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Who Is the Israel of God in the New Covenant?
Prophecy Questions Blog ^ | March 18, 2024 | Charles Meek

Posted on 03/19/2024 5:45:28 PM PDT by grumpa

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See also: Were God’s Promises to Israel Forever?
1 posted on 03/19/2024 5:45:28 PM PDT by grumpa
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To: grumpa

Just to put a point with a pun on it:
It depends on what the meaning of IS-rael IS.


2 posted on 03/19/2024 5:48:23 PM PDT by Honest Nigerian
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To: grumpa

More blog pimping?? After you’ve been discredited.


3 posted on 03/19/2024 5:48:32 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: grumpa

JESUS CHRIST IS THE SAME, YESTERDAY, TODAY AND FOREVER. HE IS THE GOD OF ISRAEL.


4 posted on 03/19/2024 5:49:57 PM PDT by cowboyusa (AT THIS POINT, I'M WARMING TO AN AMERICAN PINOCHETE. )
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Galatians 3:29

“If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.”


5 posted on 03/19/2024 5:54:20 PM PDT by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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To: cowboyusa

Jehovah is the God of Israel. Jesus is His son.


6 posted on 03/19/2024 6:00:40 PM PDT by howlinhound (Tagline in the shop for repairs.)
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To: howlinhound

JESUS is JEHOVHA. THE TRINIRY IS ONE.


7 posted on 03/19/2024 6:05:18 PM PDT by cowboyusa (AT THIS POINT, I'M WARMING TO AN AMERICAN PINOCHETE. )
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To: Clutch Martin

And there you have it. Done. First He came to the Jews, then to the gentiles.


8 posted on 03/19/2024 6:06:55 PM PDT by vpintheak (Sometimes you’re the windshield, sometimes you’re the bug. )
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To: cowboyusa

The Trinity teaching did not appear until the Middle Ages. Jehovah, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are three separate entities.


9 posted on 03/19/2024 6:18:59 PM PDT by howlinhound (Tagline in the shop for repairs.)
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To: howlinhound

3 Persons, 1 GOD


10 posted on 03/19/2024 6:26:46 PM PDT by cowboyusa (AT THIS POINT, I'M WARMING TO AN AMERICAN PINOCHETE. )
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To: grumpa
Were God’s Promises to Israel Forever?

Yes.

Your link does not prove what you think it does.

11 posted on 03/19/2024 6:30:14 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: grumpa

This Charles Meek guy you push here sure doesnt seem trained in how to rightly divide the Word of Truth.

He comes across as unschooled in the basic fields of study one would learn in seminary.


12 posted on 03/19/2024 6:34:54 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: grumpa

The Israel of God consists of the children of Israel.

There you go.

The “Israel of God” is different from the family of God or the children of God or the Kingdom of God.


13 posted on 03/19/2024 6:38:07 PM PDT by Theo (FReeping since 1997 ... drain the swamp.)
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To: grumpa
Jesus Christ, the same yesterday, today and forever.

Who shall I say sent me? I AM.

14 posted on 03/19/2024 6:40:26 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Roses are red, Violets are blue, I love being on the government watch list, along with all of you.)
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To: grumpa

You leave out the most important verses.

Why would you leave out the verses that directly answer your thesis that God is finished with Israel?

Answer Romans 11:1-7

Is there no place for Israel then in the future and Heaven?

Answer: The Twelve tribes of Israel are shown in Rev 7.

God is not a man in that He changes His mind. (Numbers 23:19)

Satan has, from DAY ONE wanted to destroy Israel, and the Messiah (see Rev 12).

Why do you hate the Jews?


15 posted on 03/19/2024 6:40:35 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Thank you for your heartfelt comment. It’s easy to make glaring statements, but a lot harder to defend your views from God’s Word. But if you use the Bible as your source, I’m all ears. I provided numerous Bible passages as evidence; so far you have not.


16 posted on 03/19/2024 6:44:16 PM PDT by grumpa
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To: grumpa

The notion that Israel is separate from the church, and that Israel will re-emerge as pre-eminent among nations is not supported by the texts.
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Maybe so, but that will not stop the Jews in Israel from building a temple and doing sacrifices.

What will it gain them? If they are aware, they will realize that their performances and sacrifices still do not absolve their sin. And some will realize that the Jesus they crucified is the answer for them.

Is any of this prophesied? Yeah some is.


17 posted on 03/19/2024 6:47:37 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Running Rampant, and not endorsing nonsense)
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To: Scrambler Bob

About that re-built temple. 7 reasons why such is not biblical:

It seems to me that Christians too often are more interested in defending a position, rather than surrendering to what the Bible teaches. Let’s see what the Bible teaches about a rebuilt temple. Fear not to be challenged and changed.

1. Re-instituted temple sacrifices would be blasphemous to Jesus. The New Covenant began in the first century; there is no New New Covenant. SUPPORTING EVIDENCE: The writer of Hebrews said that Jesus’ sacrifice was ONCE FOR ALL (Hebrews 10:8-14).

2. All promises of restoration of Israel have come true in Messiah Jesus (Luke 1:54-55, 69-75; 2 Corinthians 1:20). Jesus replaced the temple as the focus of our faith. He is the cornerstone and believers are living stones. So, the physical temple has been replaced by a spiritual one. SUPPORTING EVIDENCE: Matthew 21:42; 27:40; Mark 14:58; John 2:19-21; Acts 4:11; 1 Corinthians 3:16; 6:19; 2 Corinthians 1:20; 6:16; Ephesians 2:19-22; 1 Peter 2:5; Revelation 21:22.

3. The Abomination of Desolation (Matthew 24:15) has already happened. SUPPORTING EVIDENCE: Jesus told his contemporaries that THEY would witness it. (“When YOU see the abomination of desolation. . . .”) “YOU” are the people to whom Jesus was speaking. It happened when the temple was defiled by the zealots and then by the Romans in the Jewish-Roman War of AD 66-70.

4. The Man of Lawlessness (2 Thessalonians 2:3) was already at work when the inspired Apostle Paul was writing. SUPPORTING EVIDENCE: Paul himself said so in 2 Thessalonians 2:7. While there are several first-century candidates, a likely suspect for the Man of Lawlessness was the zealot leader Eleazar ben Ananus, the ruthless instigator of the rebellion that caused the Romans to attack in AD 66―leading to the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple in AD 70. Eleazar sat in the temple and acted lawlessly in the very manner Paul described. Jewish historian Josephus described him as if defying God in his lawlessness, abominations, and atrocities.

5. There is not a 2,000-year gap between Daniel’s 69th and 70th week in Daniel 9:26-27. SUPPORTING EVIDENCE: There is no hint of a large gap in the text. Inserting one there is reading something into the text that simply isn’t there. Daniel’s 490-year prophecy ends in the first century with the Abomination of Desolation and the “end to sacrifice and offering.” That happened in AD 70 when the temple was destroyed (cf. Daniel 12:7, 11).

6. The Great Tribulation was not a worldwide event and it has already happened. SUPPORTING EVIDENCE: Jesus told his followers they could escape it by fleeing to the mountains (Matthew 24: 16). This would happen when Jerusalem was surrounded by armies in AD 66 (Luke 21:20-21). Ancient historian Eusebius wrote that the Christians followed Jesus’ advice and did in fact flee the city to avoid the coming devastation of the war.

7. The Antichrist was already at work when John was writing. SUPPORTING EVIDENCE: John said so (1 John 4:3). John also proclaimed that IT WAS THE LAST HOUR (1 John 2:18).


18 posted on 03/19/2024 6:51:57 PM PDT by grumpa
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What about all those unfulfilled promises made to Israel in the Old Testament? Do we just throw that book away?


19 posted on 03/19/2024 6:59:58 PM PDT by fso301
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—> I provided numerous Bible passages as evidence; so far you have not.

Sure you did, but you just quoted that Meek guy, who seems to not understand how to rightly divide the Scriptures.

Look around, you can do far better than his blog.


20 posted on 03/19/2024 7:02:06 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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