of Mindless Christianity." This sounds a little like that.

And many of the mindless , that know no doctrine , have to ask themselves and wear shirts and bracelets asking " What would Jesus do"

[RnMomof7]

Or human contrivances, like, "we don't teach no doctrine, just 'Jesus Saves'" J.P. Moreland talks about the "Menace of Mindless Christianity." This sounds a little like that.

And many of the mindless , that know no doctrine , have to ask themselves and wear shirts and bracelets asking " What would Jesus do"

[Codie]

We "all" have access to the Bible.So how is it they don't know?

[newberger]

"Salvation is through Christ" is doctrine!

[Commander8]

Jonathan Edwards in the Christian Hall of Fame.
http://www.cantonbaptist.org/halloffame/edwards.htm

[RnMomof7]

We "all" have access to the Bible.So how is it they don't know?

How many read it codie?

[Codie]

How many are able to teach the correct understandinding? This is the problem I have with the Protestant church.

[SLB]

I think what they're meaning to say is something about organized phoniness. With the word "doctrine," I think they mean "legalistic bondage."

Thanks!

[xzins]

NO problem! That's what I thought you meant.